Re: Giving real names
By: Rampage to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jul 27 2019 07:43 am

here's something to think about... a BBS is like the operator's home.

No, it's not.

your experience is different from mine, then... since the early '80s when i first got into BBSes (and paying $1200US per month
in LD telco calls) they have always been operated like they were the operator's home... one has always been expected to act
accordingly... if you come to my house for a visit, hangout, BBQ, etc, i expect to be introduced to you by real name... whether
we continue to use that real name over the course of the visit or later visits is something else entirely...

Went to plenty of modemmer parties in the late '80's, early '90's where you got to put the face to many people's handles. Real names were secondary much of the time.

Guess it depends on your experiences, but I suspect some people's weren't like Fidonet parties (or, more normal non-modemmer people's parties). ;-)

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Re: Giving real names
By: Rampage to Nightfox on Sat Jul 27 2019 07:36 am

here's something to think about... a BBS is like the operator's home... you are visiting in their world... do you go to your neighbor's house for a BBS and not tell them your real name? same basic thing... but i've

in no way is it the same thing. especially to someone who doesnt know how it works behind the scenes. i have been probably the most user-targetted sysop that anybody can be. i do it all for the users even though i have just a few.


i dont feel like they are going into my house and sitting at my couch and putting their feet up.

one name is good as any other. what is in a name? would not a rose by any other name smell as sweet? i care about their intentions. if their intentions are fine and they post their real location, i'm cool with it.

i dont want someone who thinks they can use my system as a proxy to attack another server.

yeah but you have it backwards... BBSes came first by a decade or more... everything else is trying to duplicate or replace BBSes ;)

nobody is trying to copy bbses. people dont want bbses. they want something better and they have wanted something better since it has been available.
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Re: Giving real names
By: Rampage to MRO on Sat Jul 27 2019 07:47 am

here's something to think about... a BBS is like the operator's home... you are visiting in their world... do you go to your neighbor's house for a BBS and not tell them your real name? same basic thing... but i've also
been an operator for 30+ years so i have a much different outlook than folks who haven't been around as long...

you are not visiting their world. i've been running a bbs for 24 years and visiting them for longer.

you absolutely have to get rid of this mindset; it's part of what stopped bbses from adapting with the internet and www and part of what pushes regular people away.


your bbs is a card table you setup in a public flea market.

yeah but i cant go into your house via the bbs and stick my balls in your mashed potatos.

you can't do that in real life either... not if you expect to leave without serious injury...

be over at 6

i can just type my name and password in and act like a jerk in your msg areas and nobody really gets hurt.

that depends on the definition of hurt... words can and do hurt people every day...

most people today look to be hurt and outraged because they feel nothing. they are idiotic fools. if someone i dont know calls me a name i dont give one shit and neither should anybody else.
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Re: Giving real names
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Jul 27 2019 09:01 am

Might not be now, and might not have ever been to some, but to others is sure is. Back in the day when PCs cost a lot more than they do now, a lot of times the BBS was not the only thing that one used their PC for. Some people are/were paranoid about who might be logged on to their PC from remote, probably for similar reasons as one could be paranoid about using

these people were amatures pretending to be professionals. they used 'we' instead of i. 'we will work on that right away, thank you mr johnson!'

i dont care what they had going on in their head. they gave up their computer ot the public. it's not the same as bringing a friend in for coffee.

remote, probably for similar reasons as one could be paranoid about using their real names these days.

nobody has a right to your real name and information unless you are doing business $$$ with them.
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Re: Giving real names
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jul 27 2019 09:02 am

the only thing i want is a real location because i'm curious about where i'm >getting people from and a real email address so they can get their password on
their own if they forget it.

and a name that isnt 'fuck you'

Same here, pretty much. I am curious about where folks are from.

actually when i see stuff like that i laugh. i even had a guy register a domain , put up a website trashing me for shutting down bbstorrents and post it on my onliners wall.

everything he said was wrong, but it was so entertaining. i had to do a restore of my bbs so i lost that url.
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Re: Giving real names
By: Tiny to HusTler on Sat Jul 27 2019 01:34 pm

Quoting HusTler to Baguette <=-

I think you'll find most users in BBS land don't use real names. Your SySop may require a real name to create an account but that is not

I ask for a "Real Name" for fidonet. I don't care what you tell me it is,
if it looks like a holy high elf moderator won't netmail me I accept it.

Hell, I've used the same "Real Name" on BBSes since 1985.

Shawn

it's also acceptable for users to sign their real name at the bottom of each post.
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Re: Giving real names
By: Rampage to Nightfox on Sat Jul 27 2019 07:36 am

here's something to think about... a BBS is like the operator's home... you are visiting in their world... do you go to your neighbor's house for a BBS and not tell them your real name? same basic thing... but

I've heard this before and to me it's a stupid analogy. If you're inviting people into your house and something gets stolen or broken that's on YOU. You envited them in. You can't protect your "home" from invaders that's your own damn fault. It's none of your business what my real name is SysOp. Real names were never asked back in the day. If your selling something and I need a credit line that's something different. Now you're a "commercial" entity and now I get to know your Real name and address. I'll never understand why SysOps have such "Big Heads". There's nothing special about your BBS. Don't let anyone in to your house if they don't provide a real name. Nobody cares. They'll just use another BBS.
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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: DaiTengu to Vk3jed on Sun Jul 28 2019 01:54 pm

Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Vk3jed to DaiTengu on Sun Jul 28 2019 03:35 pm
Hey, to be fair, Peter Parker's web shooters aren't biological in nature, he built them.

I think that depends on which reboot you're watching... :)
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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: DaiTengu to Vk3jed on Sun Jul 28 2019 01:54 pm

Hey, to be fair, Peter Parker's web shooters aren't biological in nature, he built them.

What was the point of the spider bite then? I thought the spider bite gave him powers?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Ernest J Gainey Iii to DaiTengu on Sun Jul 28 2019 04:55 pm

Hey, to be fair, Peter Parker's web shooters aren't biological in
nature, he built them.

I think that depends on which reboot you're watching... :)

I think they've rebooted the Spiderman movies several times, haven't they? Sometimes I don't know why they reboot movies so often these days.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Sun Jul 28 2019 03:27 pm

Re: Re: Giving real names
By: DaiTengu to Vk3jed on Sun Jul 28 2019 01:54 pm

Hey, to be fair, Peter Parker's web shooters aren't biological in natur he built them.

What was the point of the spider bite then? I thought the spider bite gave powers?

Nightfox

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As far as I'm aware, in the most recent reboot it just makes him incredibly strong and gives him his spidey-sense.
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On 07-28-19 10:56, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

One time I was talking to a customer support person on the phone, and
when I told him my name (he asked), at first he didn't think my last
name was a real last name.. Yep, it's real, my last name is Russian
and I didn't make it up. I'm not sure why he jumped to the conclusion
that it was a made-up last name.

Yeah people have strange ideas, thugh in modern, multicultural Australia, there's such a diversity of names that anything's possible.


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On 07-28-19 13:54, DaiTengu wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Hey, to be fair, Peter Parker's web shooters aren't biological in
nature, he built them.

Haha the Peter Parker I know is more likely to be building antennas (he's a ham :) ).


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Nightfox wrote to Ernest J Gainey Iii <=-

I think they've rebooted the Spiderman movies several times,
haven't they? Sometimes I don't know why they reboot movies so
often these days.

Easy answer. The almighty Dollar.


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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sun Jul 28 2019 03:28 pm

Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Ernest J Gainey Iii to DaiTengu on Sun Jul 28 2019 04:55 pm

Hey, to be fair, Peter Parker's web shooters aren't biological in
nature, he built them.

I think that depends on which reboot you're watching... :)

I think they've rebooted the Spiderman movies several times, haven't they? Sometimes I don't know why they reboot movies so often these days.

i really dont like any of the reboots. i think spiderman is too weird and corney of a character to have on the big screen. like the fantastic four.

michael keaton was great in that one movie but he's michael keaton
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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Mon Jul 29 2019 08:59 am

One time I was talking to a customer support person on the phone,
and when I told him my name (he asked), at first he didn't think my
last name was a real last name.. Yep, it's real, my last name is
Russian and I didn't make it up. I'm not sure why he jumped to the
conclusion that it was a made-up last name.

Yeah people have strange ideas, thugh in modern, multicultural Australia, there's such a diversity of names that anything's possible.

I also feel like the area I live in is fairly multicultural, which made it feel a little strange. But there are parts of the US that aren't very multicultural..

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 2019 06:52 pm

I think they've rebooted the Spiderman movies several times,
haven't they? Sometimes I don't know why they reboot movies so
often these days.

Easy answer. The almighty Dollar.

Yeah, but why the need to reboot Spiderman rather than create sequels and continue the story?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 2019 10:29 pm

i really dont like any of the reboots. i think spiderman is too weird and corney of a character to have on the big screen. like the fantastic four.

michael keaton was great in that one movie but he's michael keaton

I was never really into superhero movies all that much anyway, but I do like some of them. And I agree, Michael Keaton was great as Batman.

There are a lot of superhero movies out these days, and I'm not terribly interested in seeing any of them.. But I've watched a lot of them because friends & family like them. They're entertaining, it's just not one of my favorite genres.

Nightfox

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On 07-29-19 09:29, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I also feel like the area I live in is fairly multicultural, which made
it feel a little strange. But there are parts of the US that aren't
very multicultural..

Still the same here, though that's changing. Many are realising the benefits of migration to more rural areas - migrants and existing residents alike.


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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jul 29 2019 09:32 am

Re: Re: Giving real names
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 2019 10:29 pm

i really dont like any of the reboots. i think spiderman is too weird and corney of a character to have on the big screen. like the fantastic four.

michael keaton was great in that one movie but he's michael keaton

I was never really into superhero movies all that much anyway, but I do like some of them. And I agree, Michael Keaton was great as Batman.

we were talking about spiderman. he's the vulture in the spiderman movie
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Re: Re: Giving real names
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jul 29 2019 04:36 pm

I was never really into superhero movies all that much anyway, but I
do like some of them. And I agree, Michael Keaton was great as
Batman.

we were talking about spiderman. he's the vulture in the spiderman movie

Ah, I actually haven't seen the newest spiderman movies.

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

I think they've rebooted the Spiderman movies several times,
haven't they? Sometimes I don't know why they reboot movies so
often these days.

Easy answer. The almighty Dollar.

Yeah, but why the need to reboot Spiderman rather than create
sequels and continue the story?

I'd guess that he runs on Windows instead of *nix... :-)

But seriously, I don't really know other than perhaps the younger generation(s) today don't have the patience for a prolonged series
of sequels (like Star Trek, Star Wars, etc) and want something
"new" and "fresh". Which of course leads right back around to The
Almighty Dollar.


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Re: Giving real names
By: Baguette to Nightfox on Fri Jul 26 2019 06:21 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 26 2019 02:35 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Apam on Fri Jul 26 2019 12:39 pm

Me personally, I don't particularly care, but I rather real looking
names at least, if someone signs in as "Big Dong" I'm probably not
going to be impressed.

I'll make sure to use Holden McGroin from now on.

There's also the name Pat McGroin. I might also consider Harry Nutzzak, I'm sure that wouldn't fly.

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I'm surprised the obvious one hasn't been pointed out yet: Mike Hunt

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This is an interesting thread.
Thanks,

-Mike Ahgestiffe


Thanks,
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Re: Giving real names
By: Digital Man to Baguette on Fri Jul 26 2019 03:46 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: Baguette to Nightfox on Fri Jul 26 2019 06:21 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 26 2019 02:35 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Apam on Fri Jul 26 2019 12:39 pm

Me personally, I don't particularly care, but I rather real look
names at least, if someone signs in as "Big Dong" I'm probably n
going to be impressed.

I'll make sure to use Holden McGroin from now on.

There's also the name Pat McGroin. I might also consider Harry Nutzza but I'm sure that wouldn't fly.

I'm surprised the obvious one hasn't been pointed out yet: Mike Hunt

Or Rick Mi Bars (he's asian).

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Did you hear the one about the two gay irishmen?
Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick?

Thanks,

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Re: Giving real names
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Jul 26 2019 10:39 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 26 2019 02:35 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Apam on Fri Jul 26 2019 12:39 pm

Me personally, I don't particularly care, but I rather real looking
names at least, if someone signs in as "Big Dong" I'm probably not
going to be impressed.

I'll make sure to use Holden McGroin from now on.

There's also the name Pat McGroin. I might also consider Harry Nutzzak, I'm sure that wouldn't fly.

Nightfox

you guys are passing up phil mcgracken like you never heard of it before

I don't know how I missed Pat McGroin and Holden McGroin all these years.
I am sitting at my cube laughing out loud and people are asking me what's so funny.

I also like "Barry McCockener"


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Re: Giving real names
By: Zombie Mambo to Baguette on Tue Jul 30 2019 10:31 am

This is an interesting thread.
Thanks,

-Mike Ahgestiffe

:P

There's also the jokes about the books and their authors..
- Under The Bleachers, by Seymour Butts
- Under The Bridge, by I.P. Freely
- Over The Cliff, by Hugo Furst
- A Pastry Recipe Book, by E. Claire

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Re: Giving real names
By: Zombie Mambo to Digital Man on Tue Jul 30 2019 10:32 am

Did you hear the one about the two gay irishmen?
Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick?

oh god i havent heard that one in like 20 years
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Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jul 30 2019 09:38 am

There's also the jokes about the books and their authors..
- Under The Bleachers, by Seymour Butts
- Under The Bridge, by I.P. Freely
- Over The Cliff, by Hugo Furst
- A Pastry Recipe Book, by E. Claire

"Race to the bathroom" by Willie Makeit, Published by Betty Wont, Illustrated by Doris Locked.

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Re: Giving real names
By: Dr. What to Nightfox on Wed Jul 31 2019 19:18:02

Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jul 30 2019 09:38 am

There's also the jokes about the books and their authors..
- Under The Bleachers, by Seymour Butts
- Under The Bridge, by I.P. Freely
- Over The Cliff, by Hugo Furst
- A Pastry Recipe Book, by E. Claire

"Race to the bathroom" by Willie Makeit, Published by Betty Wont, Illustrated by Doris Locked.

Rusty Bed Springs, by I. P. Nightly

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Re: Giving real names
By: Dr. What to Nightfox on Wed Jul 31 2019 07:18 pm

"Race to the bathroom" by Willie Makeit, Published by Betty Wont, Illustrated by Doris Locked.

When you really need to go to the bathroom, you're Russian to get there. When you're in there, European. When you're done, you're Finnish.

Nightfox

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Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jul 30 2019 09:38 am

Re: Giving real names
By: Zombie Mambo to Baguette on Tue Jul 30 2019 10:31 am

This is an interesting thread.
Thanks,

-Mike Ahgestiffe

:P

There's also the jokes about the books and their authors..
- Under The Bleachers, by Seymour Butts
- Under The Bridge, by I.P. Freely
- Over The Cliff, by Hugo Furst
- A Pastry Recipe Book, by E. Claire

Nightfox

How could we forget
"Tracks in the Snow" by Juan Hung Lo

Where I grew up, (midwest) I believe our author for Under the Bleachers was I. C. Butts

Seymour Butts is excellent tho.

You will enjoy this one, there's actually a guy at my work whose real name is Herb Packer.


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Re: Giving real names
By: MRO to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jul 30 2019 03:59 pm

Re: Giving real names
By: Zombie Mambo to Digital Man on Tue Jul 30 2019 10:32 am

Did you hear the one about the two gay irishmen?
Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick?

oh god i havent heard that one in like 20 years

I'm irish and whenever anyone tries to tell that joke any self-respecting Irishman answers "There's no such thing as gay Irishmen".


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Re: Giving real names
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Thu Aug 01 2019 01:30 pm

You will enjoy this one, there's actually a guy at my work whose real name is Herb Packer.

I knew someone who went by Willie Johnson..

Nightfox

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@VIA: VERT/AMIGAC
Re: Giving real names
By: Dr. What to Nightfox on Wed Jul 31 2019 19:18:02

Re: Giving real names
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jul 30 2019 09:38 am

There's also the jokes about the books and their authors..
- Under The Bleachers, by Seymour Butts
- Under The Bridge, by I.P. Freely
- Over The Cliff, by Hugo Furst
- A Pastry Recipe Book, by E. Claire

"Race to the bathroom" by Willie Makeit, Published by Betty Wont, Illustrated by Doris Locked.

Rusty Bed Springs, by I. P. Nightly

Cat's Revenge by Claude Balls.


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