• Hello World!

    From Feoh@VERT/DECAFBAD to Ewing on Wednesday, December 20, 2023 09:34:07
    Re: Hello World!
    By: Ewing to MRO on Thu Jul 20 2023 10:50 am

    Welcome to my BBS Dizzy, and hello world! to everyone else!


    There's a Youtube channel I've been super enjoying lately called "Usagi Electric".

    This guy is AMAZING, he rebuilds and reverse engineers old computers and electronics, and one of the more amusing quirks of his, due to a bug in (I THINK!) his work trying to reverse engineer a Wang word processor he'd found, was that in trying to write the assembly language to print "Hello, World!" he ended up instead printing "Hellorld" and so from then on any time he wants to do a test print it's "Hellorld" instead :)

    Great stuff. Lately he's been, among other things, resuscitating a Bendix vacuum tube computer from the 1950s.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to FEOH on Wednesday, December 20, 2023 09:38:00
    Great stuff. Lately he's been, among other things, resuscitating a Bendix vacuu
    tube computer from the 1950s.

    That does sound interesting.


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  • From Vela025@VERT/AMSTRAD to Feoh on Thursday, December 21, 2023 09:18:39
    Re: Hello World!
    By: Feoh to Ewing on Wed Dec 20 2023 09:34 am

    There's a Youtube channel I've been super enjoying lately called "Usagi Electric".

    Great stuff. Lately he's been, among other things, resuscitating a Bendix vacuum tube computer from the 1950s.
    Yeah I'm a huge fan of this guy and really looking forward to seeing more of the Bendix. I've quite liked the videos he did on the Ti99/4, I really felt for him when he was troubleshooitng the Ti99! He's pretty good at explaining stuff, like the Vacuum tube computer he's been making...normally that kind of stuff would got straight over my head, but I manage to follow along...mostly.

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  • From Shadow42085@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, December 26, 2023 06:26:53
    Re: Hello World!
    By: Dumas Walker to FEOH on Wed Dec 20 2023 09:38 am

    Great stuff. Lately he's been, among other things, resuscitating a Bendix vacuu
    tube computer from the 1950s.

    That does sound interesting.


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    I might look him up there are alot of other retro computer guys I watch and they have good videos here are a few that I watch
    Adrian's Digital Basement I & II - retro computer repairs very indepth
    Tech Tagents - same as Adrian but still fun to watch
    Action Retro Note: Shenniagans warning

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to SHADOW42085 on Tuesday, December 26, 2023 14:00:00
    Adrian's Digital Basement I & II - retro computer repairs very indepth
    Tech Tagents - same as Adrian but still fun to watch
    Action Retro Note: Shenniagans warning

    LOL, I am forwarned. ;)


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  • From Aurelius@VERT/TECHRONO to Gamgee on Saturday, December 30, 2023 05:18:48
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jul 29 2023 09:37 pm

    Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?

    The only correct answer is Siss.
    Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF.
    Of course, I'm likely to start a flamewar! Guess I should be careful :P

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Aurelius on Saturday, December 30, 2023 07:55:00
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    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jul 29 2023 09:37 pm

    Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?

    The only correct answer is Siss.

    Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is
    Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get
    Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF. Of course, I'm
    likely to start a flamewar! Guess I should be careful :P

    Yes, there really is no good argument in favor of "Sise-op". It's
    "siss-op" for sure.

    I'm with you on the GIF one too, I've always pronounced it as GIF (with
    a hard G sound) rather than "JIF". But I have a vague memory of
    somebody who matters (the author of the GIF format, perhaps?) saying it
    was pronounced "JIF". And, the "G" can be pronounced that way (as in
    the animal "Giraffe" for example). However, I do and will continue to pronounce it with a hard G. ;-)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Aurelius on Saturday, December 30, 2023 08:37:32
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

    Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF.

    When I first started BBSing and I saw "sysop" and didn't know what it meant, I thought it was "sigh-sop" because of the Y.. But then I learned it's short for "system operator" and its proper pronunciation.

    As far as GIF, most of the people I've known pronounce it like "JIF", so that's just how I've pronounced it. And I've heard the creator of the GIF format says that's the way to pronounce it.

    I don't know why some people get so upset about how GIF is pronounced.. English tends to be an inconsistent language. For instance, why is the word "vineyard" typically pronounced "vin-yeerd" rather than like the two separate words "vine" "yard"?

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Aurelius on Saturday, December 30, 2023 15:24:22
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

    The only correct answer is Siss.
    Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF.

    You're right on sysop, but wrong on GIF. The guy who invented GIF says it's pronounced "jiff", so jiff it is. <shrug>
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sunday, December 31, 2023 12:12:02
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Nightfox to Aurelius on Sat Dec 30 2023 08:37 am

    When I first started BBSing and I saw "sysop" and didn't know what it meant, I thought it was "sigh-sop" because of the Y.. But then I learned it's short for "system operator" and its proper pronunciation.


    it's always been sis-op around my neck of the woods

    i dont say it like 'SYESTEMS operator', i say it like 'sistems operator'.

    As far as GIF, most of the people I've known pronounce it like "JIF", so that's just how I've pronounced it. And I've heard the creator of the GIF format says that's the way to pronounce it.

    i prefer gif pronounced like you got a gift.


    I don't know why some people get so upset about how GIF is pronounced.. English tends to be an inconsistent language. For instance, why is the word

    the creator of the gif was super pissed off about it. he also wanted
    fucking royalties for usage of the format.

    "vineyard" typically pronounced "vin-yeerd" rather than like the two separate words "vine" "yard"?

    Why do they call it Ovaltine? The mug is round, the jar is round.. they should call it Roundtine.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sunday, December 31, 2023 12:26:03
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Digital Man to Aurelius on Sat Dec 30 2023 03:24 pm

    Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF.

    You're right on sysop, but wrong on GIF. The guy who invented GIF says it's pronounced "jiff", so jiff it is. <shrug>

    looks like covid got him last year.

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  • From Vela025@VERT/AMSTRAD to Feoh on Sunday, December 31, 2023 19:14:01
    Re: Hello World!
    By: Feoh to Ewing on Wed Dec 20 2023 09:34 am

    There's a Youtube channel I've been super enjoying lately called "Usagi Electric".

    Did you see he's turned on the Bendix?!

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Digital Man on Sunday, December 31, 2023 18:27:33
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Digital Man to Aurelius on Sat Dec 30 2023 03:24 pm

    You're right on sysop, but wrong on GIF. The guy who invented GIF says it's pronounced "jiff", so jiff it is. <shrug> --

    Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

    The GIF guy was wrong about how it's pronnounced. :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Sunday, December 31, 2023 18:20:40
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm

    Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

    I don't think thta means the inventors were 'wrong' about their inventions though. It's just that the invention was intended for one thing and people started using it for something else. But I don't think you can argue with the inventor/creator about what they intended.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Monday, January 01, 2024 03:44:23
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm

    Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

    The GIF guy was wrong about how it's pronnounced. :)


    yeah he was wrong from the start. 'graphics' = hard G

    maybe he had a peanutbutter obsession.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, January 01, 2024 03:49:32
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:20 pm

    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm

    Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

    I don't think thta means the inventors were 'wrong' about their inventions though. It's just that the invention was intended for one thing and people started using it for something else. But I don't think you can argue with the inventor/creator about what they intended.


    well people are wrong and people do stupid things.

    it was stupid to expect people to pronounce gif as JIF. especially when there was a jif format a few years later. why didn't he choose jif? oh because it stands for graphics? graphics is hard G.

    just like the lady that named her kid marijuana pepsi, he is wrong.
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Aurelius on Monday, January 01, 2024 09:35:30
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

    Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?

    The only correct answer is Siss.
    Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF.
    Of course, I'm likely to start a flamewar! Guess I should be careful :P

    To be contrarian, I believe it to be Siss-op and Jif! I have reasons for both and I'm ready to fight to the death!

    Happy New Year!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, January 01, 2024 11:53:25
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:49 am

    it was stupid to expect people to pronounce gif as JIF. especially when there was a jif format a few years later. why didn't he choose jif? oh because it stands for graphics? graphics is hard G.

    So you're saying the jif format came LATER, but it's GIF that shouldn't have been pronounced that way first? "jif" is how I've always heard most people pronounce it. And I actually wasn't aware of the jif format until you mentioned it recently.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 02, 2024 03:11:42
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jan 01 2024 11:53 am

    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:49 am

    it was stupid to expect people to pronounce gif as JIF. especially when there was a jif format a few years later. why didn't he choose jif? oh because it stands for graphics? graphics is hard G.

    So you're saying the jif format came LATER, but it's GIF that shouldn't have been pronounced that way first? "jif" is how I've always heard most people pronounce it. And I actually wasn't aware of the jif format until you mentioned it recently.

    i've always heard people pronounce it GIF like GIFT. NEVER jif
    the G in gif is graphics which is hard G.

    since a few years later there is Jif graphics format and he was STILL trying to get people to say gif and jif just makes him even more ridiculious.

    now we're stupid for still talking about it.
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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Aurelius on Tuesday, January 02, 2024 03:25:31
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

    those... It's SysOp and GIF.

    Supposedly the creator of the format says it's pronounced "JIF". He's obviously a nut bar.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Phigan on Tuesday, January 02, 2024 06:45:02
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Phigan to Aurelius on Tue Jan 02 2024 03:25 am

    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

    those... It's SysOp and GIF.

    Supposedly the creator of the format says it's pronounced "JIF". He's obviously a nut bar.

    he probably had a peanutbutter fetish. i feel sorry for his dog.

    according to wikipedia, the source of all knowledge, he had a stroke in his mid 50s and stopped working and he died in 2022 of covid.

    https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/24311617/stephen-e-wilhite/milford/oh io/megie-funeral-home

    http://tinyurl.com/pronouncedhardG

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Tuesday, January 02, 2024 20:18:30
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:44 am

    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm

    Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

    The GIF guy was wrong about how it's pronnounced. :)


    yeah he was wrong from the start. 'graphics' = hard G

    Acronyms are pronounced by convention, not based on the pronounciation of the words that inspire the initialism. For example, CIM (Common Information Model) is pronounced "sim" not "kim".

    The inventors pronounced GIF as "jiff", then in my book, "jiff" is right. No debate about it.

    The Qt inventors apparently switched the pronounciation from "cue-tee" to "cute" at some point. So I'm trying (hard) to follow suit.

    They guys that create the game make the rules. <shrug>
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to MRO on Tuesday, January 02, 2024 21:14:00
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:44 am

    maybe he had a peanutbutter obsession.

    I always thought the choosy moms were hot.

    https://i.imgur.com/wRk2Qu0.jpeg



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nopants on Wednesday, January 03, 2024 07:23:00
    Nopants wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:44 am

    maybe he had a peanutbutter obsession.

    I always thought the choosy moms were hot.

    https://i.imgur.com/wRk2Qu0.jpeg

    Love it! Perfect! Hahahahaha



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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Digital Man on Thursday, January 04, 2024 04:17:09
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Jan 02 2024 03:18 pm

    The inventors pronounced GIF as "jiff", then in my book, "jiff" is right. No debate about it.

    The Qt inventors apparently switched the pronounciation from "cue-tee" to "cute" at some point. So I'm trying (hard) to follow suit.

    They guys that create the game make the rules. <shrug>

    I'm pretty sure I pronounce Synchronet right but if you want to have some strange way to say it just let us know :).

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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to The Lizard Master on Thursday, January 04, 2024 14:00:28
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: The Lizard Master to Digital Man on Thu Jan 04 2024 04:17 am

    They guys that create the game make the rules. <shrug>

    I'm pretty sure I pronounce Synchronet right but if you want to have some strange way to say it just let us know :).

    Pretty sure once I heard him pronounce it "SIGN-KRIZIZZLE-FOSHIZZLE-MAZIZZLE". I've been tryin to go with that one.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to The Lizard Master on Friday, January 05, 2024 06:23:00
    The Lizard Master wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I'm pretty sure I pronounce Synchronet right but if you want to have
    some strange way to say it just let us know :).

    "Synchronet is Synchro-NEAT!"

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, January 05, 2024 10:00:07
    Re: Re: Hello World!
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 05 2024 06:23 am

    The Lizard Master wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I'm pretty sure I pronounce Synchronet right but if you want to have some strange way to say it just let us know :).

    "Synchronet is Synchro-NEAT!"


    that is about as gay as that blimp
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