• BBS community improve

    From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to RAVNE on Sunday, May 26, 2024 06:11:00
    Quoting Ravne to Kk4qbn <=-

    You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics
    can't be a problem, but I do think (rough guesstimate) 4/5 times this
    kind of behavior comes from straight white men. -!-

    You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with
    mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.

    Shawn
    P.S - Since you only care about genders and such and nothing else, I'll
    await breathless for you to call me a straight white man, or something else
    you find offensive.

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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to Tiny on Sunday, May 26, 2024 08:17:24
    Re: BBS community improve
    By: Tiny to RAVNE on Sun May 26 2024 06:11 am

    You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.

    I get it, I came on way too strong & was extremely clumsy with my delivery. Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong. I have some autistic tendencies & that seems to make it difficult for me to see where the line is before I cross it.
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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Ravne on Sunday, May 26, 2024 14:59:22
    Re: BBS community improve
    By: Ravne to Tiny on Sun May 26 2024 08:17:24

    You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with
    mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.

    I get it, I came on way too strong & was extremely clumsy with my delivery. Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong. I have some autistic tendencies & that seems to make it difficult for me to see where the line is before I cross it.

    "Autistic Tendencies" wow...
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Sunday, May 26, 2024 17:36:56
    Re: BBS community improve
    By: Tiny to RAVNE on Sun May 26 2024 06:11 am

    Quoting Ravne to Kk4qbn <=-

    You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics can't be a problem, but I do think (rough guesstimate) 4/5 times this kind of behavior comes from straight white men. -!-

    You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with
    mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.


    Ravne is the kind of closet bigot that thinks black people are stupid and don't carry identification. ....but ONLINE they/them will stand up for their rights because of white guilt.

    probably doesn't have one black friend and crosses the street to the other side when they encounter a person of color when walking.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ravne on Sunday, May 26, 2024 17:37:20
    Re: BBS community improve
    By: Ravne to Tiny on Sun May 26 2024 08:17 am

    Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong. I have some autistic tendencies & that seems to make it difficult for me to see where the line is before I cross it.

    wtf THAT IS MY WORD. don't trigger mrobot.
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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to MRO on Sunday, May 26, 2024 20:50:31
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: MRO to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 07:00 pm

    you dont have the brainpower or the testicular fortitude to troll me
    must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.

    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ravne on Monday, May 27, 2024 00:00:21
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to MRO on Sun May 26 2024 08:50 pm

    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: MRO to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 07:00 pm

    you dont have the brainpower or the testicular fortitude to troll me must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.

    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.

    who is a lesbian? me or you?

    sorry dude, not interested in arguing with you. You're boring and stupid. you're like CNN personified.
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to RAVNE on Monday, May 27, 2024 06:08:00
    Quoting Ravne to Tiny <=-

    I get it, I came on way too strong & was extremely clumsy with my delivery. Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to
    admit when I'm wrong.

    Apreciate that. Thank-you.

    Shawn

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ravne on Monday, May 27, 2024 13:54:50
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to MRO on Sat May 25 2024 10:39 am

    How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I

    That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.

    If you posted something similar about a different demographic group it would look bigot as heck to me.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to RAVNE on Monday, May 27, 2024 12:45:00
    You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics can't be a problem, but I do think (rough guesstimate) 4/5 times this kind of behavior comes from straight white men.

    There are a lot of straight women, regardless of color, who will get pretty fired up about groomers and paedofiles... especially if these women are
    also mothers. Only the ones that are pretty far left won't, at least not publicly.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TINY on Monday, May 27, 2024 13:05:00
    P.S - Since you only care about genders and such and nothing else, I'll
    await breathless for you to call me a straight white man, or something else you find offensive.

    Maybe someone should create a bot that counts how often Ravne uses that
    term? :D


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ravne on Monday, May 27, 2024 07:46:00
    Ravne wrote to MRO <=-

    must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.

    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.

    I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in
    their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, May 27, 2024 17:47:32
    Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to TINY on Mon May 27 2024 01:05 pm

    P.S - Since you only care about genders and such and nothing else, I'll await breathless for you to call me a straight white man, or something else you find offensive.

    Maybe someone should create a bot that counts how often Ravne uses that term? :D

    I think we should create a rule that bans bots to the bbs ad sub and one posting per week.
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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 27, 2024 18:22:59
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 07:46 am

    must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.
    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost
    funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
    I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.

    While I don't think gay men are depraved, I think you may have a point about MRO projecting. That could explain a lot, he's just a flaming gay guy dying to come out. That could also explain his flair for theatrics. Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics.
    Projection tends to be the main MO of all of these types, the ones that hate on LGBTQ people & call us groomers & pedos. The haters are the ones that truly want to be pedos, they've even shown us by trying to make child marriage legal.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Ravne on Monday, May 27, 2024 20:21:00
    Ravne wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: MRO to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 07:00 pm

    you dont have the brainpower or the testicular fortitude to troll me
    must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.

    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's
    almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.

    You're a very cunning linguist.

    Methinks you're also a troll and will be gone soon.



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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Ravne on Monday, May 27, 2024 22:54:00
    On 27 May 2024, Ravne said the following...

    While I don't think gay men are depraved, I think you may have a point about MRO projecting. That could explain a lot, he's just a flaming gay guy dying to come out. That could also explain his flair for theatrics. Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics.
    Projection tends to be the main MO of all of these types, the ones that hate on LGBTQ people & call us groomers & pedos. The haters are the ones that truly want to be pedos, they've even shown us by trying to make
    child marriage legal. ---

    now you're a homophobe lol

    "Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics" .. are you gonna start talking about people eating watermelon now?

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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to Gamgee on Monday, May 27, 2024 20:13:33
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Gamgee to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 08:21 pm

    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost
    funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
    You're a very cunning linguist.
    Methinks you're also a troll and will be gone soon.

    Was I trolling? Absolutely! Is that my interest in general? Not at all. I just get upset when I see people using slur words that were originally aimed at my people, taking them & throwing them around as "edgy insults" 1. at people they may not even apply to & 2. using such hurtful things in such a casual manner.

    To any that want to come back with something like "grow a thicker skin" or any such sentiment: the attitudes that allow this hurt to be looked at as if it's no big deal, it effects people's views of us & literally puts us in mortal danger. People take on the attitude that we're not people & our lives don't matter, then they start taking our lives, sometimes virtually (by taking away our rights) & sometimes literally.

    Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Ravne on Monday, May 27, 2024 22:18:03
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Gamgee on Mon May 27 2024 08:13 pm

    Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.

    Sorry, nobody needs to hijack an entire month for self glorification.
    Or self pity how ever you want to look at it.

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to RAVNE on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 06:38:00
    Quoting Ravne to Gamgee <=-

    where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about
    we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.

    I don't support "pride". I could care less what your or anyone else does
    in the bedroom. It really is at the very BOTTOM of the list of causes that
    we should be worried about. You sleep with / love who ever the hell you
    want.

    Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and
    will save the world.

    Shawn

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Ravne on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 07:26:00
    Ravne wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Gamgee to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 08:21 pm

    You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost
    funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.

    You're a very cunning linguist.
    Methinks you're also a troll and will be gone soon.

    Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier
    message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride
    month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all,
    instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.

    Could it possibly be that some people don't ACTUALLY support such a
    thing as "Pride month"? Is that not their right, as much as it is yours
    to support it? Should non-LGBQT supporters be made to feel "guilty" for
    not supporting such things?



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to ARELOR on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:22:00
    How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I

    That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.

    Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of
    race, gender, or sexual orientation.

    They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as
    "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key
    there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what
    they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.

    They also think that social media personality = a career.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to RAVNE on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:22:00
    Projection tends to be the main MO of all of these types, the ones that hate on
    LGBTQ people & call us groomers & pedos. The haters are the ones that truly >want to be pedos, they've even shown us by trying to make child marriage legal.

    I don't think he has called them all groomers and pedos. That said there
    are persons who have indeed tried to get under the LGBTQ+ unbrella that all groomers and pedos. My understanding is that most LGB community members
    are just as concerned about that as straight people are, and they don't
    want the groomers/pedos in their community. I am guessing you fall into
    that "concerned members" group?

    Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically
    people did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push
    to have that happen here in the US lately.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 08:09:00
    Tiny wrote to RAVNE <=-

    Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.

    Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

    (Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)



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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:06:56
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Tue May 28 2024 10:22 am

    Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.

    They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what
    they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.


    I think of the ones that signed a contract, (loan) to go to college then expect the rest of us that worked like dogs to pay their loans off.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:27:08
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Tue May 28 2024 10:22 am

    That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.

    Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.


    I am a straight white guy and I've feelt disadvantaged my entire life.
    I feel like I have a target on my back in the workplace. I don't even talk to women and you can't use racial identifiers or people think you are racist. I even say black guy, white guy, big dude, etc.

    They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what

    yeah my ex's dad was a 'boomer' and people talked shit to him on facebook. he was a prolific flame warrior like myself. that being said, dude worked for everything he had. he worked when on vacation. he was a sales guy for industrial cnc machines. A lot of our vacations included a 1 day business meeting for him.

    and then when he died his daughter who had nothing got all his money. she thought he was a piece of crap because he moved her around a lot when she was a kid. i pointed out he was trying to be a provider and during those times there were bad recessions where a lot of people couldn't find work.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:54:30
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue May 28 2024 12:27 pm

    I am a straight white guy and I've feelt disadvantaged my entire life. I

    You said in an earlier message that you're black..? This was a message you posted to Ravne this past Friday:

    people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becoming the majority. If I hadn't been into BBSing in the mid 90s & had other women

    what are you talking about? i'm black.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to fusion on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 18:17:02
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 03:54:00 +0000, you wrote:

    now you're a homophobe lol

    "Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics" .. are you gonna start talking
    about people eating watermelon now?

    Should also be pointed out that nothing poindexter said included the word "gay". That was projected in the reply to him.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Ravne on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 18:36:08
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 01:13:32 -0700, you wrote:

    Was I trolling? Absolutely! Is that my interest in general? Not at all.
    I just get upset when I see people using slur words that were originally aimed at my people, taking them & throwing them around as "edgy insults"
    1. at people they may not even apply to & 2. using such hurtful things
    in such a casual manner.
    So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This isn't a one way street, here.

    Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message
    where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.

    No need to force it upon us, either. I have no reason to demonize you (again, you're projecting). I personally don't care what you do (or don't do), but I also don't need to include myself in something I have no interest in, whatsoever.

    In case you didn't realize or care, we just got done mourning the heroes that have given their lives to protect "our" (that's OUR as in ALL OF US - See? No demonizing there either) freedoms. Did you bother supporting that, by chance? Did you hit up a Memorial Day parade? Maybe visit a grave site? I didn't see you mention that whatsoever, but twice now you've made sure to let us all to know that pride month is coming soon!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 20:05:55
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Accession to fusion on Tue May 28 2024 06:17 pm

    On Tue, 28 May 2024 03:54:00 +0000, you wrote:

    now you're a homophobe lol

    "Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics" .. are you gonna start talking about people eating watermelon now?

    Should also be pointed out that nothing poindexter said included the word "gay". That was projected in the reply to him.


    he implied it, though. he ALWAYS implies the word gay!
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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to Accession on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 18:34:41
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Accession to Ravne on Tue May 28 2024 06:36 pm

    aimed at my people, taking them & throwing them around as "edgy insults"
    1. at people they may not even apply to & 2. using such hurtful things in
    So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This isn't a one way street, here.

    Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags, pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!

    In case you didn't realize or care, we just got done mourning the heroes that have given their lives to protect "our" (that's OUR as in ALL OF US - See? No demonizing there either) freedoms. Did you bother supporting that,

    I'm alive, so obviously I didn't "make the ultimate sacrifice" for my country. I'm a veteran though, so don't you dare suggest I don't know what it takes to defend our freedoms. Were you assuming as a lesbian I couldn't be a veteran? We were in the military long before we were openly accepted there. We defended the freedoms of those that push the attitude that our rights should be taken, the same as every military member defended ALL of our freedoms, including the freedom of LGBTQ people to love those that we love.

    I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 17:54:24
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to RAVNE on Tue May 28 2024 10:22 am

    Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have that happen here in the US lately.

    Missouri tried to ban child marriage but ran into resistance from house republicans.

    The committee's chair, Rep. Jim Murphy, a St. Louis-area Republican, said in an interview that there aren't enough votes within the committee to get it to the House floor.

    Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state's marriage age, he said. "It's on the.going 16 to 18,"

    Murphy, who supports the bill, said of the opposition. "There's just enough members in that committee that don't think that's a good idea." One of those lawmakers is Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, a Savannah Republican and vice chair of the committee. Van Schoiack said in an interview that he knows people who got married as minors, including a woman at roughly age 17. The couple, he said, is "still madly in love with each other."

    "Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?"
    https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html#story link=cpy
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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to Accession on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 19:24:13
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Accession to Ravne on Tue May 28 2024 06:36 pm

    So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This isn't a one way street, here.

    I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Ravne on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 21:46:40
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 23:34:40 -0700, you wrote:

    Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags,
    pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!

    You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention as derogatory terms, also.

    I'm alive, so obviously I didn't "make the ultimate sacrifice" for my country. I'm a veteran though, so don't you dare suggest I don't know
    what it takes to defend our freedoms. Were you assuming as a lesbian I couldn't be a veteran? We were in the military long before we were
    openly accepted there. We defended the freedoms of those that push the attitude that our rights should be taken, the same as every military
    member defended ALL of our freedoms, including the freedom of LGBTQ
    people to love those that we love.

    No mention of it whatsoever, though. Instead, you insist on pushing another agenda entirely, and putting people down if they don't have the same views as you do.

    I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those
    that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of
    the problem.

    For someone who wants to try to get their point across, you sure do go about it the wrong way.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to Accession on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 21:13:54
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Accession to Ravne on Tue May 28 2024 09:46 pm

    I'm alive, so obviously I didn't "make the ultimate sacrifice" for my
    country. I'm a veteran though, so don't you dare suggest I don't know what
    No mention of it whatsoever, though. Instead, you insist on pushing another agenda entirely, and putting people down if they don't have the same views as you do.

    Are you talking about me not mentioning what I did for Memorial Day? Unfortunately I had to work & my partner had a long medical appointment to go to, so we weren't able to do anything special. You're the one that brought up Memorial Day when I mentioned Pride. Why would you assume I have disdain for 1 just because I promote the other? You come across like you assume I hate our country & that's not true at all. I can hate what some of our citizens are doing without hating the ideals of our country.
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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Ravne on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 22:39:16
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 19:24:13

    So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This
    isn't a one way street, here.

    I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?

    My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay black toaster or whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..

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  • From Ravne@VERT/RAVEN to Accession on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 21:43:17
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 09:13 pm

    No mention of it whatsoever, though. Instead, you insist on pushing
    another agenda entirely, and putting people down if they don't have the
    same views as you do.

    I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".

    I don't see it now, but you said something about me going about trying to get my point across the wrong way. Am I? I don't know that I agree with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.

    Second, I could care less about being a "good gay", the ones that make sure to cave to the desires of straight people, to make sure they don't cross that line of what's acceptable to y'all. Have you ever heard the analogy of not thinking the leopards would ever eat MY face? That's what happens to "good gays", eventually the people they're putting on a good show for turn on them too, once they've gotten what they need from them. And no, don't pull out some shit about "you're saying all straight people are leopards that are going to eat the faces of gay people", the leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 23:22:08
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue May 28 2024 05:54 pm


    "Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?" ht tps://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html#stor y link=cpy


    I say let them do it, especially if they have children. I'm not for much older marrying younger, though.

    I had a kid young and i would have married young if i had the opportunity at the time. we were in a 'common law' marriage for 11 years. that's better than most adults I know.

    I also didn't live with my parents until I was 35.

    Marriage is such a joke now. People shouldn't marry without an ironclad prenup. Even if you're poor.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ravne on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 04:19:49
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Gamgee on Mon May 27 2024 08:13 pm

    Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.

    Asking for support from sucky old straight white men after criticising sucky old straight white men is a tall order.

    I think I will rather stay at home doing the stuff sucky old straight white men do, like oiling the guns, fixing the greenhouses and repairing small engines.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 04:34:34
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny on Tue May 28 2024 08:09 am

    Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

    (Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)

    I'd go the American way and turn it into a comercial festivity with discounts and liquidations of old stocks.

    "Celebrate peace month with us! 40% off in any obsolete weaponry! Help the planet purchasing refurbished tanks instead of having new ones made! Try now our steel ammo, much less poisonous to the environment than traditional lead ammo, 30% off this month only!!!!"


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ravne on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 04:56:30
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 06:34 pm

    I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.

    I have a big issue when somebody claims that you either support him or you are his enemy. That trait becomes an extremist and the claim is most often false than true.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ravne on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 05:06:59
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 09:43 pm

    I don't see it now, but you said something about me going about trying to get my point across the wrong way. Am I? I don't know that I agree with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone

    Your strategy consists in antagonizing everybody who does not belong to your chosen group, which is a very bad strategy. When people realizes you are dividing society in a group consisting of "you" and a group consisting of "everybody else" and notices you are waging war against the second, they may decide it is worth it to build up a political defense to annihilate you before you annihilate them.

    And yes, you are waging war against "everybody else" despite your claims to the contrary. Your words ooze hate and resentment. You may attempt to sugar coat it but it does not work better than a nazi saying he has some non-white friend somewhere.

    There is also the point that rainbow politics are far beyond achieving human rights for homosexuals. It is just convenient that demands for equal human rights can be used as a cover. Meanwhile you have homosexuals supporting politicians who also support religious zealots that would have homosexuals killed, which comes to show word-soup politics is not necessarily related to homosexual rights. ie. there are political agendas and interests and a bunch of them aren¨ t pretty.


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 06:21:00
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

    Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.
    Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

    Even that would be amazing.

    (Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for
    it.)

    So true.

    Shawn

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to kk4qbn on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 07:52:00
    kk4qbn wrote to Ravne <=-

    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 19:24:13

    So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This
    isn't a one way street, here.

    I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?

    My question in all this crap is why do people think they need
    label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white
    male or a gay black toaster or whatever, because publicly my
    sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that
    matter.. I've never understood this..

    It's because people like this one above, who claim they just want to be
    treated "equal".... really want to be treated as "special" or "better".

    They use the "picked on" and "mistreated" labels in order to further
    that agenda.

    It's really that simple. They really are not content to just live their
    lives as they want to, and let others do the same; oh no, they need to
    make sure we all understand how hard they have it, and keep it in our
    faces at all times.



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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Ravne on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:13:00
    On 28 May 2024, Ravne said the following...

    I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
    my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
    well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
    else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
    our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".

    this has to be a joke. easily the largest source of violence against your community is from within. domestic violence is huge .. why do you hate each other? everything you read will say the violence is perpetrated by a "partner" .. what sort of parter do you expect a gay person might choose? everyone is so desperate to make it seem like random straight guys are going around beating up gay (or trans or whatever) people for fun.

    do you know how hard it is to find modern recent examples of "gay bashing" like you want to fearmonger? wikipedia, the source for all things bullshit, repeatedly will use wording like "in some countries" and other vague wording.. do you know how large the USA section of the Violence against LGBT people page is? And half of it is COPE about "ohh, it's because nobody reports it" .. and you know what happens when you lot have nothing to complain about in the US? "well, it's still happening somewhere on the planet!" ..

    it gets even more annoying when it's like "this homeless gay person was robbed! gay homeless people are more likely to be robbed! like 95%!" .. imagine i robbed 100 people and 5 of them were gay.. a perhaps generous estimate of the % of people in the US who are gay.. do you see how that skews
    that statistics? almost every homeless person gets robbed. holy cow all the homeless gay people got robbed, we have to do something about this violence against queer people!

    then you keep getting at how "words are violence" .. you repeatedly lump the word "fag" in with "pedophile" and "groomer" the first is an insult against a trait that can't be changed.. a part of who you are, as some people insist. but the second two it's obvious you would want to defend against. but if you remove the second two we have the two options here:

    "fag" <-> "straight white men"

    these are traits that can't be changed, and your usage is meant to degrade and demean. do you make fun of the handicapped? perhaps people with speech impediments? bash a few redheads now and again? these are now both traits protected under the Civil Rights Act btw.. but talking about progress is lame right?

    with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.

    i know why you keep responding.. because that's exactly what you came here for. you're like those people who on their first day joining twitter are trying out their hand at some bullshit trolling only to be dunked on by a bunch of spergs with anime avitars. you didn't want to be a part of this community, which is why you set yourself apart from it in the beginning. "if it wasn't for a few BBS women back in the day who told me everything will be okay because you're a woman" .. fuck off. i was going to ask if you wanted a parade for that, but that's exactly what you want.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to DENN on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 07:58:00
    Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.

    They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.

    I think of the ones that signed a contract, (loan) to go to college then expect the rest of us that worked like dogs to pay their loans off.

    Exactly the types I was thinking of. The folks in that category are almost exclusively young and are very entitled. Very few, if any, older men or
    women in that group of any race, gender, or orientation.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 08:11:00
    Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people >> did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have >> that happen here in the US lately.

    Missouri tried to ban child marriage but ran into resistance from house republicans.

    OK, so they apparently already are legal if they were trying to ban them.

    Who is trying to make them legal in places where marriage between the age
    of 16-18 isn't *already* legal?

    Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state's marriage age, he said. "It's on the.going 16 to 18,"

    So it is not ok for a 16-or-17 year old to be married (with parental
    consent) but it is ok to expose that "child," and ones even younger, to books with pornographic images (just so long as they are same-sex images), even
    when the parents oppose the idea?

    "Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or
    17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead
    and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?"

    So it is only legal with parental consent. They are not trying to *make it legal*, it is *already* legal.

    By the way, you don't have to pick on a "hick state" for this, either. California also allows persons under 18 to marry with parental consent,
    just like Missouri does.

    On the surface, I don't think that is a good idea to allow those < 18 to get married, but it sounds like they already do.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 08:14:00
    Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

    (Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)

    This.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to ACCESSION on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 08:18:00
    Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags,
    pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!

    You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention as derogatory terms, also.

    +1


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to KK4QBN on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 08:20:00
    My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't >want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay black toaster or >whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or >anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..

    Agreed. It is not my business and I don't care for it to be. As long as
    it doesn't interfere with my life, you should be free to live yours as you please.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to RAVNE on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 08:27:00
    I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn well right,
    we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expec
    for themselves. Pride is about normalizing our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".

    You already have all the rights that straight people have. If someone is trying to murder you, or is otherwise violating those rights, they are criminals.

    By the way, thank you for your service.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 13:54:09
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 29 2024 04:34 am

    (Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)

    I'd go the American way and turn it into a comercial festivity with discounts and liquidations of old stocks.

    "Celebrate peace month with us! 40% off in any obsolete weaponry! Help the planet purchasing refurbished tanks instead of having new ones made! Try now our steel ammo, much less poisonous to the environment than traditional lead ammo, 30% off this month only!!!!"


    the american way is to sell it to another country, then eventually go to war with them.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 14:38:39
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 29 2024 08:11 am


    So it is only legal with parental consent. They are not trying to *make it legal*, it is *already* legal.

    By the way, you don't have to pick on a "hick state" for this, either. California also allows persons under 18 to marry with parental consent,
    just like Missouri does.

    he picked it because it's in the headlines. news is entertainment now.
    my state of wisconsin allows marrying at 16 with consent of guardian.
    MANY states allow marrying at the age of 16 with consent.

    So what these legislators who said no really want is to keep out of people's business.

    We have bigger fish to fry. btw, look at congress' minutes. those people can't decide on SHIT. they go to lunch and break more than they discuss and vote on bills.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to fusion on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 16:28:00
    fusion wrote to Ravne <=-

    On 28 May 2024, Ravne said the following...

    I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
    my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
    well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
    else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
    our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".

    this has to be a joke. easily the largest source of violence
    against your community is from within. domestic violence is huge
    .. why do you hate each other? everything you read will say the
    violence is perpetrated by a "partner" .. what sort of parter do
    you expect a gay person might choose? everyone is so desperate to
    make it seem like random straight guys are going around beating
    up gay (or trans or whatever) people for fun.

    do you know how hard it is to find modern recent examples of "gay
    bashing" like you want to fearmonger? wikipedia, the source for
    all things bullshit, repeatedly will use wording like "in some
    countries" and other vague wording.. do you know how large the
    USA section of the Violence against LGBT people page is? And half
    of it is COPE about "ohh, it's because nobody reports it" .. and
    you know what happens when you lot have nothing to complain about
    in the US? "well, it's still happening somewhere on the planet!"
    ..

    it gets even more annoying when it's like "this homeless gay
    person was robbed! gay homeless people are more likely to be
    robbed! like 95%!" .. imagine i robbed 100 people and 5 of them
    were gay.. a perhaps generous estimate of the % of people in the
    US who are gay.. do you see how that skews that statistics?
    almost every homeless person gets robbed. holy cow all the
    homeless gay people got robbed, we have to do something about
    this violence against queer people!

    then you keep getting at how "words are violence" .. you
    repeatedly lump the word "fag" in with "pedophile" and "groomer"
    the first is an insult against a trait that can't be changed.. a
    part of who you are, as some people insist. but the second two
    it's obvious you would want to defend against. but if you remove
    the second two we have the two options here:

    "fag" <-> "straight white men"

    these are traits that can't be changed, and your usage is meant
    to degrade and demean. do you make fun of the handicapped?
    perhaps people with speech impediments? bash a few redheads now
    and again? these are now both traits protected under the Civil
    Rights Act btw.. but talking about progress is lame right?

    with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.

    i know why you keep responding.. because that's exactly what you
    came here for. you're like those people who on their first day
    joining twitter are trying out their hand at some bullshit
    trolling only to be dunked on by a bunch of spergs with anime
    avitars. you didn't want to be a part of this community, which is
    why you set yourself apart from it in the beginning. "if it
    wasn't for a few BBS women back in the day who told me everything
    will be okay because you're a woman" .. fuck off. i was going to
    ask if you wanted a parade for that, but that's exactly what you
    want.

    leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down. ---

    this is mental illness. if you're afraid of people like this.
    fear of what's around every corner.

    BRAVO!! BRAVO!!!

    I purposely quoted this entire message because I like it that much.
    Spot on accurate! Jesus I'm so freakin tired of the drama-assholes like
    the recent one we have here. Also known as trolls; hopefully to be gone
    soon.

    Again, well written and thanks!



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 16:29:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to ACCESSION <=-

    Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags, pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!

    You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention
    as
    derogatory terms, also.

    +1

    +2,000,000



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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Ravne on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 19:52:30
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 00:24:12 -0700, you wrote:

    I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term"
    for yourself?

    I don't need a "preferred term." Do you?

    How about don't refer to anyone in a derogatory way, and others may actually reply in kind. It's pretty simple.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to kk4qbn on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 19:55:40
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:39:16 -0400, you wrote:

    My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay
    black toaster or whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..

    Hi! You can call me Tim!

    Thank gawd someone sees where I was going with that.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Ravne on Thursday, May 30, 2024 08:07:30
    Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 06:34 pm

    I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.

    And if someone attempts to speak out against those people but says the wrong thing, both camps jump all over them.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to GAMGEE on Thursday, May 30, 2024 09:10:00
    +1

    +2,000,000

    When I am reading via a QWK reader I cannot upvote things. :D


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to ARELOR on Thursday, May 30, 2024 09:13:00
    I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't
    want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do >> think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.

    I have a big issue when somebody claims that you either support him or you are >his enemy. That trait becomes an extremist and the claim is most often false >than true.

    Exactly. It is an extremist viewpoint. I could support something, or be apathetic towards it, but still be critical of the methods being used to acheive/express that something.


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, June 04, 2024 10:58:11
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 07:46 am

    I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.

    Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to phigan on Tuesday, June 04, 2024 14:41:40
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: phigan to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 04 2024 10:58 am

    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 07:46 am

    I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.

    Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.

    i wish i didn't have one. got tons of flooding rain here.
    i got a real wet basement here but it's drying with blower fans.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Wednesday, June 05, 2024 08:51:00
    I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.

    Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.

    I wish mine still lived in their previous home. It had a finished basement (well, technically it was a bi-level) complete with bathrooms and bedrooms.
    That'd be a nice setup! :D

    Now, my mother lives in a much smaller home with no basement, while my
    father and his wife live in a home with a clean, dry basement but with no facilities. It does at least have electric and is a walk out. ;)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, June 05, 2024 22:13:04
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to PHIGAN on Wed Jun 05 2024 08:51 am



    I wish mine still lived in their previous home. It had a finished basement (well, technically it was a bi-level) complete with bathrooms and bedrooms.
    That'd be a nice setup! :D

    Now, my mother lives in a much smaller home with no basement, while my father and his wife live in a home with a clean, dry basement but with no facilities. It does at least have electric and is a walk out. ;)

    atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, June 06, 2024 09:24:00
    atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.

    ;(

    True, and I am glad I do still have one.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, June 06, 2024 18:14:20
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jun 06 2024 09:24 am

    atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.

    ;(

    True, and I am glad I do still have one.

    i'm just jerking your chain. she did die though.
    so did her sister a year later. then another sister died of cancer last summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, June 07, 2024 08:29:00
    summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.

    That will unfortunately do it.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Friday, June 07, 2024 10:18:58
    Re: Re: BBS community improve
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jun 07 2024 08:29 am

    summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.

    That will unfortunately do it.

    When I was in 5th grade, I remember the class having an assignment to make some mock advertisements to promote health and not doing unhealthy things. I remember one of the students drew a graveyard with "Marlboro country" written below it.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, June 08, 2024 10:34:00
    summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.

    That will unfortunately do it.

    When I was in 5th grade, I remember the class having an assignment to make som
    mock advertisements to promote health and not doing unhealthy things. I remember one of the students drew a graveyard with "Marlboro country" written below it.

    Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to
    believe they might be healthy.

    By the time I came along, there was already some PSA advertising,
    especially from the American Cancer Society, about how smoking could kill
    you. They had not yet got to promoting the dangers of second-hand smoke,
    or smoking while pregnant, but they'd at least got as far as it could kill
    you.

    I had a lot of relatives, but none I lived with, that were life-long
    smokers at the time. It was really difficult for them to even consider stopping. What surprised me was how many people my age, and slightly
    younger, who picked up the habit despite the dire warnings.

    It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to DUMAS WALKER on Sunday, June 09, 2024 06:41:00
    Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-

    It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be
    making a comeback.

    We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it
    let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my
    HEALTHY low tar darts?

    Shawn

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 09, 2024 07:36:21
    Re: Smoking
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am

    Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to believe they might be healthy.

    Absolutely true. I remember those commercials in the 60's. Every now and then, my wife will point one of the printed ads that gets posted on facebook from time to time.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Sunday, June 09, 2024 10:30:55
    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:41 am

    Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-

    It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be
    making a comeback.

    We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it
    let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my HEALTHY low tar darts?

    Shawn

    I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one. If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of quitting.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bf2k+ on Sunday, June 09, 2024 10:36:56
    Re: Smoking
    By: Bf2k+ to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 09 2024 07:36 am

    Re: Smoking
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am

    Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to believe they might be healthy.

    Absolutely true. I remember those commercials in the 60's. Every now and then, my wife will point one of the printed ads that gets posted on facebook from time to time.

    I'm surprised they didn't show ads with cartoon babies smoking. They probably tried to, but it was shot down.

    They had doctors in ads, lucille ball and her husband. They said it relieved fatigue in sports. All kinds of dumb shit.

    I don't think ads helped the sales. It's a drug and drugs sell themselves.
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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Tiny on Sunday, June 09, 2024 11:18:15
    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:41:00

    Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-

    It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a
    comeback.

    We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my HEALTHY low tar darts?

    Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking, and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure and heart-rate stable.
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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to MRO on Sunday, June 09, 2024 14:01:00
    On 09 Jun 2024, MRO said the following...

    It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.
    We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my
    I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i
    was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one. If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of quitting.

    i have a friend who quit the cigarette part as a side effect of going on
    an anti-depressant, but pretty much immediately went to vaping instead.. he still goes outside and does the whole ceremony.

    i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend
    the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth
    to smoke while i sat inside waiting. i don't miss hanging my jacket up on the deck to air it out though..

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fusion on Sunday, June 09, 2024 13:39:20
    Re: Re: Smoking
    By: fusion to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 02:01 pm

    i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting. i don't miss hanging my jacket up on the deck to air it out though..

    in my area they just kept the ashtrays out and paid the little fine.
    eventually owners changed and they took that away.

    i have mixed feelings. I don't like stinking like cigs.
    they should just have bars with smoking and bars with non smoking.

    furthermore, part of my reason for quitting is people were always hitting me up for cigs. either random losers on the street or people who quit buying cigs and just borrow from people. totally annoying.

    my casino went to non smoking and i wonder how that hurt them. nobody there is going to go into a smoking area. they want to smoke at the machines.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 09, 2024 18:32:21
    Re: Smoking
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am

    I had a lot of relatives, but none I lived with, that were life-long smokers at the time. It was really difficult for them to even consider stopping. What surprised me was how many people my age, and slightly younger, who picked up the habit despite the dire warnings.

    It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.

    That surprises me too. :(

    Nightfox

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to kk4qbn on Sunday, June 09, 2024 19:48:15
    Re: Smoking
    By: kk4qbn to Tiny on Sun Jun 09 2024 11:18 am

    Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking, and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure and heart-rate stable.

    I quit in 2008 and other than the normal bs that goes with being a diabetic, I didn't really have any other issues.

    My wife finally quit a little over a year ago. It was killing her. Less that three weeks after quitting, her face had completely changed and she looked much more lively and younger. She can't breathe anymore and she has gained about 20 lbs but I am just so glad she finally quit...

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Monday, June 10, 2024 06:32:00
    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on.
    It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped
    when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.

    I don't miss it at all anymore. The smell is pretty disgusting to me now.

    If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of
    quitting.

    I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
    climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
    quit.

    Shawn

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Bf2k+ on Monday, June 10, 2024 08:20:01
    Re: Smoking
    By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 19:48:15

    Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking,
    and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real
    shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure
    and heart-rate stable.

    I quit in 2008 and other than the normal bs that goes with being a diabetic, I didn't really have any other issues.

    I never had I blood-sugar until after I quit smoking and drinking sodas, etc.. I'ts crazy.. All of it started less than a month after I stopped, But I had also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have had more to do with a lot of the health issues.

    My wife finally quit a little over a year ago. It was killing her. Less that three weeks after quitting, her face had completely changed and she looked much more lively and younger. She can't breathe anymore and she has gained about 20 lbs but I am just so glad she finally quit...

    I'm happy I stopped too.. It's crazy I tried and tried to stop smoking numerous times and never could, then one day I just had an epiphany that I was not going to die young and leave a good looking corps like I thought I was going to. That I was actually probably going to live a lot longer than I thought and I wanted my body to be able to keep up with my mind. After that I just could'nt smoke anymore. cigarettes tasted like crap.. I kept a pack in my pocket for a whole week just in case, but I just could'nt light another up.

    The opiotes were a little harder to come off of after so many years of use and abuse, it wasnt like I was getting high off them anymore, I was just maintaining. But I'm so happy to be off all that.. And sugary drinks too.. I stopped it all, all around the same time 4 years ago.

    To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to fusion on Monday, June 10, 2024 10:02:45
    Re: Re: Smoking
    By: fusion to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 02:01 pm

    i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting.

    Some of my family smokes, and even at home, they like to smoke outside so that they don't smoke up the inside of their house. So when I'm at their house, I either sit inside while they go outside to smoke, or I go out with them.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Monday, June 10, 2024 13:18:49
    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:32 am

    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.

    I don't miss it at all anymore. The smell is pretty disgusting to me now.


    whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

    just the regular smoke is ok for me sometimes.


    I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
    climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
    quit.


    i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.
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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Monday, June 10, 2024 18:11:24
    Re: Smoking
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:32 pm

    cigarette smoking seems to be
    making a comeback.

    That surprises me too. :(

    I heard that in some European
    countries, doctors say that up to 5
    cigarettes a day is totally fine.

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to kk4qbn on Monday, June 10, 2024 18:24:47
    Re: Smoking
    By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

    also stopped a long bout of an opoid
    addiction so I'm sure that may have

    Awesome that you kicked that. But, if
    you ever (EVER) decide to try again,
    PLEASE remember that you don't need to
    take as much as you did when you
    regularly did them, and only take a
    tiny fraction of what you did before.

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 06:25:00
    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes
    and their whole body. that smells horrible.

    Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

    i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.

    I was pretty lucky I guess. Every vice I've quit there have been no
    real effects.

    Shawn

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Tiny on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 05:53:55
    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

    Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

    Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even around when smoking or anything.

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to phigan on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 11:17:21
    Re: Smoking
    By: phigan to kk4qbn on Mon Jun 10 2024 18:24:47

    Re: Smoking
    By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

    also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have

    Awesome that you kicked that. But, if you ever (EVER) decide to try again, PLEASE remember that you don't need to take as much as you did when you regularly did them, and only take a tiny fraction of what you did before.

    Yep, I've known of a couple people that have died that way. Addiction is bad and one cannot let themselves think that they are above it, or over it.. theres always that one event, sound, smell, or anything that could trigger a relapse. So definaly I stay very aware of that and use time to stop and think. It's definatly not worth it, I have distanced myself from ANYONE I used to hang with. It's far too dangerous anymore to fool with anything, they are putting carfentanil in EVERYTHING, spiking pain pills, xanax. vapes. marijuana, I mean everything. and it's crazy.. there is definatly no room for complacency.
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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to kk4qbn on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 10:44:49
    Re: Smoking
    By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

    To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.

    Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bf2k+ on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 11:19:05
    Re: Smoking
    By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 11 2024 10:44 am

    Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

    It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

    Nightfox

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  • From Mickey@VERT/CORSYNC to Tiny on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 19:01:33
    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:32:00

    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
    climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
    quit.

    I don't want to belabor this but, I started smoking at 12 yo, and gave it by best until I had the (almost) BIG one at 60 yo and got me a membership in the chest scar club. Soon as I felt better, I lit up. 4 years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!

    It's tough man. Sing like a baratone now. :-)


    .
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MICKEY on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 07:18:00
    Quoting Mickey to Tiny <=-

    years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!

    At least you quit eventually! ;) I had oral cancer in 2007 and that was
    it for me, Doc said it had a much better chance of not coming back if I
    didn't smoke again, so I didn't.

    Shawn

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 06:36:48
    Re: Smoking
    By: Nightfox to Bf2k+ on Tue Jun 11 2024 11:19 am

    Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

    Me too... :)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to phigan on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 05:53:00
    phigan wrote to Tiny <=-

    Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to
    air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him,
    not even around when smoking or anything.

    Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
    20s.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TINY on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 08:26:00
    whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

    Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

    When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never
    could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I
    know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

    OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an
    ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
    her when I was younger! :o


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 08:29:00
    It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

    I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to
    find (especially the first two).

    My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:17:41
    Re: Smoking
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Jun 12 2024 08:29 am

    It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my
    favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

    I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to find (especially the first two).

    I haven't heard of the first 2. I like RC though.

    My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)

    I haven't heard of those either. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Bf2k+ on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 03:58:33
    Re: Smoking
    By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 11 2024 10:44 am

    To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.

    Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

    I quit soda years ago and I was a habitual drinker. I just quit cold turkey and don't have any suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I realize it's not the same thing and might even be not attactive, I certainly didn't like them. But I do now and it fills the need when I need it.

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 12:29:45
    Re: Re: Smoking
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Wed Jun 12 2024 05:53 am

    Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
    20s.

    And not of goths? :)

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to The Lizard Master on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 12:31:50
    Re: Smoking
    By: The Lizard Master to Bf2k+ on Wed Jun 12 2024 03:58 am

    carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I

    Funny you mention the faking out thing. Sometimes I'll have a carbonated water and it tricks my brain into thinking I'm having an alcoholic drink, and then it makes me want a cigarette.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 19:37:55
    Re: Smoking
    By: Dumas Walker to TINY on Wed Jun 12 2024 08:26 am

    whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

    Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

    When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).


    yeah, i had a coworker who smoked a lot and didn't smell. she would just smoke outside.
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to The Lizard Master on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 20:18:00
    On Wed Jun 12 03:58:00 2024, The Lizard Master wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

    suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of

    I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda now. It does fool me into
    thinking I'm not missing out.

    I do the same thing with the fake beer and fake booze. I don't feel I'm missing anything except the stuff that's bad for me. :)

    Shawn


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 20:16:00
    On Wed Jun 12 08:26:00 2024, Dumas Walker wrote to TINY <=-

    When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

    I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she came
    inside, as well as other washing tricks.

    OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
    her when I was younger! :o

    This is what my supervisor is like, he's a walking ashtray. LOL

    Shawn


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Thursday, June 13, 2024 08:09:00
    Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my 20s.

    And not of goths? :)

    When I was younger (late '80s/early '90s), the folks who smoked clove cigarettes were not goths. Most of the goths that smoked in college smoked
    the real ones (and drank like fish).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TINY on Thursday, June 13, 2024 08:11:00
    When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

    I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she >came
    inside, as well as other washing tricks.

    Hand sanitizing wasn't a big thing back then. Washing was though. ;) I
    think she used a perfume or lotion that must have either got rid of it or covered it up real good.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to All on Thursday, June 13, 2024 07:09:00
    Two hookers were talking on a street corner.

    One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"

    The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Thursday, June 13, 2024 07:10:00
    Tiny wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

    I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda
    now. It does fool me into thinking I'm not missing out.

    I drank tonic waters in clubs with lime and didn't miss the gin - it's
    still a favorite drink of mine.



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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, June 15, 2024 16:06:50
    Re: Re: Smoking
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Thu Jun 13 2024 07:09 am

    Two hookers were talking on a street corner.

    One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"

    The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."


    reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:


    ... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Wes Thomas@VERT/RICKSBBS to phigan on Sunday, June 16, 2024 06:39:19
    Re: Smoking
    By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am

    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

    Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

    Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.

    clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Wes Thomas on Sunday, June 16, 2024 19:36:41
    Re: Smoking
    By: Wes Thomas to phigan on Sun Jun 16 2024 06:39 am

    Re: Smoking
    By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am

    Re: Smoking
    By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

    Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

    Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.

    clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to DaiTengu on Monday, June 24, 2024 09:15:00
    DaiTengu wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."


    reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:


    ... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

    If you smoke after sex, use more lube.


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  • From Whirlwind@VERT/ZZAPBBS to kk4qbn on Wednesday, July 17, 2024 02:24:29
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: kk4qbn to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 15:16:25

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Whirlwind on Tuesday, July 16, 2024 22:52:33
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Whirlwind to kk4qbn on Wed Jul 17 2024 02:24:29

    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: kk4qbn to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 15:16:25

    ok?
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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Denn on Wednesday, July 17, 2024 15:45:32
    Re: Re: BBS community improvements
    By: Ravne to Gamgee on Mon May 27 2024 08:13 pm

    Sorry, nobody needs to hijack an entire month for self glorification.
    Or self pity how ever you want to look at it.

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    I will say AMEN to that.
    June used to be noted as The Month that a man and woman who wanted to get married would do .
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