• Home Lab

    From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to All on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 06:57:00
    I cleaned out several boxes of old computer crap, and e-wasted a ton
    of old stuff I wouldn't need any more -- ATA laptop hard drives, old
    802.11g routers (I kept one V2 WRT54G for old times' sake...) and a
    bunch of old yellowed keyboards.

    I had a couple of mostly dead single-core laptops that went too, as
    much as I liked them, they're too slow to keep up nowadays.

    What I did find that I had forgotten about was an older Thinkpad with
    an i7 - I found some RAM to put into it, put a 256GB SSD in the drive
    slot and a 750GB SATA drive in the ultra-bay. It'll make a
    decent-enough part-time home lab for the time being. With an i7 it'll
    run docker or a VM, won't take a ton of electricity, and it won't take
    up a lot of room in my storage space/server room.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 10:48:37
    Re: Home Lab
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Wed Mar 20 2019 08:57 am

    an i7 - I found some RAM to put into it, put a 256GB SSD in the drive
    slot and a 750GB SATA drive in the ultra-bay. It'll make a
    decent-enough part-time home lab for the time being. With an i7 it'll
    run docker or a VM, won't take a ton of electricity, and it won't take
    up a lot of room in my storage space/server room.

    I hadn't heard the term "home lab" until some people mentioned it on Dove-Net recently.. I looked it up to see exactly what it meant, and it sounds like just playing with computer hardware/software at home to learn things? I've done that before but never thought to call it a "home lab".

    Nightfox

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 14:00:49
    Re: Home Lab
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 20 2019 12:48 pm

    I hadn't heard the term "home lab" until some people mentioned it on Dove-Net recently.. I looked it up to see exactly what it meant, and it

    Reddit has a pretty active group talking about it on /r/homelab

    Nowadays, even commercial-grade IT equipment is cheap enough, and bandwidth to the home is so plentiful, that many people are getting into the whole homelab thing. It can be a very fun hobby, plus you learn a lot!


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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 18:39:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to All <=-

    I cleaned out several boxes of old computer crap, and e-wasted a
    ton of old stuff I wouldn't need any more -- ATA laptop hard
    drives, old 802.11g routers (I kept one V2 WRT54G for old times'
    sake...) and a bunch of old yellowed keyboards.

    I need to do that too... I also have an old WRT54G that used to
    be my main router (running DD-WRT firmware). Don't think I can
    throw that one out.

    I had a couple of mostly dead single-core laptops that went too,
    as much as I liked them, they're too slow to keep up nowadays.

    Haha! I have a couple old HP's like that. Built like tanks but
    too old to use any more.

    What I did find that I had forgotten about was an older Thinkpad
    with an i7 - I found some RAM to put into it, put a 256GB SSD in
    the drive slot and a 750GB SATA drive in the ultra-bay. It'll
    make a decent-enough part-time home lab for the time being. With
    an i7 it'll run docker or a VM, won't take a ton of electricity,
    and it won't take up a lot of room in my storage space/server
    room.

    Excellent re-purposing there. Should work well.



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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 18:41:00
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I hadn't heard the term "home lab" until some people mentioned it
    on Dove-Net recently.. I looked it up to see exactly what it
    meant, and it sounds like just playing with computer
    hardware/software at home to learn things? I've done that before
    but never thought to call it a "home lab".

    Haha, same here! Apparently I've been Homelabbing for approx 25
    years now and never knew it! :)



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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 20:51:07
    Re: Home Lab
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 20 2019 12:48:37

    I hadn't heard the term "home lab" until some people mentioned it on Dove-Net recently.. I looked it up to see exactly what it meant, and it sounds like just playing with computer hardware/software at home to learn things? I've done that before but never thought to call it a "home lab".

    Seems like a lot of hobby things have names now where they didn't before, or have at least been rebranded. A side-effect of online communities arising, fostering rapid discussion, and forging identities for themselves, I think. "Makers" would be another example; they've always existed even if the name is new and some new tools have arrived on the scene.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dmxrob on Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:51:00
    On 03-20-19 16:00, Dmxrob wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nowadays, even commercial-grade IT equipment is cheap enough, and bandwidth to the home is so plentiful, that many people are getting
    into the whole homelab thing. It can be a very fun hobby, plus you
    learn a lot!

    Sounds like the networking and server equivalent of ham radio. :)


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dan Clough on Thursday, March 21, 2019 07:26:00
    Re: Re: Home Lab
    By: Dan Clough to Nightfox on Wed Mar 20 2019 08:41 pm

    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I hadn't heard the term "home lab" until some people mentioned it
    on Dove-Net recently.. I looked it up to see exactly what it
    meant, and it sounds like just playing with computer
    hardware/software at home to learn things? I've done that before
    but never thought to call it a "home lab".

    Haha, same here! Apparently I've been Homelabbing for approx 25
    years now and never knew it! :)



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to echicken on Thursday, March 21, 2019 07:32:00
    Re: Home Lab
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Mar 20 2019 10:51 pm

    Re: Home Lab
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 20 2019 12:48:37

    I hadn't heard the term "home lab" until some people mentioned it on Dove-Net recently.. I looked it up to see exactly what it meant, and it sounds like just playing with computer hardware/software at home to lea things? I've done that before but never thought to call it a "home lab"

    Seems like a lot of hobby things have names now where they didn't before, or have at least been rebranded. A side-effect of online communities arising, fostering rapid discussion, and forging identities for themselves, I think. "Makers" would be another example; they've always existed even if the name i new and some new tools have arrived on the scene.

    Regarding makers, the 3d printer and affordable laser cutters have introduced enough new people to give themselves a proper name. Technologies such as the RPi and Arduino make development of complex electromechanical devices much easier. 30 years ago when I was in junior college, there wasn't much in the way of hobby grade programmable controllers, and programming gate array
    logics was a one shot deal. Screw up the code and you'll have to burn
    another.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 21, 2019 09:48:08
    Re: Re: Home Lab
    By: Vk3jed to Dmxrob on Thu Mar 21 2019 01:51 pm

    Nowadays, even commercial-grade IT equipment is cheap enough, and bandwidth to the home is so plentiful, that many people are getting into the whole homelab thing. It can be a very fun hobby, plus you learn a lot!

    Sounds like the networking and server equivalent of ham radio. :)

    Exactly! Very good analogy!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dan Clough on Thursday, March 21, 2019 06:33:00
    Dan Clough wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I had a couple of mostly dead single-core laptops that went too,
    as much as I liked them, they're too slow to keep up nowadays.

    Haha! I have a couple old HP's like that. Built like tanks but
    too old to use any more.

    Yeah, they were Thinkpad T43s - best keyboard on a laptop ever. One
    had a an oddball PATA SSD, which gave it a couple of more years of
    life.


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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/CAPCITY to ECHICKEN on Friday, March 22, 2019 16:03:00
    Seems like a lot of hobby things have names now where they didn't before, or have at least been rebranded.

    Sort of like there were "emoticons" until some millenials though they had invented something new and starting calling them "emojis"? :D

    Mike

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MIKE POWELL on Friday, March 22, 2019 22:45:01
    Re: Home Lab
    By: MIKE POWELL to ECHICKEN on Fri Mar 22 2019 06:03 pm

    Seems like a lot of hobby things have names now where they didn't before, or have at least been rebranded.

    Sort of like there were "emoticons" until some millenials though they had invented something new and starting calling them "emojis"? :D

    Not exatly. Emoticons are made of multiple normal symbolic character, e.g.: @}---,--- :-) c[] :-O ;-P etc.

    ... while emojis are single Unicode character code points. You can't spontaneously make up a new Unicode codepoint (emoji glyph) all on your own, but you *can* invent a new emoticon anytime you get the inspiration!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DIGITAL MAN on Saturday, March 23, 2019 08:58:00
    Not exatly. Emoticons are made of multiple normal symbolic character, e.g.: @}---,--- :-) c[] :-O ;-P etc.
    ... while emojis are single Unicode character code points. You can't spontaneously make up a new Unicode codepoint (emoji glyph) all on your own, but you *can* invent a new emoticon anytime you get the inspiration!

    That may be the technical difference but to most of your facebookers and
    other social media folks, everything you described above is an emoji,
    whether you use the symbol characters (that may get translated into your unicode characters when it posts), or if it is somehting they can only
    select by clicking on it. :)

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dmxrob on Sunday, March 24, 2019 06:17:00
    On 03-21-19 11:48, Dmxrob wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Sounds like the networking and server equivalent of ham radio. :)

    Exactly! Very good analogy!

    It's something I'd do if I had the money and space - and wasn't putting so much effort into sport. But the sport is better at keeping me sane (and looking good ;) ).


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dumas Walker on Sunday, March 24, 2019 07:15:00
    On 03-23-19 10:58, Dumas Walker wrote to DIGITAL MAN <=-

    That may be the technical difference but to most of your facebookers
    and other social media folks, everything you described above is an
    emoji, whether you use the symbol characters (that may get translated
    into your unicode characters when it posts), or if it is somehting they can only select by clicking on it. :)

    On a related point, I find it annoying when social media sites wont or incorrectly convert emoticons into emojis.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to VK3JED on Sunday, March 24, 2019 07:41:00
    On a related point, I find it annoying when social media sites wont or incorrectly convert emoticons into emojis.

    Me also!

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to MIKE POWELL on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 08:48:56
    Re: Home Lab
    By: MIKE POWELL to ECHICKEN on Fri Mar 22 2019 18:03:00

    Sort of like there were "emoticons" until some millenials though they had invented something new and starting calling them "emojis"? :D

    Almost, though emoji are actually a bit of a different beast than emoticons. There's a bit of overlap wherein some applications will transform an emoticon into a graphic, whereas emoji are always meant to be displayed graphically.

    Actually that makes me think we should have the reverse of that available in BBS land, turning emoji into more primitive forms in our message readers, etc.

    To muddy the waters further, see "dongers", which are emoticons but using an expanded character set (if we assume emoticons were restricted to ASCII).

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 08:51:31
    Re: Re: Home Lab
    By: Vk3jed to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 24 2019 09:15:00

    On a related point, I find it annoying when social media sites wont or incorrectly convert emoticons into emojis.

    I used to make a point of disabling any emoticon-to-emoji feature when possible, even if it only affected my display. Doesn't bother me as much now, but I used to feel gross for producing a cartoon smiley when a simple :) would do. :|

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to echicken on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 06:50:00
    On 03-26-19 10:51, echicken wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    Re: Re: Home Lab
    By: Vk3jed to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 24 2019 09:15:00

    On a related point, I find it annoying when social media sites wont or incorrectly convert emoticons into emojis.

    I used to make a point of disabling any emoticon-to-emoji feature when possible, even if it only affected my display. Doesn't bother me as
    much now, but I used to feel gross for producing a cartoon smiley when
    a simple :) would do. :|

    Well, most people like the cartoon smileys nowadays and a lot don't understand what :) means, so I don't mind software doing the conversion for me. All I ask is that the software gets it right, so when I type my smileys, the correct emoji appears. :) I still prefer typing them, because it's quicker and easier than trying to find the one I want by pointing and clicking. :)


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  • From Jethro@VERT/MSRDBBS to Vk3jed on Monday, April 08, 2019 07:34:19
    Re: Re: Home Lab
    By: Vk3jed to Dmxrob on Thu Mar 21 2019 01:51 pm

    On 03-20-19 16:00, Dmxrob wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nowadays, even commercial-grade IT equipment is cheap enough, and bandwidth to the home is so plentiful, that many people are getting into the whole homelab thing. It can be a very fun hobby, plus you learn a lot!

    Sounds like the networking and server equivalent of ham radio. :)


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    And the cool thing is you can use all those old linksys routers for ham projects still (mesh networking and such). :)

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jethro on Monday, April 08, 2019 15:11:00
    On 04-08-19 09:34, Jethro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    And the cool thing is you can use all those old linksys routers for ham projects still (mesh networking and such). :)

    That's something I'd like to tinker with. :)


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