Do you ever doubt your faith, and do you think that instead of taking what's written in the bible as always true we should ask
ourselves if there is actually a god, and if there is, is God the right god that we should be worshiping?
Do you ever doubt your faith, and do you think that instead of taking
what's written in the bible as always true we should ask
ourselves if there is actually a god, and if there is, is God the
right god that we should be worshiping?
Do good. That is what my parents told to me. Doesn't matter if you believe in God, Budah, or none of the above. Most organized religions are in it for all they can take - which is why I never subscribed to any of them. I just do good.
Wars have been fought over "their god". People kill people for what/who they believe is god. They've never seen him/her. There's no imperical evidence god exists. Seems to me religion has caused many many problesms in our world. I can love without a "god" in my life.
the problem is people, not religion. people want to start wars, enslave and kill.
the problem is people, not religion. people want to start wars,
enslave and kill.
People tend to believe their own religion is true and other religions are false, and they often say their religion compels them to "save" other people by telling them about their religion and trying to get them to convert. Is that people or religion?
Do you ever doubt your faith, and do you think that instead of taking what's written in the bible as always true we should ask ourselves if there is actually a god, and if there is, is God the right god that we should be worshiping?
Do you ever doubt your faith, and do you think that instead of
taking what's written in the bible as always true we should ask
ourselves if there is actually a god, and if there is, is God the
There are thousands of gods among dozens and dozens of religions today. Every member of every religion believes that all gods from other religions are imaginary, but their god(s) is(are) real.
Personally, I don't think any of them are real. I think worshipping any is an utter waste of time.
Re: Doubts
By: DaiTengu to Positivec on Thu Mar 07 2019 09:37 am
Do you ever doubt your faith, and do you think that instead of
taking what's written in the bible as always true we should ask
ourselves if there is actually a god, and if there is, is God the
There are thousands of gods among dozens and dozens of religions today. Every member of every religion believes that all gods from other religi are imaginary, but their god(s) is(are) real.
Personally, I don't think any of them are real. I think worshipping any an utter waste of time.
The way I see it is. Humans could not explain the world they lived in. Like what made the sunrise? Where did the wind come from? They came up with a bel in "God" God/Gods could explain a lot of the unkown. In fact. I believe life was so painful humans needed to believe in a "devine power" If I go to a church. That's what I see. A whole lot of people that need to believe life i better after death as long as they obey the "rules".
Hustler
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Steve
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The scientific notion that we humans are the culmination of billions of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled themselves into what we are sounds crazier than the idea we are the product of a divine architect.
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The scientific notion that we humans are the culmination of billions of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled themselves into what we are sounds crazier than the idea we are the product of a divine architect.
I think there is more to this world than we are able to sense (for instance, what we can see is only a fraction of the total EM spectrum), but as far as the belief in a God, that's something people take on faith because it hasn't
Moondog wrote to Hustler <=-
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to
this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The
scientific notion that we humans are the culmination of billions
of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled
themselves into what we are sounds crazier than the idea we are
the product of a divine architect.
Re: Doubts
By: Moondog to Hustler on Wed Apr 24 2019 10:40 am
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The scientific notion tha we humans are the culmination of billions of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled themselves into what we are sounds craz than the idea we are the product of a divine architect.
Only to those who don't understand how macroevolution works.
DaiTengu
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Hustler
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Steve
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to
this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The
scientific notion that we humans are the culmination of billions
of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled
themselves into what we are sounds crazier than the idea we are
the product of a divine architect.
Doesn't sound crazy to me. Evolution is pretty straightforward
and easily understood, by most.
Hustler wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to
this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The
scientific notion that we humans are the culmination of billions
of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled
themselves into what we are sounds crazier than the idea we are
the product of a divine architect.
Doesn't sound crazy to me. Evolution is pretty straightforward
and easily understood, by most.
Must one of those people that think very highly of themselves
and can't accept the fact that "All we are is dust in the wind"
(Kansas)
Hustler wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Another thing to consider is some people believe there is more to
this world than what we can see touch, or measure. The
scientific notion that we humans are the culmination of billions
of years of mutations and mistakes that somehow assembled
themselves into what we are sounds crazier than the idea we are
the product of a divine architect.
Doesn't sound crazy to me. Evolution is pretty straightforward
and easily understood, by most.
Must one of those people that think very highly of themselves
and can't accept the fact that "All we are is dust in the wind" (Kansas)
Heh. Like I said above, easily understood "by most"...
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As far as we know, we're the only sentient life in the universe, whether you believe you're here by accident or here by intelligent design. I can see how people on both sides can have a high opinion of themselves. The building blocks for life may be available elsewhere in the universe, but until we have a means to prove life is elsewhere, the existence of sentient life here is remarkable.
Re: Re: Doubts
By: Moondog to Dan Clough on Fri Apr 26 2019 08:57 am
As far as we know, we're the only sentient life in the universe, whethe you believe you're here by accident or here by intelligent design. I ca see how people on both sides can have a high opinion of themselves. The building blocks for life may be available elsewhere in the universe, bu until we have a means to prove life is elsewhere, the existence of sentient life here is remarkable.
I don't think we should assume we're the only sentient life in the universe just because we haven't seen it yet. It seems a little silly and premature come to that conclusion. The universe is huge, and as many stars, planets, entire galaxies we have observed, I think it's hard to believe we're the onl sentient life out there. It would be like early explorers here on Earth assuming their continent was the only continent that had people on it, befor sailing off to other continents.
Nightfox
On 04-26-19 13:01, Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
I don't think we should assume we're the only sentient life in the universe just because we haven't seen it yet. It seems a little silly
and premature to come to that conclusion. The universe is huge, and as many stars, planets, and entire galaxies we have observed, I think it's hard to believe we're the only sentient life out there. It would be
like early explorers here on Earth assuming their continent was the
only continent that had people on it, before sailing off to other continents.
In discussions like this I like to play devil's advocate and try to debate oth er side to encourage discussion. Personally, I lean more to the science side, but understand where the religious folks are coming from regarding our existence. It's strange how polarized the views are. One
Re: Re: Doubts
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sun Apr 28 2019 09:49 am
In discussions like this I like to play devil's advocate and try to deb oth er side to encourage discussion. Personally, I lean more to the science side, but understand where the religious folks are coming from regarding our existence. It's strange how polarized the views are. One
Even regarding the religious views, I don't think there's anything in the bi that specifically says we're the only intelligent life in the universe, is there? I think the bible just doesn't really talk about it, and only talks about us here on Earth.
I know it says something like in the beginning, God created the heavens and Earth and created humans, and I suppose you could interpret that as meaning we're the only intelligent life that was created, but it seems open to other interpretations too. I don't think it necessarily excludes intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
Nightfox
Only to those who don't understand how macroevolution works.Regardless how it works, I know quite a few people that understand the science, yet fail to believe our unique abilities that no other animal exhibits is by pure accident. Some of these people do not fall into the standard organized religion container, yet have concepts of supernatural existence and intelligent design.
"intelligent design"
More like "stupid design".
We have useless organs (appendix, male nipples, tailbone, wisdom teeth, etc.) that can kill us if they randomly become inflamed.
"intelligent design"they may perform. If not, they often don't hurt, unless they do become inflamed, as you mention. Though, I don't think I've ever heard of male nipples or wisdom teeth becoming inflamed.. Wisdom teeth can have their problems though - and I've heard some people don't even grow wisdom teeth
More like "stupid design".
We have useless organs (appendix, male nipples, tailbone, wisdom teeth,
We have useless organs (appendix, male nipples, tailbone, wisdom teeth, etc.) that can kill us if they randomly become inflamed.
I don't think we really know enough about them all to call them all useless. Sure, we could survive without them, but there is probably some function they may perform. If not, they often don't hurt, unless they do become inflamed, as you mention. Though, I don't think I've ever heard of male nipples or wisdom teeth becoming inflamed.. Wisdom teeth can have their problems though - and I've heard some people don't even grow wisdom teeth anymore.
Male breast cancer, rare as it might be, comes to mind as a detrimental effect of males having what is effectively useless tissue.
I never had wisdom teeth. Which was pretty convenient, as having them removed seems to be a miserable affair. I don't know if that's "evolution"
Re: Doubts
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Tue Apr 30 2019 09:58 am
"intelligent design"they may perform. If not, they often don't hurt, unless they do become inflamed, as you mention. Though, I don't think I've ever heard of male nipples or wisdom teeth becoming inflamed.. Wisdom teeth can have their problems though - and I've heard some people don't even grow wisdom teeth
More like "stupid design".
We have useless organs (appendix, male nipples, tailbone, wisdom tee
Hey.. All I wanna know is what came first??? The chicken or the egg ??
HusTler
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I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth removed when I was 24. I was prescribed pain medication, but from what I remember, I only took it once. I avoided getting sharp food back there for a while when I was eating, but other than that I think the recovery was okay. It wasn't miserable..
Re: Doubts
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Tue Apr 30 2019 09:58:04
We have useless organs (appendix, male nipples, tailbone, wisdom tee etc.) that can kill us if they randomly become inflamed.
I don't think we really know enough about them all to call them all usele Sure, we could survive without them, but there is probably some function they may perform. If not, they often don't hurt, unless they do become inflamed, as you mention. Though, I don't think I've ever heard of male nipples or wisdom teeth becoming inflamed.. Wisdom teeth can have their problems though - and I've heard some people don't even grow wisdom teeth anymore.
Male breast cancer, rare as it might be, comes to mind as a detrimental effe of males having what is effectively useless tissue.
I never had wisdom teeth. Which was pretty convenient, as having them remove seems to be a miserable affair. I don't know if that's "evolution" or just a random mutation or what. Back when, they were useful, because as you reached 20-ish your original teeth would be getting pretty worn down, so here's an extra set of molars to pick up the slack. This isn't really a consideration anymore, and since we don't lose teeth at the rate we did in the past, our j aren't really big enough to hold 'em all anymore.
Hey.. All I wanna know is what came first??? The chicken or the egg ??The Egg. It was laid by a proto-chicken.
Hey.. All I wanna know is what came first??? The chicken or the egg ??The egg, definitely the egg! DNA Evidence proved the egg came first. Not to mention Carbon Dating defintively proved that the first egg existed far before the first chicken was ever shot.
The egg. The chicken was a mutation of another egg laying species. In realit y, things that taste like chicken actually taste like T-RexOr Alligator, or Frog legs...
Re: Doubts
By: Moondog to Hustler on Tue May 14 2019 09:36 am
The egg. The chicken was a mutation of another egg laying species. In realit y, things that taste like chicken actually taste like T-RexOr Alligator, or Frog legs...
universe, is there? I think the bible just doesn't really talk about it, and only talks about us here on Earth.
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