Iran better choose their choose their actions with extremecalculation, and
must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
altogether.Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation, and must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
The US cannot afford yet another war ...
As a matter of fact, the US should've stayed out of the Middle East
Thousands of America's finest, such as e.g. Jimmy Regan to name justone, would
still be alive.one of
The whole thingh about those "heroes that died to keep America safe" is
the greatest all-time hoaxes, but the worst thing about it all is thereis a
whole population that buys it.
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Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation, and must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
The US cannot afford yet another war ...
As a matter of fact, the US should've stayed out of the Middle Eastaltogether.
Thousands of America's finest, such as e.g. Jimmy Regan to name justone, would
still be alive.one of
The whole thing about those "heroes that died to keep America safe" is
the greatest all-time hoaxes, but the worst thing about it all is thereis a
whole population that buys it.
On 21 May 2019, Ward Dossche said the following...calculation
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme
Presidentand must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the
tweets.
The US cannot afford yet another war ...
The U.S. has one of the biggest, if not the biggest military budget on the planet.
Honestly, I don't think we had much business in WWI or the European Theatre of WWII, either. Focusing our efforts in WWII on the Japanese, who hadbombed
us, would have made more sense and probably cost us a lot less.
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extremecalculation, and
must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
Maybe. But I hope nothing happens there
Honestly, I don't think we had much business in WWI or the European Theatre of WWII, either. Focusing our efforts in WWII on the Japanese, who had bombed us, would have made more sense and probably cost us a lot less.
Hollywood needed some plots for new movies ...
Hollywood needed some plots for new movies ...
I am sure that the Pacific Theater could have given them plenty more storylines, with the beauty of the South Pacific and all.
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation, and
must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
Hollywood needed some plots for new movies ...
I am sure that the Pacific Theater could have given them plenty more >MP>storylines, with the beauty of the South Pacific and all.
Not really because such movies do not sell well in Japan.
When I met my Japanese friend in 1973, he was largely ignorant about Japan's
role in WW2 (and prior to that in China). It wasn't being talked about.
And I remember when in 1995 visiting the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl
Harbor the large groups of Japanese tourists visiting there knowing they
were going to visit the wreck of a large ship that exploded there but
having no clue about the "why".
Movies about the war in Europe sell better, the Japanese know the Nazis were
bad business, even the Germans hate the Nazis.
Hello Greg,
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation, a
must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
Do you honestly believe anybody pays any attention to
the presidents tweets? The democratically elected leader
of Venezuela certainly doesn't. And neither does the tinhorn
dictator of North Korea. Or the democratically elected leader
of Russia. Or the president-for-life of China. So what makes
you think the mullahs of Iran pay any attention?
I agree with most of your post, but I have to point out that Hitler
declared war on the US on Dec 11, 1941. Hitler was also sinking US ships that were carrying supplies to Britain.
Note that Roosevelt minor had the US Navy involved in World War II long before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. The "Greer Incident," where
the US destroyer Greer was fired on by a U-Boat, occurred because the
Greer had detected the U-Boat and radioed for British aircraft (from
Canada) to come and bomb it. The U-Boat captain had no idea who'd
dropped the bomb/depth charges and the only ship around was the Greer.
This sort of thing was quite common in 1940-1941
I agree with most of your post, but I have to point out that Hitler >>declared war on the US on Dec 11, 1941. Hitler was also sinking US ships >>that were carrying supplies to Britain.
True but, if the US had also not been involved in WWI, I am wondering if
the attitude towards the US would have been different. Germany was
destroyed by the concessions they made during their WWI surrender. To an >extent, I feel like they were out for revenge against all of the countries >that put them in that position.
Still, with the U-boats patrolling the whole North Atlantic (and likely,
the Gulf of Mexico), conflict of some degree was inevitable, as you noted >below.
Note that Roosevelt minor had the US Navy involved in World War II long >>before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. The "Greer Incident," where
the US destroyer Greer was fired on by a U-Boat, occurred because the
Greer had detected the U-Boat and radioed for British aircraft (from >>Canada) to come and bomb it. The U-Boat captain had no idea who'd
dropped the bomb/depth charges and the only ship around was the Greer.
This sort of thing was quite common in 1940-1941
The US was also secretly involved supporting China against Japan long
before Pearl Harbor. WWII actually started in 1937 when Japan escalated >their aggressions against China by invading Shanghai and other areas. The
US supported China with supplies and, I believe, volunteers (like The
Flying Tigers).
Many believe that Pearl Harbor was unprovoked, but I have often wondered if
Japan did not figure out that the US was not being as neutral as we claimed to be.
LL> >Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation, a
LL> > must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains
LL> > Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
LL>
LL> Do you honestly believe anybody pays any attention to
LL> the presidents tweets? The democratically elected leader
LL> of Venezuela certainly doesn't. And neither does the tinhorn
LL> dictator of North Korea. Or the democratically elected leader
LL> of Russia. Or the president-for-life of China. So what makes
LL> you think the mullahs of Iran pay any attention?
He got someone's attention in Iran, they are not firing any more rockets
into
Iraq nor are they attacking the U.S. Forces in the waterways that is close
to
Iran. They got the message that if attacked The United States will end you.
Hello Greg,
LL> >Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation, a
LL> > must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains
LL> > Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweet
LL>
LL> Do you honestly believe anybody pays any attention to
LL> the presidents tweets? The democratically elected leader
LL> of Venezuela certainly doesn't. And neither does the tinhorn
LL> dictator of North Korea. Or the democratically elected leader
LL> of Russia. Or the president-for-life of China. So what makes
LL> you think the mullahs of Iran pay any attention?
that is closeHe got someone's attention in Iran, they are not firing any more rockets
into LL> >Iraq nor are they attacking the U.S. Forces in the waterways
to
Iran. They got the message that if attacked The United States will end yo
You may not be aware of this, but Trump ordered 4 out of our 5
aircraft carriers to enter inside the Persian Gulf, in an effort
to intimidate Iran.
Iran does have missiles capable of sinking an aircraft carrier,
along with underwater torpedoes. What do you think the reaction
would be if just one of our aircraft carriers was hit, or sunk?
You are talking 5,000+ dead American sailors.
This would be a debacle, much worse than the events of 9-11.
On 22 May 2019, BOB ACKLEY said the following...curtains
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extremecalculation, and
must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be
Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
Maybe. But I hope nothing happens there
That would depend how suicidal the Iranian Government is.
I agree with most of your post, but I have to point out that Hitler declared war on the US on Dec 11, 1941. Hitler was also sinking US ships that were carrying supplies to Britain.
True but, if the US had also not been involved in WWI, I am wondering if
the attitude towards the US would have been different. Germany was
destroyed by the concessions they made during their WWI surrender. To an extent, I feel like they were out for revenge against all of the countries that put them in that position.
That would depend how suicidal the Iranian Government is.
That the US military could destroy the Iranian government is a given.
But it would cost one h*ll of a lot of lives (on both sides), and the
Iran will try probably succeed to some extent - to make it a war of the US Islam, and ALL Islamics are required by their religion to respond to any attack.
You may not be aware of this, but Trump ordered 4 out of our 5
aircraft carriers to enter inside the Persian Gulf, in an effort
to intimidate Iran.
More of like message written in big block style letters, lets call it a
strong persuasion that says Peace through Strength.
Iran does have missiles capable of sinking an aircraft carrier,
along with underwater torpedoes. What do you think the reaction
would be if just one of our aircraft carriers was hit, or sunk?
You are talking 5,000+ dead American sailors.
It would be suicidal to attack the U.S. forces.
It would be a mis-calulation, that would cost them their very existence.
Iran would be nothing more then a memory.
This would be a debacle, much worse than the events of 9-11.
Nothing is worse then 9-11
Hello Greg,
[..]
You may not be aware of this, but Trump ordered 4 out of our 5 >LL>aircraft carriers to enter inside the Persian Gulf, in an effort >LL>to intimidate Iran.
More of like message written in big block style letters, lets call it a
strong persuasion that says Peace through Strength.
That did not work out so well in Afghanistan, where we are still
stuck with no way to get out. That also did not work out so well
in Iraq, which continues to be a snake pit. We need another war
in that area of the world like we need a hole in the head.
Iran does have missiles capable of sinking an aircraft carrier, >LL>along with underwater torpedoes. What do you think the reaction >LL>would be if just one of our aircraft carriers was hit, or sunk? >LL>You are talking 5,000+ dead American sailors.
It would be suicidal to attack the U.S. forces.
Osama bin Laden and his merry group of al-Qaeda did it for years.
GWB allowed him and his merry men to escape Afghanistan. Thank
goodness we had a man from Kenya who saved our ass by actually
having the balls to "terminate with extreme prejudice" that piece
of shit.
It would be a mis-calulation, that would cost them their very existence.
Iran would be nothing more then a memory.
Would it? Jimmy Carter got our embassy personnel home safe and sound, without resorting to war with Iran. How many American lives is Trump willing to waste by going to war with Iran for no reason?
There is a sunken German U-boat just off the coast of Grand Isle,
Louisiana. I was invited to take part in a scuba expedition to try
to salvage parts. But the German government stopped us from doing
so, claiming it was protected by international law, being a gravesite
for those who had perished. Whether there was gold bullion inside
or not, we never were able to find out ...
The US was also secretly involved supporting China against Japan long >before Pearl Harbor. WWII actually started in 1937 when Japan escalated >their aggressions against China by invading Shanghai and other areas. The
US supported China with supplies and, I believe, volunteers (like The Flying Tigers).
Unfortunately, the US supported the wrong China, refusing to
recognize the other China as legitimate. It took Jimmy Carter
to change that, many decades later.
In Japan's view, it was just a warning to the US to stay out of
the Pacific. A limited strike by Japanese military on a US military installation in a US territory, not on civilian targets or in the
mainland USA. A pinprick, which the Japanese military leadership
calculated would be enough to convince FDR to stay out.
The outcry among the American public forced FDR and the Congress
to accept the reality that the US was in a war, started by the
Empire of Japan. Leaving no choice for FDR and the Congress but
to do what none of them were brave enough to do themselves.
True but, if the US had also not been involved in WWI, I am wondering if the attitude towards the US would have been different. Germany was destroyed by the concessions they made during their WWI surrender. To an extent, I feel like they were out for revenge against all of the countries that put them in that position.
Actually, what happened is that the German goverment continued its
generous social spending programs after WW I. Unfortunately the war reparations demanded by the Allies pretty much destroyed the German
economy. In about 1922 or 1923 the German economy collapsed due to
rampant (100 percent per DAY) inflation, and with it went the German government. That provided an avenue for Hitler to get into power.
Would it? Jimmy Carter got our embassy personnel home safe and sound, without resorting to war with Iran. How many American lives is Trump
willing to waste by going to war with Iran for no reason?
Would it? Jimmy Carter got our embassy personnel home safe and sound, without resorting to war with Iran. How many American lives is Trump willing to waste by going to war with Iran for no reason?
No he did not.
Would it? Jimmy Carter got our embassy personnel home safe and sound, >>without resorting to war with Iran. How many American lives is Trump >>willing to waste by going to war with Iran for no reason?
No he did not.
Would it? Jimmy Carter got our embassy personnel home safe and sound, >>without resorting to war with Iran. How many American lives is Trump >>willing to waste by going to war with Iran for no reason?
No he did not.
longThe US was also secretly involved supporting China against Japan
before Pearl Harbor.
onlyUnfortunately, the US supported the wrong China, refusing to
recognize the other China as legitimate. It took Jimmy Carter
to change that, many decades later.
Not back then. They had been in a Civil War, but had set aside their differences to join together to fight the Japanese. There was still
one China until later.getting
In Japan's view, it was just a warning to the US to stay out of
the Pacific. A limited strike by Japanese military on a US military installation in a US territory, not on civilian targets or in the
mainland USA. A pinprick, which the Japanese military leadership calculated would be enough to convince FDR to stay out.
I have always found that odd, since we did not seem too keen on
involved. They really miscalculated there.
The outcry among the American public forced FDR and the Congress
to accept the reality that the US was in a war, started by the
Empire of Japan. Leaving no choice for FDR and the Congress but
to do what none of them were brave enough to do themselves.
No disagreement there.
Mike
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wondering ifTrue but, if the US had also not been involved in WWI, I am
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surrender. To andestroyed by the concessions they made during their WWI
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reparations).that put them in that position.
Actually, what happened is that the German goverment continued its
generous social spending programs after WW I. Unfortunately the war reparations demanded by the Allies pretty much destroyed the German economy. In about 1922 or 1923 the German economy collapsed due to
rampant (100 percent per DAY) inflation, and with it went the German government. That provided an avenue for Hitler to get into power.
IIRC, Hitler blamed the German government (for the social programs and
other spending habits) and the WWI allies (for the crippling
Either way, if the US had not been involved, he might not have been so willing to drag the US into the European conflict. Then again, hisleaders
paranoia might have lead him to do so anyway. When you deal with
that are not in their right minds, who knows?
Hello Greg,
[..]
You may not be aware of this, but Trump ordered 4 out of our 5 >LL>aircraft carriers to enter inside the Persian Gulf, in an effort >LL>to intimidate Iran.
More of like message written in big block style letters, lets call it a
strong persuasion that says Peace through Strength.
That did not work out so well in Afghanistan, where we are still
stuck with no way to get out. That also did not work out so well
in Iraq, which continues to be a snake pit. We need another war
in that area of the world like we need a hole in the head.
Iran does have missiles capable of sinking an aircraft carrier, >LL>along with underwater torpedoes. What do you think the reaction >LL>would be if just one of our aircraft carriers was hit, or sunk? >LL>You are talking 5,000+ dead American sailors.
It would be suicidal to attack the U.S. forces.
Osama bin Laden and his merry group of al-Qaeda did it for years.
GWB allowed him and his merry men to escape Afghanistan. Thank
goodness we had a man from Kenya who saved our ass by actually
having the balls to "terminate with extreme prejudice" that piece
of shit.
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation,
and must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be
curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the Presidents tweets.
Iran better choose their choose their actions with extreme calculation and must don't attack any American military, if they do it will be curtains for Iran. Permanently I am afraid.... According the President tweets.
The US cannot afford yet another war ...
As a matter of fact, the US should've stayed out of the Middle East altogether. Thousands of America's finest, such as e.g. Jimmy Regan to name just one, would still be alive.
The whole thingh about those "heroes that died to keep America safe" is
one of the greatest all-time hoaxes, but the worst thing about it all is there is a whole population that buys it.
The US cannot afford yet another war ...
The U.S. has one of the biggest, if not the biggest military budget on
the planet.
That is what makes them the finest, their wiliness to serve.
The hero nomenclature comes when they carry out their orders as well as acts of valor.
The U.S. forces are in Iraq helping the Iraqis to stand on their own to feet (militarily speaking).
America's quarrel is not with people of Iran, but with it's Government,
who chant who chant Death to America, and brainwash others to do the
same.
Just as he canceled the Iran deal
which was the right thing to do.
The whole thingh about those "heroes that died to keep America safe" is one of the greatest all-time hoaxes, but the worst thing about it all is there is a whole population that buys it.
The situation in Iran was caused by US meddling in Iranian affairs when the Sjha was still the dictator overthere. Your country, laid the groundwork for Khomeini. Your country also altered Iraq from a very modern western country with women predominently present into a country from the 14th century.
Honestly, I don't think we had much business in WWI or the European
Theatre of WWII, either. Focusing our efforts in WWII on the Japanese,
who had bombed us, would have made more sense and probably cost us a lot less.
On 05-27-19 13:11, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Iran <=-
Would it? Jimmy Carter got our embassy personnel home safe and sound, without resorting to war with Iran.
No he did not.
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