Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-
Hello Everybody,
Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,
but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an
armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
--Lee
Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,
but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an >LL>armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?
If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would
say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people
riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?
His "supporters" are defending themselves.
I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people.
Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING
they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Hello Dennis,
Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,
but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an
armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?
I want Trump to do his fucking job!
"The job of a president is to tell it straight from the shoulder, tell
the truth, to be candid, to face facts, to lead, not to insight. That's why I'm speaking to you today. The incumbant president is incapable of telling us the truth, incapable of facing the facts and incapable of healing. He doesn't want to shed light, he wants to generate heat and
he's stroking violence in our cities.
"This is a tragic fact of the matter, how he's dealing with this
perilous hour in our nation. And now we have to stand against violence
in every form it takes. Violence we've seen again and again and again,
of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force, seven bullets in the
back of Jacob Blake. Knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of
Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and opportunists, right wing militias... And to derail any hope and support for progress, the senseless violence of looting and burning and destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, so I'm
going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of
this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who
do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will
only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way. It divides instead
of unites, destroys businesses, only hurts the working families that
serve the community. It makes things worse across the board, not
better."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would
say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people
riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?
Joe Biden has condemned *all* acts of violence. It is time for
Donald Trump to do the same.
His "supporters" are defending themselves.
Two rights do not make a wrong. As Joe Biden noted so clearly
in his message. Do pay attention.
I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people.
Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.
Worked for Bull Connor. And his dogs. What we have today is a
new George Wallace. Only this one is in the White HOuse, rather
than the Alabama governor's mansion.
--Lee
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Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Hello Dennis,
Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,
but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an
armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?
I want Trump to do his fucking job!
"The job of a president is to tell it straight from the shoulder, tell
the truth, to be candid, to face facts, to lead, not to insight. That's why I'm speaking to you today. The incumbant president is incapable of telling us the truth, incapable of facing the facts and incapable of healing. He doesn't want to shed light, he wants to generate heat and
he's stroking violence in our cities.
"This is a tragic fact of the matter, how he's dealing with this
perilous hour in our nation. And now we have to stand against violence
in every form it takes. Violence we've seen again and again and again,
of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force, seven bullets in the
back of Jacob Blake. Knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of
Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and opportunists, right wing militias... And to derail any hope and support for progress, the senseless violence of looting and burning and destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, so I'm
going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of
this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who
do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will
only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way. It divides instead
of unites, destroys businesses, only hurts the working families that
serve the community. It makes things worse across the board, not
better."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would
say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people
riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?
Joe Biden has condemned *all* acts of violence. It is time for
Donald Trump to do the same.
His "supporters" are defending themselves.
Two rights do not make a wrong. As Joe Biden noted so clearly
in his message. Do pay attention.
I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people.
Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.
Worked for Bull Connor. And his dogs. What we have today is a
new George Wallace. Only this one is in the White HOuse, rather
than the Alabama governor's mansion.
--Lee
Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong, >>LL>but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an >>LL>armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?
I want Trump to do his fucking job!
"The job of a president is to tell it straight from the shoulder, tell >LL> the truth, to be candid, to face facts, to lead, not to insight. That's >LL> why I'm speaking to you today. The incumbant president is incapable of >LL> telling us the truth, incapable of facing the facts and incapable of
healing. He doesn't want to shed light, he wants to generate heat and
he's stroking violence in our cities.
"This is a tragic fact of the matter, how he's dealing with this
perilous hour in our nation. And now we have to stand against violence >LL> in every form it takes. Violence we've seen again and again and again, >LL> of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force, seven bullets in the
back of Jacob Blake. Knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of
Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and
opportunists, right wing militias... And to derail any hope and support >LL> for progress, the senseless violence of looting and burning and
destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, so I'm
going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting.
Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of
this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who
do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will
only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way. It divides instead
of unites, destroys businesses, only hurts the working families that
serve the community. It makes things worse across the board, not
better."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would >>say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people >>riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?
Joe Biden has condemned *all* acts of violence. It is time for
Donald Trump to do the same.
His "supporters" are defending themselves.
Two rights do not make a wrong. As Joe Biden noted so clearly
in his message. Do pay attention.
I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people. >>Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING >>they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.
Worked for Bull Connor. And his dogs. What we have today is a
new George Wallace. Only this one is in the White HOuse, rather
than the Alabama governor's mansion.
What we are seeing in the USA is the emergence of a new, totalitarian belief
system, disguisnig itself as being for justice.
IT is a time old pattern, where the new moral order proclaims itself as
being for justice, fairness, while it bullies people into submission.
Cancel culture is the most evident manifestation of this insidious
ideology.
Rioting is not protesting, I agree, but Biden's missing the point here.
They are NOT trying to protest.
They are trying to exercise power over others.
The Democrats will never admit this,
because too many in the party (perhaps not Biden, I'll give him the benefit
of the doubt),
don't have an issue with this new emerging cultural fascism.
This isn't about George Floyd. This is about an ideology that has been
percolating for years, and is now seizing this opportunity to suppress and bully.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Hello Dennis,
Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,
but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an
armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?
I want Trump to do his fucking job!
"The job of a president is to tell it straight from the shoulder, tell
the truth, to be candid, to face facts, to lead, not to insight. That's
why I'm speaking to you today. The incumbant president is incapable of
telling us the truth, incapable of facing the facts and incapable of
healing. He doesn't want to shed light, he wants to generate heat and
he's stroking violence in our cities.
"This is a tragic fact of the matter, how he's dealing with this
perilous hour in our nation. And now we have to stand against violence
in every form it takes. Violence we've seen again and again and again,
of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force, seven bullets in the
back of Jacob Blake. Knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of
Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and
opportunists, right wing militias... And to derail any hope and support
for progress, the senseless violence of looting and burning and
destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, so I'm
going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting.
Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of
this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who
do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will
only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way. It divides instead
of unites, destroys businesses, only hurts the working families that
serve the community. It makes things worse across the board, not
better."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020
If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would
say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people
riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?
Joe Biden has condemned *all* acts of violence. It is time for
Donald Trump to do the same.
His "supporters" are defending themselves.
Two rights do not make a wrong. As Joe Biden noted so clearly
in his message. Do pay attention.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Caught you sleeping. :)
I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people.
Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING
they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.
Worked for Bull Connor. And his dogs. What we have today is a
new George Wallace. Only this one is in the White HOuse, rather
than the Alabama governor's mansion.
What we are seeing in the USA is the emergence of a new, totalitarian belief
system, disguisnig itself as being for justice.
This is nothing new. George Wallace did the same in Alabama.
Lester Maddox did the same in Georgia. Other governors did the
same in other states.
There were times when fascism did occur on a national level in
this country. But nothing on the level as it is today.
IT is a time old pattern, where the new moral order proclaims itself as
being for justice, fairness, while it bullies people into submission.
Cancel culture is the most evident manifestation of this insidious
ideology.
There is nothing moral about fascism. It can be disguised in many
ways, even with a smile. But there is nothing moral about it.
Rioting is not protesting, I agree, but Biden's missing the point here.
Rioting is an act of violencce. Biden condemned all acts of violence.
That includes rioting. Do pay attention.
They are NOT trying to protest.
And Biden condemned all who committed acts of violence. Including
those who pretend to protest by commmitting acts of violence. You
really do need to pay attention.
They are trying to exercise power over others.
By committing acts of violence, which Biden condemned.
It really isn't that hard to understand. Do pay attention
to what the man said.
The Democrats will never admit this,
Biden did. Quite loudly. For all to hear. But you weren't listening.
Or bothering to pay attention.
because too many in the party (perhaps not Biden, I'll give him the benefit
of the doubt),
What doubt? I quoted his own words, verboten. Nobody in his party disagreed with anything he said. And many Republicans and Independents also agreed with his comments. Especially his comments condemning all
acts of violence.
don't have an issue with this new emerging cultural fascism.
The vast majority of people in this country have a real issue
with Trump's fascist ideology, and want him and his cronies to go
away. Problem is, after he loses the election (assuming there is
an election) his army of Trumpers might decide to burn the entire
country, proclaiming "Trump is always right!"
This isn't about George Floyd. This is about an ideology that has been
percolating for years, and is now seizing this opportunity to suppress and bully.
Trump is not the cause, but the symptom. Biden is the anti-Trump,
but not the solution to all this country's problems.
It will take more, much more, to cure America of its sickness.
On 09-04-20 12:02, Dennis Katsonis <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Weakling <=-
As is his right to do so. But everyone is "against
violence". So is Trump.
Dale Shipp wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
On 09-04-20 12:02, Dennis Katsonis <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Weakling <=-
As is his right to do so. But everyone is "against
violence". So is Trump.
Except that Trump has done a lot to incite and encourage violence. Why
is that?
Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)
As is his right to do so. But everyone is "against
violence". So is Trump.
Except that Trump has done a lot to incite and encourage violence. Why
is that?
On 09-05-20 09:43, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Weakling <=-
As is his right to do so. But everyone is "against
violence". So is Trump.
Except that Trump has done a lot to incite and encourage violence. Why
is that?
So you have said, ok?
What has Trump done to incite and encourage violence?
Forget the ideology about people for a moment, and just look at the ACTIONS.
If you look at the ACTIONS of people, you'll realise why when I say "fascist
is as fascist does", that I think the regressive left is the biggest
threat.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Hello Dennis,
[..]
Forget the ideology about people for a moment, and just look at the ACTIONS.
Really?
If you look at the ACTIONS of people, you'll realise why when I say "fascist
is as fascist does", that I think the regressive left is the biggest
threat.
"Trumpism is a fascistic enterprise. It stands apart from and is antithetical to American values. Trumpism will not yield and retreat
when faced with passive denial around what it clearly is. Trumpism has long teemed with menace and violence. Trump has encouraged the violence and celebrated it. He has legitimized it in tandem with his apologists, accomplices and enablers. They have collectively poisoned the country
with a toxic media stew of Conspiracy, propaganda, lies, grievance, malice, nationalism and racial animus.
A 17 year old was radicalized by Trumpism. He drove to Wisconsin and became a killer. He is celebrated today as some type of martyr across
the the airwaves of extreme media. Who will he inspire next? Trump is fomenting chaos and violence in the name of law and order.
A President's duty is to calm the boiling passions of the moment as
they yield to a new understanding of American justice and inclusion
under the idea that in this land we are all created equal and that
the promise of the country must be for everybody. Trump is inciting Americans against each other in the name of expanding his power. It
isn't just cynical, it is evil."
~ Steve Schmidt, former Republican and proud of it, 9/3/2020
Seems like Republicans disagree with your POV, along with Democrats
and Independents. Gonna be a fun night on Tuesday, November 3.
--Lee
"Trumpism is a fascistic enterprise. It stands apart from and is >LL>antithetical to American values. Trumpism will not yield and retreat
the promise of the country must be for everybody. Trump is inciting >LL>Americans against each other in the name of expanding his power. It >LL>isn't just cynical, it is evil."
~ Steve Schmidt, former Republican and proud of it, 9/3/2020
Seems like Republicans disagree with your POV, along with Democrats
and Independents. Gonna be a fun night on Tuesday, November 3.
To be honest, I don't care what the Republican party thinks, and why you do
is beyond me.
Up until 2016, when the Democratic party thought that Hillary would be a
good president, I would have (if I was a US citizen) not wanted to vote Republican.
I'm not a US citizen, but I'm just saying, that if I was in the US, I
couldn't have voted for the party of McCain or Romney, and I would have preferred to see them lose.
The Republican party doesn't represent the interests of working Americans,
it hasn't for a long time.
Pooh to them I say!
Must be desperate if we are referring to the opinions of Republican party
hacks now.
What is Trumpism anyway?
it has become nothing more than a polite fiction. What Republicans are voting for is dictatorship under Trump & Co.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Hello Dennis,
[..]
"Trumpism is a fascistic enterprise. It stands apart from and is
antithetical to American values. Trumpism will not yield and retreat
[..]
the promise of the country must be for everybody. Trump is inciting
Americans against each other in the name of expanding his power. It
isn't just cynical, it is evil."
~ Steve Schmidt, former Republican and proud of it, 9/3/2020
Seems like Republicans disagree with your POV, along with Democrats
and Independents. Gonna be a fun night on Tuesday, November 3.
To be honest, I don't care what the Republican party thinks, and why you do
is beyond me.
Steve Schmidt is a former Republican, having left the party in 2018.
He is the person who ran John McCain's campaign for president in 2008. Today he is an Independent, as many other Republicans have also left
the party. I am not affiliated with any political party, and choose
to remain so.
Up until 2016, when the Democratic party thought that Hillary would be a
good president, I would have (if I was a US citizen) not wanted to vote Republican.
Although some Democrats did vote for Trump in 2016, many of those
same Democrats regret having done so. Will they vote for Biden? Or
will they choose not to vote at all? That is the question.
As for Republicans, their Republican Party no longer exists. Today
it has become nothing more than a polite fiction. What Republicans are voting for is dictatorship under Trump & Co.
I'm not a US citizen, but I'm just saying, that if I was in the US, I
couldn't have voted for the party of McCain or Romney, and I would have preferred to see them lose.
You got your wish in 2008, when Barack Obama won.
And again in 2012, when Barack Obama did it a second time.
The Republican party doesn't represent the interests of working Americans,
it hasn't for a long time.
Republicans holding office represent the interests of Donald Trump,
not the interests of the American people.
Pooh to them I say!
And those who continue to support them.
Must be desperate if we are referring to the opinions of Republican party
hacks now.
Steve Schmidt is not a Republican. After he left the party, he
decided to have some fun, founding The Lincoln Project.
Republican party hacks hate him for that. So does Donald Trump.
What is Trumpism anyway?
A death cult.
I mean, seriously, you are posting here, under your REAL name, calling Trum leader of a death cult, a fascist, that he needs to go, and are free to do without consequence. AS IS EVERYONE ELSE. If you really WERE living under fascist regime, you would dissapear, or suddenly find yourself imposed upon be threatened, or your family threatened, or as happened in Communist Russi if you were lucky, only moved to a crapper job or lost your residence. Non that is happening. It is ONLY the Cancel Culture mob doing that. For that reason, I call BS on your claim.
You guys are worked up over very little and seem to be overreacting. He's boorish, but not a disaster.
I keep in touch with a few people in the USA, and none of them have noted any new fascistic laws or impositions from the government.
Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-any
You guys are worked up over very little and seem to be overreacting. He's boorish, but not a disaster.
Donald Trump's administration is a disaster.
I keep in touch with a few people in the USA, and none of them have noted
new fascistic laws or impositions from the government.
There is a new secret police working in the USA today. They do not identify themselves and simply wisk poeple away. This is fascistic and against American law and the constitution.
Donald Trump claims that crime/murder rates in cities where these
police have been deployed has been lowered but like so much of what
Donald Trump says the facts tell a different story.
it has become nothing more than a polite fiction. What Republicans are >LL>voting for is dictatorship under Trump & Co.
We're voting for Trump policy.
It's not a dictatorship.
The Republican party is a lot more united than you want it to be.
Nobody has argued with Trump's policy or actions,
from our end, with the exception of 2 immature idiots who feel hurt because
they lost their elections.
I was proud to hear George W. Bush say that reports of him endorsing Biden
were completely false.
I bet that even Jeb Bush will at least vote for Trump.
No living Republican (except for Mitt) is endorsing Biden.
At least not any living federal Republicans.
Steve Schmidt is a former Republican, having left the party in 2018.
He is the person who ran John McCain's campaign for president in 2008. >LL>Today he is an Independent, as many other Republicans have also left >LL>the party. I am not affiliated with any political party, and choose
to remain so.
Well there you go, someone who thought McCain would be a good president!
Would you in 10 years time, old highly the opinion of someone who ran Trumps
campaign?
He's changed his views maybe, I don't know.
I don't really care, its one opinion and I don't know what his motives are.
If we are talking of a politician here, the motives are likely self-serving.
Up until 2016, when the Democratic party thought that Hillary would be a >>good president, I would have (if I was a US citizen) not wanted to vote >>Republican.
Although some Democrats did vote for Trump in 2016, many of those
same Democrats regret having done so. Will they vote for Biden? Or
will they choose not to vote at all? That is the question.
As for Republicans, their Republican Party no longer exists. Today
it has become nothing more than a polite fiction. What Republicans are >LL>voting for is dictatorship under Trump & Co.
I agree it has changed dramatically. I can't see the dictatorship though.
You know, here in Melbourne, Australia, we are subject to curfews and the
harshest lockdown.
We don't have constitutional freedom of speech, or the same right to bear
arms.
People go on and on about this fascistic dictatorship, but I can't see what
rights and freedoms you have actually LOST.
What freedom has Trump taken from you that you had under Obama?
The only thing I see is that you are less free to hold an opinion which >contradicts orthodoxy, but I don't see Trump destroying the lives of people
who hold these opinions, but others. I see Big Tech censorship, companies firing people, cancel culture, things which affect the population at large.
Please enlightenment how Trump is limiting your movement speech or action?
I'm not a US citizen, but I'm just saying, that if I was in the US, I >>couldn't have voted for the party of McCain or Romney, and I would have >>preferred to see them lose.
You got your wish in 2008, when Barack Obama won.
And again in 2012, when Barack Obama did it a second time.
I didn't wish for Obama to win, as I'm not a US citizen it doesn't affect me
to greatly. Also, not wanting one candidate to win doesn't mean you wish
the
other would. If I was a voter, I would have preferred a candidate who is a >cross between Nader and Buchanan, perhaps more Nader than Buchanan. But
McCain was in my mind unfit and dangerous.
The Republican party doesn't represent the interests of working Americans, >>it hasn't for a long time.
Republicans holding office represent the interests of Donald Trump,
not the interests of the American people.
Both parties act in a self-serving manner.
Pooh to them I say!
And those who continue to support them.
Must be desperate if we are referring to the opinions of Republican party >>hacks now.
Steve Schmidt is not a Republican. After he left the party, he
decided to have some fun, founding The Lincoln Project.
Republican party hacks hate him for that. So does Donald Trump.
What is Trumpism anyway?
A death cult.
You guys are worked up over very little and seem to be overreacting. He's >boorish, but not a disaster. I keep in touch with a few people in the USA,
and none of them have noted any new fascistic laws or impositions from the
government.
I mean, seriously, you are posting here, under your REAL name, calling Trump
a leader of a death cult, a fascist, that he needs to go, and are free to
do so without consequence.
AS IS EVERYONE ELSE.
If you really WERE living under a fascist regime, you would dissapear, or
suddenly find yourself imposed upon, or be threatened, or your family threatened, or as happened in Communist Russia, if you were lucky, only
moved to a crapper job or lost your residence.
None of that is happening. It is ONLY the Cancel Culture mob doing that.
For that reason, I call BS on your claim.
Get a grip.
I've heard about vans whisking people away, but not much more than rumours.
I've heard a lot of rumours, about Trump supposedly removing mailboxes, which turned out not to be what is claimed.
Who has dissappeared?
We're voting for Trump policy.
Trumpers are not voting for Trump due to whatever "policy" he has,
as he has no policy.
I don't know or think anyone has dissapeared. Being a new and secret police not much is known about them currently.
I don't know or think anyone has dissapeared. Being a new and secret police >> not much is known about them currently.
That sounds like science fiction. Which news station is pushing that garbage story?
I mean, seriously, you are posting here ... For that reason, DK>I call BSon your claim.
Awesome! Clearly thought out & well said. People in the USA are spoiled and
derranged. If you're ever buying a gift for an American, make sure it's PERFECT because if not they will cry about minor details :)
Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
There is a new secret police working in the USA today.
They do not identify themselves and simply wisk poeple away.
This is fascistic and against American law and the constitution.
Donald Trump claims that crime/murder rates in cities where these
police have been deployed has been lowered but like so much of what
Donald Trump says the facts tell a different story.
Perfect gift?
Here's to you. Made of pure, unadulterated, bull sh*t.
There is a new secret police working in the USA today.
Yes. It's called Antifa and it's a branch of the Democrat party.
They do not identify themselves and simply wisk poeple away.
This is Leftie Narrative. The facts say those people had clear law enforcement markings. The cars may not have been marked, but unmarked
police cars have been around for a long, long time.
This is fascistic and against American law and the constitution.
Yes, it is. And if you vote Democrat, you are voting for the people who
are facists (actually look up the meaning of "facism" before using it)
and who are against law and the Constitution.
Perfect gift?
Here's to you. Made of pure, unadulterated, bull sh*t.
Come on Lee, I'm eating my breakfast!! :(
Antifa has no place within the Democrat party. Fascism is exactly what is happening in the US today under Donald Trump. I wouldn't call it Democrat o Rupublican but it has found a place in Donald Trumps America.
Please educate us
about the horrors of fascism in Trump's America with some real good factual studies for all of us deplorable-types to review in detail.
Please educate yourself, I don't expect you or anyone else to take my word anything.
about the horrors of fascism in Trump's America with some real good factual studies for all of us deplorable-types to review in detail.
Why do you bring up deplorable types?
Please educate yourself, I don't expect you or anyone else to take my word >> anything.
I have studied, on both conservative and liberal sites since 2016, and am not seeing any evidence of fascism you speak of...
Why do you bring up deplorable types?
Study Hillary Clinton soundbites, maybe obtain exerpts from her book and you are echoing her exact words, right down to "Trump's America".
Antifa has no place within the Democrat party. Fascism is exactly what is happening in the US today under Donald Trump. I wouldn't call it Democrat o Rupublican but it has found a place in Donald Trumps America.
All the negative Trump coverage seems really fake to me. I still haven't heard >anyone tell me a single thing that Trump has done wrong. They say stuff, but I
just don't see any of it as wrong.
The federal government (Trump/USCongress/USSenate/USSupreme Court) makes decisions that the whole country has to live by, but when Nancy Pelosi
has a campaign built on "Screw Trump," then how is he supposed to negotiate with her? She knows his phone number, but his phone ain't ringing. She refuses to cooperate on a "2nd stimulus payment" to help the middle class with the economic burdon resulting from coronavirus.
Americans are hungry for that money! And Trump is ready to serve it
up,
but there's no way Nancy's gonna let Trump have that type of victory 2
months away from election day.
Your dream of hanging out with Robert Deniro and Rosie Perez can come true without drinking Democrat kool aid.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Hello Dennis,
[..]
Steve Schmidt is a former Republican, having left the party in 2018.
He is the person who ran John McCain's campaign for president in 2008.
Today he is an Independent, as many other Republicans have also left
the party. I am not affiliated with any political party, and choose
to remain so.
Well there you go, someone who thought McCain would be a good president!
There is absolutely no doubt he would have been a far better president than what we have sitting in the White House today.
Would you in 10 years time, old highly the opinion of someone who ran Trumps
campaign?
Which one? Two of them went to jail, and the third one quit and
is awaiting trial.
He's changed his views maybe, I don't know.
Steve Schmidt is the same Steve Schmidt he has always been.
I don't really care, its one opinion and I don't know what his motives are.
One of his motives is to get rid of Trump.
If we are talking of a politician here, the motives are likely self-serving.
Trump is a politician. Schmidt is not.
Up until 2016, when the Democratic party thought that Hillary would be a
good president, I would have (if I was a US citizen) not wanted to vote
Republican.
Although some Democrats did vote for Trump in 2016, many of those
same Democrats regret having done so. Will they vote for Biden? Or
will they choose not to vote at all? That is the question.
As for Republicans, their Republican Party no longer exists. Today
it has become nothing more than a polite fiction. What Republicans are
voting for is dictatorship under Trump & Co.
I agree it has changed dramatically. I can't see the dictatorship though.
Authoritarianism = Dictatorship
You know, here in Melbourne, Australia, we are subject to curfews and the
harshest lockdown.
The governors of several states in the USA, including Louisiana,
issued mandatory curfews and harsh lockdowns as the pandemic is a
public health issue.
We don't have constitutional freedom of speech, or the same right to bear
arms.
Australians have similar rights. Not the same, but similar.
People go on and on about this fascistic dictatorship, but I can't see what
rights and freedoms you have actually LOST.
The thing about fascism is one never notices until it hits you
in the face. Look at fascism as a form of weakened democracy.
Once a democracy has been weakened to the point where it no longer matters, it is no longer a democracy but something else. And we
all know that power cannot exist in a vacuum.
What freedom has Trump taken from you that you had under Obama?
Where's the check? With no check, Trump can in effect rule by decree.
The only thing I see is that you are less free to hold an opinion which
contradicts orthodoxy, but I don't see Trump destroying the lives of people
who hold these opinions, but others. I see Big Tech censorship, companies firing people, cancel culture, things which affect the population at large.
Please enlightenment how Trump is limiting your movement speech or action?
Earlier this year, by presidential proclamation, Trump told the world
who could, and could not, travel to the USA. He did not need approval
from anybody else. Not his cabinet. Not the Congress. Not the American people. Not the UN. He acted on his own.
Those presidential proclamations remain in effect today. Unchallenged.
So yes, my Australian friend. Trump is very much limiting your movement speech or action. In every which way he wants and can.
I'm not a US citizen, but I'm just saying, that if I was in the US, I
couldn't have voted for the party of McCain or Romney, and I would have
preferred to see them lose.
You got your wish in 2008, when Barack Obama won.
And again in 2012, when Barack Obama did it a second time.
I didn't wish for Obama to win, as I'm not a US citizen it doesn't affect me
to greatly. Also, not wanting one candidate to win doesn't mean you wish the
other would. If I was a voter, I would have preferred a candidate who is a
cross between Nader and Buchanan, perhaps more Nader than Buchanan. But
McCain was in my mind unfit and dangerous.
Steve Schmidt was McCain's campaign manager in 2008. Schmidt is a political consultant, John McCain his client at the time. Sometimes
your client wins, sometimes not. It is the nature of the game.
The Republican party doesn't represent the interests of working Americans,
it hasn't for a long time.
Republicans holding office represent the interests of Donald Trump,
not the interests of the American people.
Both parties act in a self-serving manner.
One more time. The Republican Party exists no more as a viable
political party. It has been taken over by Donald Trump.
Pooh to them I say!
And those who continue to support them.
Must be desperate if we are referring to the opinions of Republican party
hacks now.
Steve Schmidt is not a Republican. After he left the party, he
decided to have some fun, founding The Lincoln Project.
Republican party hacks hate him for that. So does Donald Trump.
What is Trumpism anyway?
A death cult.
You guys are worked up over very little and seem to be overreacting. He's
boorish, but not a disaster. I keep in touch with a few people in the USA,
and none of them have noted any new fascistic laws or impositions from the
government.
Nobody objected when Adolf Hitler did the same thing in Germany.
Until it was too late. That is the problem with fascism. Nobody
notices what it is until it is too late. Weakened democracy. That
is my definition of fascism. What is yours?
I mean, seriously, you are posting here, under your REAL name, calling Trump
a leader of a death cult, a fascist, that he needs to go, and are free to
do so without consequence.
One more time. I said Trump is the symptom. Not the disease.
Do keep up.
AS IS EVERYONE ELSE.
Hitler asked the world to take in Germany's Jews. The world refused.
So Hitler sent the Jews to work camps. So they could all make money for the Reich. Unfortunately, they did not work hard enough to enjoy their long-deserved reward ...
If you really WERE living under a fascist regime, you would dissapear, or
suddenly find yourself imposed upon, or be threatened, or your family threatened, or as happened in Communist Russia, if you were lucky, only moved to a crapper job or lost your residence.
Oh, come now. Everybody knows Hitler hated Commies. And Jews.
And gays. And blacks. And just about everybody else who wasn't
German or Aryan. Especially those who were mental. No telling
what he did with those who were mental ...
None of that is happening. It is ONLY the Cancel Culture mob doing that.
For that reason, I call BS on your claim.
Hitler never conceded. Had to be forced out of office. By an
invasion of Russkies. But he made sure no secrets would be spilled.
First thing he did was to off his beloved German Shepherd "Blondie"
with a pill. Then give his girlfriend a shot. Next step on board
a Geman U-boat headed straight for South America.
Some claim he is still alive and well.
Get a grip.
Well, you never know. Germans did have very good doctors ...
--Lee
Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
I've heard about vans whisking people away, but not much more than rumours.
It's not a rumour, I have seen video of these police doing this.
I've heard a lot of rumours, about Trump supposedly removing mailboxes,which
turned out not to be what is claimed.
The USPS under Donald Trumps newly installed crony has removed sorting machines and and stopped overtime and these actions have resulted in a slowdown of postal service. Many in the US get their prescriptions by
mail and they have not been getting them delivered on time.
Mailboxes have been removed because it is said they are no longed
needed.
Who has dissappeared?
I don't know or think anyone has dissapeared. Being a new and secret police not much is known about them currently.
I have studied, on both conservative and liberal sites since 2016, and am not seeing any evidence of fascism you speak of...
Try 2020?
All the negative Trump coverage seems really fake to me. I still haven't he anyone tell me a single thing that Trump has done wrong. They say stuff, bu just don't see any of it as wrong.
Uhh, I have been. Seems to be plenty of leftist whining and silly riots, but not fascism.
It's not a rumour, I have seen video of these police doing this.
I've seen videos of police putting people in vans too. It's quite common during arrests.
No one has dissappeared.
So what happened to them? Just the usual process?
What is the world coming too when you can't arrest violent rioters...
Uhh, I have been. Seems to be plenty of leftist whining and silly riots, bu not fascism.
I too, am waiting for this and anxiously waiting for proof of the so-called "fascism in Trump's America" that is verifiable undeniable proof and not ju some usual leftist whinefest.
Trumps demagoguery is not new.
https://youtu.be/hvMtLQ7OwzM
There isn't a president, or Liberal Prime Minister here, who hasn't been compared to Hitler. It's so, so tiresome. It's just a dumb comparison.
That video was like 4 seconds long, and Trump barely said one word.
Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
It's not a rumour, I have seen video of these police doing this.
I've seen videos of police putting people in vans too. It's quite common during arrests.
Yes, that is the norm. What's happening today with the secret police is not normal.
No one has dissappeared.
I never said anyone dissapeared.
So what happened to them? Just the usual process?
Most likely.
What is the world coming too when you can't arrest violent rioters...
Police can and should arrest rioters. There is no need for secret
police to arrest rioters.
This video shows my concern around police and secret police actions
today.
https://youtu.be/AzE3RZrnAkk
This video shows my concern around police and secret police actions
today.
https://youtu.be/AzE3RZrnAkk
If they were Antifa,
then we are dealing with terrorists.
Uhh, I have been. Seems to be plenty of leftist whining and silly riots, bu not fascism.
I'm getting scared that maybe people believe everything they read on bumper stickers? It's a terrible place to get news updates :( Worse than BBC & PBS
presidential impeachment trial. They were ready to impeach Trump again when said "everybody needs to stay home." Nancy even encouraged people to go out public - just to spite Trump. But the roles eventually reversed, with Trump
I'm not trying to be funny, I can't help it that the truth is disgusting bu kinda hilarious too, in a dark way.
Uhh, I have been. Seems to be plenty of leftist whining and silly riots, but not fascism.
Trumps demagoguery is not new.
https://youtu.be/hvMtLQ7OwzM
In spite of that he is very popular, much like a WWE star.
His constant lies and and fascism, the secret police I mentioned illustrate this clearly makes him a bad president. He has not acted to reduce violence and inflames instead and paints Kyle Rittenhouse as some sort of hero.
In spite of that he is very popular, much like a WWE star.
LOL! Quoting Youtube? Whats next, the oracle wisdom of Wikipedia?
Calm down, he's not your president.
That video was like 4 seconds long, and Trump barely said one word.
Really? Try this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_FDFY-SJ-4
Whats absolutely effing hilarious to me was that whole crap with her at the salon; typical entitled leftist mentality. Do as I say, not as I do?
population that voted for his hair, effeminate mannerisms and last name. The sadness is not the terrible leaders, but the lemmings of dumb voters.
LOL! Quoting Youtube? Whats next, the oracle wisdom of Wikipedia?
Been watching youtube too eh?
Now that salon owner is being alienated by her community for opposition to Nancy's behavior. You don't want to party with Nancy; she gets high on powe and that's gonna leave a horrible hangover.
Trump has a sexy white house spokeswoman who I'm not ready to say goodbye t I like seeing her in the press briefings! She's a lot easier to look at tha Joe Biden's spokesman. Maybe Justin Trudeau should be someone's spokesman :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_FDFY-SJ-4
And this video is 100% Steven Hawking - Trump's not even in it. It doesn't matter how you calculate the issue of "demagoguery."
If anyone could show me video or audio footage of Trump bulldozing
skeletons, or cheerleading for the Viet Cong, then I'll vote Biden.
Trump has a sexy white house spokeswoman who I'm not ready to say goodbye t I like seeing her in the press briefings! She's a lot easier to look at tha Joe Biden's spokesman. Maybe Justin Trudeau should be someone's spokesman :
Trump *usually* picks hot women. But banging Ivana? Ewww, no thanks.
And this video is 100% Steven Hawking - Trump's not even in it. It doesn't matter how you calculate the issue of "demagoguery."
I was only saying that Donald's Demagoguery was nothing new.
How about Air Force One arriving in Freeland, Michigan for a Trump
pep rally as "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival is
You're using too much imagination. Trump's not gonna promote draft dodging. looks like a campagin management error to me though. There's no reason why shouldn't be using music from Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, or Phil Sousan (Trump supporters.)
No, this woman's name is Kayleigh McEnany. She is the "White House Spokeswoman." She's hot, and a great spokeswoman. The media probably hates her, but I'll bet the media photography personnel don't wanna see her go! :)
But I disagree with you there, because this is Donald's first time demagoging. >He's not a career politician, he's a business tycoon. The only thing he has to
gain in being our president, is his pride in doing what he feels is right for the American people.
Joe Biden was part of a very mismanaged White House cabinet. To switch Joe with the guy who has done everything to help guys like me, and our families, is an uncomfortable thought.
If you don't like Trump, and it sounds like you don't,
then you should at least have some understanding that the majority of the
USA is NOT happy about the prospect of a Joe Biden administration.
If we had to replace Trump with a Democrat, it shouldn't be a member of a failed administration's cabinet.
We had 2 military war veterans in the Democratic primary, and it seems like the flaky left here in the states chose the black race over reason. Even before he announced "Kamala," this was the guy from the black guy's administration, so how does that sound in vote marketing? The DNC wouldn't let an advantage like that slip by.
Imagine all the photos that Joe Biden has of him with the Obamas. Is that gonna trick the ancestors of slaves into voting Democrat or what?
White millionaire career politician shows up at black guy's funeral? What?
Was Barack Obama's VP? What!? Legalize prostitution? What!?
How about Air Force One arriving in Freeland, Michigan for a Trump
pep rally as "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival is
You're using too much imagination. Trump's not gonna promote draft dodging.
If anyone could show me video or audio footage of Trump bulldozing
skeletons, or cheerleading for the Viet Cong, then I'll vote Biden.
It looks like a campagin management error to me though. There's no reason
why he shouldn't be using music from Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, or Phil Sousan (Trump supporters.)
Thank you Lee, for pointing out the biggest mistake of Trump's campagin:
Using the wrong music. Let's see if Kellyanne can do better this time!
But I disagree with you there, because this is Donald's first time
demagoging. He's not a career politician, he's a business tycoon. The only >> thing he has to gain in being our president, is his pride in doing what he >> feels is right for the American people.
Donald was always a demogogue. He's the first demogogue in the White House
that I can recall.
She's hard to hear, she lies just like her boss and previous WH press secretaries.
Donald was always a demogogue. He's the first demogogue in the White House that I can recall.
White millionaire career politician shows up at black guy's funeral? What?
You're beeing silly.
Your own words. Time for you to own up to them.
Read the lyrics of the song.
No excuses. You said you would vote for Biden if Trump did something
really bonehead stupid like "cheerleading for the Viet Cong". Time for
you to own up.
He has not apologized for his choice of music. Therefore, your claim
is bogus.
Derrangement! What about Sara Sanders? A liar too?
And Sean Spencer? Lying for the big guy?
These spokespersons have been awesome.
Your own words. Time for you to own up to them.
Read the lyrics of the song.
I don't listen to song lyrics. I hate Creedence Clearwater. I liked them
when I was a kid, but I don't give a crap about song syrics.
No excuses. You said you would vote for Biden if Trump did something >LL>really bonehead stupid like "cheerleading for the Viet Cong". Time for >LL>you to own up.
He wasn't supporting Viet Cong. John Fogerty can kiss it.
He has not apologized for his choice of music. Therefore, your claim
is bogus.
I don't recognize any bogus claim made by me in recent days.
IOW, John Fogerty is a True American Patriot.
Quite unlike the assclown who occupies the WH today.
Five deferments, including one for bone spurs, to avoid
IOW, John Fogerty is a True American Patriot.
I guess he must be a Republican then. :)
Quite unlike the assclown who occupies the WH today.
Five deferments, including one for bone spurs, to avoid
Bone spurs are painful. I had them. The only medicine for them is cortisone
shots, and cortisone shots hurt like hell too.
Do you want a private who sits down on the job?
Or do you want a private who is in so much pain from standing, that he can't
focus on his task?
Donald Trump used any excuse he could find in order to avoid military service in Vietnam. I am sure his daddy helped him in that regard.
Had nothing to do with his ability to serve. Everything to do with
his being a chicken-shit bastard who refused to serve his country.
Donald Trump has never had surgery on his feet. He seems to be
doing fine standing on his feet during all those Trump rallies.
Donald "Bone Spur Cadet" Trump. A most fitting name.
What has Trump done to incite and encourage violence?
He supported the neo-nazis at Charlottesville. He cheered on that
caravan of his supporters who came to Portland shooting paintballs at
BLM protesters. At his rallies he repeatedly invited his supporters to beat up protesters. He gave support to Rittenhouse who shot three protesters in Kenosha. He sent troopers into Portland, armed to the teeth, which only resulted in stirring up the flames. At a political rally in Montana he praised the assault of a Republican who body slammed
a reporter. There are many more examples. It is common behavior by
him.
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What has Trump done to incite and encourage violence?
He supported the neo-nazis at Charlottesville. He cheered on that
caravan of his supporters who came to Portland shooting paintballs at
BLM protesters. At his rallies he repeatedly invited his supporters to beat up protesters. He gave support to Rittenhouse who shot three protesters in Kenosha. He sent troopers into Portland, armed to the teeth, which only resulted in stirring up the flames. At a political rally in Montana he praised the assault of a Republican who body slammed
a reporter. There are many more examples. It is common behavior by
him.
All of these examples is based on your perception of which is liberal.
It Does not mean that how it is in reality, because if was there would
be much more spin even more chaos over these events that your talking about.
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