On 2019 Jul 21 08:20:56, you wrote to me:

Maybe *she* should "go home" to Puerto Rico,

One of the most ignorant and hateful statements that a person can make to another is "If you don't like it here, why don't you leave?"
That attitude is the main reason America was founded, in all its hope and energy and goodness. The people who came here, to make a better land than had ever been seen before by the common people, had been rebuffed and rejected by their neighbors in the Old World.
They didn't like conditions where they lived, and wanted to improve them. If they had been allowed and encouraged to, the Old World would have had a happier
history, instead of the miserable tribulations that turned the eyes of the people to America as their last, best hope.
NOW WE FIND that many Americans--smug and fat and entrenched in their affluent inertia--are saying the same ugly thing to their neighbors: "If you don't like it here, why don't you leave?"
But most people who want to change conditions /do/ like it here: they love it
here. They love it so much they cannot stand to see it suffer from its imperfections, and want it to live up to its ideals. It is the people who placidly accept the corruptions and perversions and inequities in our society who do not love America; they love their status, security and special privilege.
Nobody should be faced with the mean choice of accepting conditions as they are or abandoning the place he has grown up in. We not only have a right, we have a responsibility, to make our environment as just and as flourishing as our Founding Fathers declared it must be if it were to live up to its aspiration as "the standard of the world."
THOSE WHO WANT to leave have a right to, but those who want to stay and work for what they consider a better society must be protected in that right--for without it, our nation would sink into stagnation, and the process of change would harden into repression by those who benefit by keeping things just as they are.
If all the settlers who came here, with high hopes for a new and finer social
order, had been compelled to "go back where they came from," we would have had
no United States of America. This country was born out of dissatisfaction with
the old scheme of things, and grew on the blood and dedication of men who were
not afraid to speak and work for fundamental changes in the whole political and social structure.
Somebody who truly didn't like what America /stands/ for ought to be invited to leave; but there is a vast difference between such a person and those who dislike /what we have allowed ourselves to become/, through greed and prejudice
and provincial indifference to the great problems we now face. No community can afford to lose these good "agitators."

Sydney J Harris - July 21 1969 - Chicago Daily News

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On 22 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

Nobody should be faced with the mean choice of accepting conditions as they are or abandoning the place he has grown up in. We not only have a right, we have a responsibility, to make our environment as just and as flourishing as our Founding Fathers declared it must be if it were to
live up to its aspiration as "the standard of the world."

Um, You are aware that the left has been attacking Thomas Jefferson, for
being a slave owner, and are finding fault with his writings that he wrote along with Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman, Robert R. Livingston called the Declaration of Independence.

THOSE WHO WANT to leave have a right to, but those who want to stay
and work for what they consider a better society must be protected in
that right--for without it, our nation would sink into stagnation, and
the process of change would harden into repression by those who benefit
by keeping things just as they are.

Wonderful speech Mark, and I agree with you. But let me ask you a question. What if it was possible to bring AOC back in time to those days that your writing about. I know very well what would be the outcome.
AOC would be tarred and feathered and carried through cobblestone streets, and charged with high treason.

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On 2019 Jul 22 07:26:54, you wrote to me:

Wonderful speech Mark,

i didn't write it, i only transcribed it...

and I agree with you.

i don't believe you...

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On 22 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

On 2019 Jul 22 07:26:54, you wrote to me:

Wonderful speech Mark,

i didn't write it, i only transcribed it...

and I agree with you.

i don't believe you...

Then I agree with what you transcribed.
I did not see any issue with it and I read it several times.

Although I do find it interesting that you did not answer me.

What if it was possible to bring AOC back in time to those days that your writing about. I know very well what would be the outcome. AOC would be tarred and feathered and carried through cobblestone streets, and charged with high treason.

Could it be that you did not respond because there could be truth in what I indicated? Why do you think that is? The Conservatives of today may roll their eyes and can't believe what they are hearing from the new left spokeswomen and her squad. Where it may make us cringe as we wait for the next outlandish statement yet to be spoken, we know very well it will be against America.
-just as all the other deranged statements have been.

The Founding Fathers would never ever tolerate such talk. Most would declare to burn her at the stake with a overwhelming majority as they would find her guilty of possessing the tongue of the devil.

Thank goodness we have mellowed out and changed our ways and look at
things different in modern times. It's no guarantee that we on the right will remain as we are today, this depends on her and how she decides to use her tongue, it might be necessary to return to the old ways in the very near future.

She is playing a very dangerous game, I am really tired (I do know that I am not the only one, not a long shot.) of hearing that she is saying these statements because she loves America, her words are counter intuitive to that belief. I find her to be arrogant, ignorant and hateful.

What is yet to come - what path will be chosen?

Next comes desperation (here and now) The never ending need to call the President a racist, when he never mentioned nationality nor did he make any reference to race. (The Democratic plays the race card when it suits them.)
The Presidents twitter remarks do not have anything to do with race, as it relates to the squad. Everybody knows that, but they are selling the idea as this hatches the narrative to populate peoples minds with. Hoping that the nation is stupid enough and that they will soon subscribe to it.

She is dividing the county into two parts, the ones who find her statements repulsive and the ones who find no issue with statements.

Next comes division but on a national scale far worse then anyone as ever seen.

Next comes separation... Everyone knows where this leads us.

Do you want another Civil War? I don't.

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On 2019 Jul 21 08:20:56, you wrote to me:

Maybe *she* should "go home" to Puerto Rico,

One of the most ignorant and hateful statements that a person can

make to

another is "If you don't like it here, why don't you leave?"

Why? They don't say "if you don't like it, TS."

That attitude is the main reason America was founded, in all its

hope and

energy and goodness. The people who came here, to make a better land

than had

ever been seen before by the common people, had been rebuffed and

rejected by

their neighbors in the Old World.

I know why the country was founded - and that the native Americans were
unable to control immigration into THEIR country, and look what
happened to them.

This country can easily handle legal immigrants, and they should be
welcomed. Unfortunately, people are ILLEGALLY pouring across this
country's southern border at the rate of several thousand per DAY and
have been for several years; the country CANNOT absorb that many
immigrants that fast.
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I know why the country was founded - and that the native Americans were unable to control immigration into THEIR country, and look what

I believe the majority of USA native American voters will back Trump in
2020. I don't know natives from all around, but natives from the pueblos of
New Mexico are often complaining about illegal immigrants. They might
consider me to be one, but we're still fighting the same battle. Extremely patriotic people; many of whom are veterans.

I doubt that USA native Americans appreciate white and/or black politicians
(or any politicians) advertising open borders. "We're outsiders who invaded your land, and we're fighting tooth & nail to allow others to invade your land too."

There are disputed lands across the USA, but do any Democrats even have the nerve to try to exploit native Americans for votes? Maybe Elizabeth Warren should try promising some land back? :)

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There are disputed lands across the USA, but do any Democrats even have the nerve to try to exploit native Americans for votes? Maybe Elizabeth Warren should try promising some land back? :)

Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren is toast.
Once the story about Dow chemical is digested, she claims to have fought for the women w/suits against Dow Chemical, She was working both sides of the street as she was also working for and protecting Dow Chemical.

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I know why the country was founded - and that the native

Americans were

unable to control immigration into THEIR country, and look what

I believe the majority of USA native American voters will back Trump

in

2020. I don't know natives from all around, but natives from the

pueblos of

New Mexico are often complaining about illegal immigrants. They might consider me to be one, but we're still fighting the same battle.

Extremely

patriotic people; many of whom are veterans.

Many people don't know that during WW II, the US used Navajo tribesmen
in its radio communications in the Pacific Theater. The Japanese
didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American
languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..
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On 07-22-19 02:19, Mark Lewis <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about The 'love it or leave it' <=-

One of the most ignorant and hateful statements that a
person can make to another is "If you don't like it here,
why don't you leave?"

<<SNIP>>

Sydney J Harris - July 21 1969 - Chicago Daily News

Well said, a good article, glad that you found it and posted it. It was written at a different time, and under different circumstances -- but is
true and relevant today.

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On 2019 Jul 22 19:47:14, you wrote to me:

Wonderful speech Mark,

i didn't write it, i only transcribed it...

and I agree with you.

i don't believe you...

Then I agree with what you transcribed.

that's very interesting... it seems to be the opposite of what you have been voicing in this very echo...

I did not see any issue with it and I read it several times.

i'm glad...

Although I do find it interesting that you did not answer me.

i don't care to engage further with those posts.

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On 23 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

Although I do find it interesting that you did not answer me.

i don't care to engage further with those posts.

I didn't think you would.

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didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..

They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still alive, but I bet they don't vote against America.

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Hello Aaron,

didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American >BA>languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..

They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still alive, but I bet
they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

--Lee

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They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still alive, but I
they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

Yes, but their nation isn't akin to statehood; they're not independent of the USA.

Elizabeth Warren is the only native American who I've heard of who is
fighting for open borders. I wonder if she will get endorsement from her
tribe? My sources say no!

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They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still

alive, but I

they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

Yes, but their nation isn't akin to statehood; they're not

independent of the

USA.

They are, however, pretty much independent of the state governments in
the states where their reservations are located.

Elizabeth Warren is the only native American who I've heard of who is fighting for open borders. I wonder if she will get endorsement from

her

tribe? My sources say no!

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On 08-01-19 10:12, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: The 'love it or leave <=-

They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are
still alive, but I
they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

Yes, but their nation isn't akin to statehood; they're not independent
of the USA.

Actually, their nations are not part of the USA, even though included
within its boundaries -- it's complicated.

Elizabeth Warren is the only native American who I've heard of who is fighting for open borders. I wonder if she will get endorsement from
her tribe? My sources say no!

A. Elizabeth Warren has not said that she is native American, she has
said that she has a native American heritage. She does not have a
tribe. What she has said is true of many people. Somewhere in their
past five or six generations there was a native American ancestor. Some
deny that, and some embrace it.

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