• i've got the power

    From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Sunday, January 27, 2019 21:45:08
    Hey Nancy!

    grateful to any crew that was restoring the power

    Especially at 10pm on Christmas Eve which is when the power came up here.

    I have no trouble at all believing it

    I haven't looked around since so all might be back to normal on the generator front ... whatever that means. I generally don't follow the happenings in generator world.

    I do note that...

    And this one is back to the usual suspect.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 17:28:00
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 20-Jan-2019 17:36 <=-

    very willing to show their appreciation for the work done by the
    visiting work crews

    As well as the local crews. Speaking for myself, I showed no bias as
    to where the crew was from that worked on our particular stretch of line.

    True... one would just be grateful to any crew that was restoring the power.... :)

    A few years back, we had a very localized power outage. Actually, the
    local power company had made it a little worse by turning the power off to
    a larger area (when it was not necessary). Thing was that the local power company had apparently sent ALL of their trucks and/or linemen multiple
    states away for hurricane duty, so the only way the folks left over knew to turn off the power in the downed-line area was to turn it off to the much larger area, and then wait and wait until someone could eventually fix it.

    This happened on a Friday night. I called that night, and again the next
    day. Was told it would be fixed by Saturday evening. Saturday had turned
    out to be the hottest day of the year. Early Sunday morning I called
    again. The same guy answered and, when asked about it, said "that is not
    fixed yet?"

    A couple of hours later, a power truck from two towns over was there fixing
    it. Took them less than 20 minutes. Next day, I called that power company
    and thanked them for coming to my town to fix the power when our company
    was unable to.

    They do the hurricane thing for publicity and then cannot even help their
    own town out.

    Mike

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, February 02, 2019 18:04:26
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 27-Jan-2019 21:45 <=-

    grateful to any crew that was restoring the power

    Especially at 10pm on Christmas Eve which is when the power came up
    here.

    An especially nice Christmas present, indeed... :)

    I have no trouble at all believing it

    I haven't looked around since so all might be back to normal on the generator front ... whatever that means. I generally don't follow the happenings in generator world.

    I'd guess that the backlog will continue for a few months, actually...
    so probably not much point in trying to follow the happenings in
    generator world... unless one was very much interested in getting one
    sooner than later.... :)

    I do note that...

    And this one is back to the usual suspect.

    Yup. I see... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Mike Powell on Saturday, February 02, 2019 21:02:30
    Quoting Mike Powell to NANCY BACKUS on 29-Jan-2019 17:28 <=-

    show their appreciation for the work done by the visiting work crews
    As well as the local crews. Speaking for myself, I showed no bias as to where the crew was from that worked on our particular stretch of line.
    True... one would just be grateful to any crew that was restoring the power.... :)
    A few years back, we had a very localized power outage. Actually, the local power company had made it a little worse by turning the power
    off to a larger area (when it was not necessary). Thing was that the local power company had apparently sent ALL of their trucks and/or
    linemen multiple states away for hurricane duty, so the only way the
    folks left over knew to turn off the power in the downed-line area was
    to turn it off to the much larger area, and then wait and wait until someone could eventually fix it.

    Oh, dear.... Rather short-sighted to not leave at least a skeleton crew
    behind just in case there was something happen like did.... all very
    nice and all to go out helping others, but still should have kept a
    reserve at home.... including some that knew what to do in a localized emergency....

    This happened on a Friday night. I called that night, and again the
    next day. Was told it would be fixed by Saturday evening. Saturday
    had turned out to be the hottest day of the year. Early Sunday morning
    I called again. The same guy answered and, when asked about it, said "that is not fixed yet?"

    Apparently he wasn't local to you...? just in a service call center...?

    A couple of hours later, a power truck from two towns over was there fixing it. Took them less than 20 minutes. Next day, I called that
    power company and thanked them for coming to my town to fix the power
    when our company was unable to.

    Good for him to mobilize them, and for them to come and help out... :)
    And very good that they could fix it easily... :)

    They do the hurricane thing for publicity and then cannot even help
    their own town out.

    Probably also for warm fuzzies.... but when they don't plan for local contingencies to be taken care of while they are off helping others, the publicity could easily backfire.... You'd think that at the least,
    they'd've set up for a neighboring town to cover for them....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, February 03, 2019 09:29:00
    This happened on a Friday night. I called that night, and again the next day. Was told it would be fixed by Saturday evening. Saturday
    had turned out to be the hottest day of the year. Early Sunday morning I called again. The same guy answered and, when asked about it, said "that is not fixed yet?"

    Apparently he wasn't local to you...? just in a service call center...?

    It is a muni utility. Most of their folks are local, although their
    Internet call center is not (I am guessing they are reselling someone
    else's service there). Possible the electric call center is not local any
    more or, at least, not local on weekends.

    I have been very impressed by their cable service folks. The guys they send out to the house know their stuff. The electric I am neutral about, I've
    never had to deal with them (yet) on water or sewer, but the folks at that Internet call center are going from script and seem to know less about
    their service than at least a partially-savvy user can already figure out.

    Mike

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:37:29
    Hey Nancy!

    An especially nice Christmas present, indeed...

    And no chimneys or reindeer were harmed in the making of it. :-)

    I'd guess that the backlog will continue for a few months

    Maybe. We're not out of the woods yet as it is only the start of Febuary and if last year was any indication we could easily get a few more storms before this winter is over.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 02:37:06
    Quoting Mike Powell to NANCY BACKUS on 03-Feb-2019 09:29 <=-

    This happened on a Friday night. I called that night, and again the next day. Was told it would be fixed by Saturday evening. Saturday had turned out to be the hottest day of the year. Early Sunday morning I called again. The same guy answered and, when asked about it, said "that is not fixed yet?"
    Apparently he wasn't local to you...? just in a service call center...?
    It is a muni utility. Most of their folks are local, although their Internet call center is not (I am guessing they are reselling someone else's service there). Possible the electric call center is not local
    any more or, at least, not local on weekends.

    Or maybe it is still local, but there just wasn't anyone left around to
    handle the repair.... and he didn't realize that he'd need to call in
    the neighbors....

    I have been very impressed by their cable service folks. The guys
    they send out to the house know their stuff. The electric I am neutral about, I've never had to deal with them (yet) on water or sewer, but

    That's good, on the cable.. and good that there haven't been any
    problems with water or sewer.... :)

    the folks at that Internet call center are going from script and seem
    to know less about their service than at least a partially-savvy user
    can already figure out.

    But that's rather a sad thing....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 02:40:36
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 03-Feb-2019 10:37 <=-

    An especially nice Christmas present, indeed...

    And no chimneys or reindeer were harmed in the making of it. :-)

    Indeed.... :)

    I'd guess that the backlog will continue for a few months

    Maybe. We're not out of the woods yet as it is only the start of
    Febuary and if last year was any indication we could easily get a few
    more storms before this winter is over.

    Especially the way this season has been unfolding, as well... One can
    but hope that any storms will be not as bad as they might be... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 20:14:30
    Hey Nancy!

    One can but hope that any storms will be not as bad as they might
    be...

    So far there hasn't been any bad storms since the New Year. Tradition has them
    coming in March.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Friday, February 08, 2019 03:10:14
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 05-Feb-2019 20:14 <=-

    One can but hope that any storms will be not as bad as they might
    be...

    So far there hasn't been any bad storms since the New Year. Tradition
    has them coming in March.

    Good that you've been spared so far.... Time will tell on March... We
    had a brush with what could have been a bad storm... freezing rain
    collected as ice on trees, cars, wires, etc.... but stopped short of
    becoming a full-blown ice storm.... Some of us had bad memories revived
    as we watched it accumulate..... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Thursday, February 07, 2019 20:06:58
    Hey Nancy!

    Good that you've been spared so far

    I may have jumped the gun on that as there is a severe wind warning for the next couple of days for the southern Island. Supposedly for us it will be a near miss but I am not betting the farm on it. Also a healthy dump of snow is predicted as well. :-/

    freezing rain collected as ice on trees, cars, wires, etc.

    Sounds like you're getting the icy stare instead of the cold shoulder.

    Some of us had bad memories revived

    Understood. I am definetly feeling a hint of that as we speak.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, February 11, 2019 00:56:10
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 07-Feb-2019 20:06 <=-

    Good that you've been spared so far

    I may have jumped the gun on that as there is a severe wind warning
    for the next couple of days for the southern Island. Supposedly for
    us it will be a near miss but I am not betting the farm on it. Also a healthy dump of snow is predicted as well. :-/

    I heard on the radio that Seattle had quite the dump of snow...
    hopefully it missed you...?

    freezing rain collected as ice on trees, cars, wires, etc.

    Sounds like you're getting the icy stare instead of the cold shoulder.

    We got both.... <G> At least the ice melted... ;)

    Some of us had bad memories revived

    Understood. I am definetly feeling a hint of that as we speak.

    Live long enough, and you'll have lived through some storms that are
    talked about for years.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Monday, February 11, 2019 14:38:06
    Hallo Nancy!

    on the radio that Seattle had quite the dump of snow...

    I heard the same but they didn't say how much. As far as the Island goes, Ladysmith got the most (40cm), and we're expecting another dump today forecasted to be 10-15cm. On the plus side, we managed to avoid the gale force
    winds and never lost power while south of us, Victoria looked to get hit the hardest, there were many outages due to wind damage.

    Also on the snow front news is that we're set to break the alltime record for the amount of snow on the ground for Febuary and it isn't over yet as there is rumour for more on the way after today. Also the daily high has been well under 0C for the last week which is unusual for this time of year.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Thursday, February 14, 2019 01:21:02
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 11-Feb-2019 14:38 <=-

    on the radio that Seattle had quite the dump of snow...

    I heard the same but they didn't say how much.

    I heard 2 feet...

    As far as the Island goes, Ladysmith got the most (40cm), and we're expecting another dump today forecasted to be 10-15cm.

    That's pretty impressive....

    On the plus side, we managed to avoid the gale force winds and never
    lost power while south of us, Victoria looked to get hit the hardest, there were many outages due to wind damage.

    Good that you avoided wind damage.... So far, despite gale force winds,
    we've not lost power at all this year....

    Also on the snow front news is that we're set to break the alltime
    record for the amount of snow on the ground for Febuary and it isn't
    over yet as there is rumour for more on the way after today. Also the daily high has been well under 0C for the last week which is unusual
    for this time of year.

    With temps that low, you'll likely keep the snow a while... instead of
    it just melting off right away....

    We just got a sloppy mess... snow, sleet and freezing rain... made for
    slushy roads, and then as the temps dropped, that all turned to ice...
    we were out in it for most of yesterday.... the ice didn't happen until overnight.... and we didn't have to go out today, which was a good
    thing.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 20:51:13
    Hola Nancy!

    I heard 2 feet...

    Whoa! They might have us beat but we just got through storm two and have storm
    three slated to start tomorrow afternoon-ish. We still have all the snow from
    storm one on the ground and none of it is likely to melt before storm three has dumped it's load. I am sure we have beat all records but haven't heard anything official along that line yet. I'll wait until after the next one is over before checking.

    you'll likely keep the snow a while...

    More on the way too. :-/

    and we didn't have to go out today, which was a good thing

    For sure. After storm two we can't even get out of the driveway and it's about
    to get worse. Hopefully tommorrow before storm three starts I can make a quick trip to get a few supplies but if not then I can hold out until next week
    if there isn't any choice which at this point appears to be the most likely.

    La vida es buena,
    Maurice

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Nancy Backus on Thursday, February 14, 2019 21:55:03
    Re: Re: i've got the power
    By: Nancy Backus to Maurice Kinal on Thu Feb 14 2019 01:21 am

    I heard 2 feet...

    As far as the Island goes, Ladysmith got the most (40cm), and we're
    expecting another dump today forecasted to be 10-15cm.

    That's pretty impressive....

    Here is wierd. It's cold enough for snow 3 months of the year but normally dry then. Now it's wet but just over warm levels.

    Had it been the normal cold, we'd have had a collective of near 2ft snow by
    now (granted not on the ground as much would have melted off between events).

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, February 18, 2019 21:14:02
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 13-Feb-2019 20:51 <=-

    I heard 2 feet...

    Whoa! They might have us beat but we just got through storm two and
    have storm three slated to start tomorrow afternoon-ish. We still
    have all the snow from storm one on the ground and none of it is
    likely to melt before storm three has dumped it's load. I am sure we
    have beat all records but haven't heard anything official along that
    line yet. I'll wait until after the next one is over before checking.

    Have you heard anything official on your snowfall accumulation yet...?
    We've just had a bit more, but then that's pretty normal here....

    you'll likely keep the snow a while...

    More on the way too. :-/

    I'm sure you'll cope... somehow.... ;)

    and we didn't have to go out today, which was a good thing

    For sure. After storm two we can't even get out of the driveway and
    it's about to get worse. Hopefully tommorrow before storm three
    starts I can make a quick trip to get a few supplies but if not then I
    can hold out until next week if there isn't any choice which at this
    point appears to be the most likely.

    So, were you able to get out for your supplies before storm three
    hit...? :) And are you dug out yet...? ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Carol Shenkenberger on Monday, February 18, 2019 21:46:22
    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Nancy Backus on 14-Feb-2019 21:55 <=-

    I heard 2 feet...
    As far as the Island goes, Ladysmith got the most (40cm), and we're
    expecting another dump today forecasted to be 10-15cm.
    That's pretty impressive....

    Here is wierd. It's cold enough for snow 3 months of the year but
    normally dry then. Now it's wet but just over warm levels.
    Had it been the normal cold, we'd have had a collective of near 2ft
    snow by now (granted not on the ground as much would have melted off between events).

    So the good news is that it's been a bit warmer, I guess... ;) Unless
    you were hoping for snow.... <G> We keep getting warmer weather that
    leaves puddles in the driveway, followed by really cold that freezes
    that solid.... One morning, we had to break the car tires out of the ice
    that had encased them, before we could go anywhere.... This week, when
    we got new puddles, I parked my car at the other end of the driveway
    (the street end) since the forecast was for yet another freeze... it
    worked... <G> Now we just got another 4 inches or so more snow, but at
    least not the promised sleet and freezing rain that was supposed to
    accompany it.... :) Underneath the snow is all that ice from before....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Monday, February 18, 2019 20:15:18
    Hey Nancy!

    Have you heard anything official on your snowfall accumulation
    yet...?

    Not yet but unofficially the first two dumps were around 2 feet so dump three was indeed overkill and apparently there is a small dump slated for tommorrow and perhaps beyond. However it has warmed up a tad and much of what accumulated has slowly melted. Also whatever falls before the end of the month
    should count for the monthly totals which I believe might beat the record for all monthly accumulations of snow in this part of the world, nevermind just Febuary.

    were you able to get out for your supplies

    Yes. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Friday, February 22, 2019 01:06:14
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 18-Feb-2019 20:15 <=-

    Have you heard anything official on your snowfall accumulation
    yet...?

    Not yet but unofficially the first two dumps were around 2 feet so
    dump three was indeed overkill and apparently there is a small dump
    slated for tommorrow and perhaps beyond. However it has warmed up a
    tad and much of what accumulated has slowly melted. Also whatever
    falls before the end of the month should count for the monthly totals which I believe might beat the record for all monthly accumulations of snow in this part of the world, nevermind just Febuary.

    Quite the snowy February for you, then.... :) Let us know whether it
    does.... ;)

    were you able to get out for your supplies

    Yes. :-)

    That's good... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Thursday, February 21, 2019 18:59:27
    Hey Nancy!

    Quite the snowy February for you, then....

    Most definetly, even if we don't get more. For sure we broke the daily record on that first dump even if we don't count the snow dumped on the following day which was the same storm. I think that might have broken the daily record for that day too. Together they counted for the ~2 feet which much of it is still on the ground as we speak along with what fell in at least 4 dumps since.

    They are predicting a snow/rain mix overnight with it switching to plain old showers before noon tomorrow (Friday). Nothing earth shattering and not likely
    to be more than 4 cm if indeed there is any snow at all. It feels more like it will rain (showers) given the current temperature here at sea level ... less
    than 20 meters elevation and ~100 meters to the shoreline.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, February 25, 2019 18:16:58
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 21-Feb-2019 18:59 <=-

    Quite the snowy February for you, then....

    Most definetly, even if we don't get more. For sure we broke the
    daily record on that first dump even if we don't count the snow dumped
    on the following day which was the same storm. I think that might
    have broken the daily record for that day too. Together they counted
    for the ~2 feet which much of it is still on the ground as we speak
    along with what fell in at least 4 dumps since.

    Definitely bragging rights, for sure.... :)

    They are predicting a snow/rain mix overnight with it switching to
    plain old showers before noon tomorrow (Friday). Nothing earth
    shattering and not likely to be more than 4 cm if indeed there is any
    snow at all. It feels more like it will rain (showers) given the
    current temperature here at sea level ... less than 20 meters
    elevation and ~100 meters to the shoreline.

    And did you get the rain as you expected...? Did it melt down/off all
    that snow....?

    We've been having a wind storm, yesterday and today... and winds are
    expected to continue for at least another day.... Yesterday it was over
    50F and we had rain and thunderstorms, by evening, it was down near
    0C/low 30sF and there was snow being blown about by the wind.... Now
    it's only in the high 20sF and still blowing... what precipitation comes
    is snow.... ;) At the moment, the winds have died down a little, maybe
    to 30mph or so.... Yesterday there were gusts at 75mph or so, through
    the night almost that, still pretty gusty this morning, rattling the
    windows, shaking the house.... Still have power, though... and no
    downed trees or branches.... :) Only a handful of people in the area
    lost power, which is pretty good, considering the wind.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Monday, February 25, 2019 20:10:09
    Hey Nancy!

    Definitely bragging rights, for sure

    And as of tonight, we still have the evidence on the ground although not nearly
    as deep. As for bragging rights I am not convinced it is/was worth it.

    And did you get the rain as you expected...?

    Yes although not that much. More of a shower than a rain event. However, just
    across the Strait in Vancouver, they got another dump of snow in the neighbourhoods at higher elevations (Burnaby) that caused grief for commuters.
    I didn't hear about any major outages or anything of that nature so it sounded
    like another weather annoyance amongst all the rest of the weather annoyances for this Febuary. Sure is an odd one as far as any past Febuarys I have witnessed.

    As we speak, ~8pm PST, it is -3C and a wind warning for just south of us for the southern Gulf Islands and Victoria, as well as Vancouver and the Fraser Valley which is expected to see the worst of it. Here in Ladysmith we're just seeing the colder temps of the so-called Arctic outflow and are predicted to escape the gale force winds that are at the heart of the subzero temperatures.

    We've been having a wind storm, yesterday and today

    We heard. No word about any major damage though so hopefully you've managed to
    dodge another one of Mother Nature's temper tantrums.

    Only a handful of people in the area lost power, which is pretty
    good, considering the wind....

    For sure. As for us, we'll know tomorrow whether of not we escaped yet another
    blow. So far so good but we're still getting the cold shoulder from Mother Nature.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Friday, March 01, 2019 17:54:04
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 25-Feb-2019 20:10 <=-

    Definitely bragging rights, for sure

    And as of tonight, we still have the evidence on the ground although
    not nearly as deep. As for bragging rights I am not convinced it
    is/was worth it.

    Probably not... but it can help one keep a good face on things... ;)
    Similar to the Golden Snowball Award "competition" between Buffalo,
    Syracuse and Rochester for the most snowfall of the season every
    year.... I'm always happy for us to lose handily... ;)

    And did you get the rain as you expected...?

    Yes although not that much. More of a shower than a rain event.
    However, just across the Strait in Vancouver, they got another dump of snow in the neighbourhoods at higher elevations (Burnaby) that caused grief for commuters. I didn't hear about any major outages or anything
    of that nature so it sounded like another weather annoyance amongst
    all the rest of the weather annoyances for this Febuary.

    Better the weather annoyance than a significant outage and emergency situations, though....

    Sure is an odd one as far as any past Febuarys I have witnessed.

    Things have changed over the years... I remember that when I was a
    young adult, February was so consistently snowy that our church always
    had a sledding party scheduled in mid-Feb... and the city would hold a
    Winter Fest.... It's not so dependable anymore... and even this year,
    with a fair bit of snow, it hasn't stayed always on the ground to
    schedule any such thing...

    As we speak, ~8pm PST, it is -3C and a wind warning for just south of
    us for the southern Gulf Islands and Victoria, as well as Vancouver
    and the Fraser Valley which is expected to see the worst of it. Here
    in Ladysmith we're just seeing the colder temps of the so-called
    Arctic outflow and are predicted to escape the gale force winds that
    are at the heart of the subzero temperatures.

    Hopefully you did escape the winds....

    We've been having a wind storm, yesterday and today

    We heard. No word about any major damage though so hopefully you've managed to dodge another one of Mother Nature's temper tantrums.

    Pretty much.... really wasn't any major damage here....

    Only a handful of people in the area lost power, which is pretty
    good, considering the wind....

    For sure. As for us, we'll know tomorrow whether of not we escaped
    yet another blow. So far so good but we're still getting the cold shoulder from Mother Nature.

    It's still pretty cold here, though today has warmed up some.... by
    Monday, our lows will be single digit or close (F), and highs only in
    the 20sF right through the forecast (Thurs or so)....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Friday, March 01, 2019 21:08:48
    Hey Nancy!

    but it can help one keep a good face on things

    I'll take your word on it, but speaking for myself I'd much rather it was the normal temps for this time of year even if it meant rain ... and more rain ... and even more rain ... etc. ad nauseam. Now that it is March I am hoping to hear the official synopsis for Febuary and if indeed it was an alltime record.
    We still have some of the evidence of the unusual snow. Offhand I am guessing
    we'll get word on Monday.

    Things have changed over the years...

    I've noticed.

    Hopefully you did escape the winds....

    We ended up getting a couple hours of it but managed to escape any serious damage. One of my exterior wireless antennas bit the dust but lucky for the neighbours that I have a backup.

    It's still pretty cold here, though today has warmed up some

    Exactly the same here. However the nighttime lows are still hovering below zero C and expected to stay that way until next week. Nobody is sticking their
    neck out to predict normal temps beyond that but there has been much hope expressed.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 20:27:54
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 01-Mar-2019 21:08 <=-

    but it can help one keep a good face on things

    I'll take your word on it, but speaking for myself I'd much rather it
    was the normal temps for this time of year even if it meant rain ...
    and more rain ... and even more rain ... etc. ad nauseam.

    You probably would hit that ad nauseum bit pretty soon.... ;)

    Now that it
    is March I am hoping to hear the official synopsis for Febuary and if indeed it was an alltime record. We still have some of the evidence of
    the unusual snow. Offhand I am guessing we'll get word on Monday.

    And have you had word yet...?

    Hopefully you did escape the winds....

    We ended up getting a couple hours of it but managed to escape any
    serious damage. One of my exterior wireless antennas bit the dust but lucky for the neighbours that I have a backup.

    That was indeed lucky for them... :)

    It's still pretty cold here, though today has warmed up some

    Exactly the same here. However the nighttime lows are still hovering below zero C and expected to stay that way until next week. Nobody is sticking their neck out to predict normal temps beyond that but there
    has been much hope expressed.

    Meanwhile, we're back into teens F for highs, and single digits for
    lows... Sunday may get to 50F, but then the forecast is to cool down
    again... maybe someday the temps will hit the sweet spot between the too
    high and the too low.... ;0

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Thursday, March 07, 2019 03:00:54
    Hey Nancy!

    You probably would hit that ad nauseum bit pretty soon.... ;)

    We'll never know for sure now that it is March.

    And have you had word yet...?

    Yes. Second coldest Febuary on record and most, if indeed not all, the snow days set records for that particular day. The sub par temperatures continue as
    we speak although it has warmed up a tad, at least during the day. No rain but there is a warning for snow for Vancouver and the Fraser valley for tomorrow. :-/

    Please make it stop!!! :::sigh:::

    That was indeed lucky for them...

    Yes but the backup isn't as good although they haven't complained about it ... yet.

    Meanwhile, we're back into teens F for highs, and single digits
    for lows... Sunday may get to 50

    That sounds exactly like the forecast for here. Normally we'd have flowers blooming and lawnmowers agravatting everyone weeks ago. I don't miss the lawnmowers but I am betting the bees and hummingbirds miss the flowers. I've seen hummingbirds at the feeders but zero bees thus far.

    Maybe next week.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, March 11, 2019 01:43:36
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 07-Mar-2019 03:00 <=-

    You probably would hit that ad nauseum bit pretty soon.... ;)

    We'll never know for sure now that it is March.

    Unless you get piles of rain in March... ;)

    And have you had word yet...?

    Yes. Second coldest Febuary on record and most, if indeed not all,
    the snow days set records for that particular day.

    Pretty impressive... :)

    The sub par temperatures continue as we speak although it has warmed
    up a tad, at least during the day. No rain but there is a warning
    for snow for Vancouver and the Fraser valley for tomorrow. :-/

    And did it materialize...?

    Please make it stop!!! :::sigh:::

    Spring should be coming along soon..... I'm ready for it now, too... :)

    That was indeed lucky for them...

    Yes but the backup isn't as good although they haven't complained
    about it ... yet.

    Will you be replacing it with better, once the weather settles down....?

    Meanwhile, we're back into teens F for highs, and single digits
    for lows... Sunday may get to 50

    That sounds exactly like the forecast for here.

    We didn't get to 50F, only the mid-40s.... now it's cooling back to the
    more seasonable 30's as we head into the week... but there seems to
    finally be a warming trend (as opposed to the occasional way too warm
    day followed by arctic temps).... We had rain today... chances of snow
    coming up...

    Normally we'd have flowers blooming and lawnmowers agravatting everyone weeks ago. I don't miss the lawnmowers but I am betting the bees and hummingbirds miss the flowers.

    I'm sure you're right on that....

    I've seen hummingbirds at the feeders but zero bees thus far.
    Maybe next week.

    The bees probably know better than to emerge yet.... Are you putting out
    the sugar water for the hummingbirds...?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 02:36:19
    Hey Nancy!

    Unless you get piles of rain in March... ;)

    It's raining as we speak ... and still below seasonal temps to add insult to injury ... sort of speak. At least it isn't snow. :::knock on wood:::

    for snow for Vancouver and the Fraser valley for tomorrow. :-/

    And did it materialize...?

    Yes, and we got some too along with lightning and thunder. It almost became biblical.

    Spring should be coming along soon.....

    The weather people are promising the weekend but I will believe it when I see it. I have lost the faith, although I probably didn't have much to start with.

    Will you be replacing it with better, once the weather settles
    down

    That was the original plan but I got brave and repaired the old one and put it back up. It is showing WAY better signal strength but at the expense of some added noise. I now plan to wait until the weather improves before tweaking it some more. So far nobody is complaining.

    The bees probably know better than to emerge yet....

    Hopefully they will be out and about soon.

    Are you putting out the sugar water for the hummingbirds...?

    There is definetly more than enough in the neighbourhood as well as bird feeders for the rest of the crowd. There is one just behind my place that I can view through the window in my so-called office where I am typing this reply. It is dark now but earlier there were flocks of birds all taking their turns at poking at the feeder with much gusto. It is always a fun to watch.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, March 18, 2019 19:49:28
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 12-Mar-2019 02:36 <=-

    Unless you get piles of rain in March... ;)
    It's raining as we speak ... and still below seasonal temps to add
    insult to injury ... sort of speak. At least it isn't snow. :::knock
    on wood:::

    Or ice, I'd guess.... ;)

    for snow for Vancouver and the Fraser valley for tomorrow. :-/
    And did it materialize...?
    Yes, and we got some too along with lightning and thunder. It almost became biblical.

    Quite the sight, then...?

    Spring should be coming along soon.....
    The weather people are promising the weekend but I will believe it
    when I see it. I have lost the faith, although I probably didn't have much to start with.

    So were things better on the weekend...?

    Thursday, we had a record high of 70 degrees F, which quickly dropped
    the next couple of days, and we've been having temps around freezing,
    and small amounts of snow... Today's sunny, with blue sky, white fluffy clouds... and snow floating in the air falling somehow from the sky...

    Will you be replacing it with better, once the weather settles
    down
    That was the original plan but I got brave and repaired the old one
    and put it back up. It is showing WAY better signal strength but at
    the expense of some added noise. I now plan to wait until the weather improves before tweaking it some more. So far nobody is complaining.

    That worked out well then... :)

    The bees probably know better than to emerge yet....
    Hopefully they will be out and about soon.

    And the weather safe enough for them.... :)

    Are you putting out the sugar water for the hummingbirds...?
    There is definetly more than enough in the neighbourhood as well as
    bird feeders for the rest of the crowd. There is one just behind my
    place that I can view through the window in my so-called office where
    I am typing this reply. It is dark now but earlier there were flocks
    of birds all taking their turns at poking at the feeder with much
    gusto. It is always a fun to watch.

    Good that they are being cared for... :) And yes, I've always enjoyed
    the show at my mom's bird feeder outside her kitchen window... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 03:40:52
    Hey Nancy!

    Quite the sight

    I didn't see any of the lightning but definetly heard the thunder as it echoed off the mountains. We don't get that much lightning and thunder and this was the first time I've heard thunder at this time of year. I've heard of it happening while snowing but NEVER around here.

    So were things better on the weekend

    Yes, but even better today with more of the same for tomorrow and the next day.
    Predicted to cool down a tad on Friday and possibly get a taste of rain which
    is normal for the last days of winter.

    and snow floating in the air falling somehow from the sky

    You can keep it. ;-)

    That worked out well then...

    Getting better too. I managed to get rid of the excess noise by upping the wattage on the line. I noticed it was a little shy. I need better testing tools but money is short at the moment. Anyhow everything looks good now.

    And yes, I've always enjoyed the show at my mom's bird feeder
    outside her kitchen window

    This one belongs to my neighbour but I have a clear line of sight through my so-called "office" window. It is dark at the moment so no birds but I can see a ghostly light coming from a light he has to attract moths. He takes pictures
    of them. He also has an outdoor camera pointed at the bird feeder so he can watch it from a computer monitor in his place. He is really into nature type photography.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Friday, March 22, 2019 18:02:52
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 19-Mar-2019 03:40 <=-

    Quite the sight
    I didn't see any of the lightning but definetly heard the thunder as
    it echoed off the mountains. We don't get that much lightning and
    thunder and this was the first time I've heard thunder at this time of year. I've heard of it happening while snowing but NEVER around here.

    Always a first time... ;) We've had it once in a while here, thunder
    and lightning accompanying snow... but it is rather rare, even here...

    So were things better on the weekend
    Yes, but even better today with more of the same for tomorrow and the
    next day. Predicted to cool down a tad on Friday and possibly get a
    taste of rain which is normal for the last days of winter.

    We had a bit of rain yesterday, and now it's back around freezing, so
    what precipitation we are being promised today is going to be snow...
    but then back up into the 50s F for Sunday... back and forth for a
    while... pretty typical for our early spring, too.... :)

    and snow floating in the air falling somehow from the sky
    You can keep it. ;-)

    Thankfully, we didn't... <G> It mostly didn't even stick.. and what did
    was gone pretty quickly... :)

    That worked out well then...
    Getting better too. I managed to get rid of the excess noise by
    upping the wattage on the line. I noticed it was a little shy. I
    need better testing tools but money is short at the moment. Anyhow everything looks good now.

    Very good... Maybe some day you'll be able to afford the better testing tools.... ;)

    And yes, I've always enjoyed the show at my mom's bird feeder
    outside her kitchen window
    This one belongs to my neighbour but I have a clear line of sight
    through my so-called "office" window. It is dark at the moment so no birds but I can see a ghostly light coming from a light he has to
    attract moths. He takes pictures of them. He also has an outdoor
    camera pointed at the bird feeder so he can watch it from a computer monitor in his place. He is really into nature type photography.

    Keeps him busy, I'm sure... :) And you get to have the benefit from
    the accoutrements of his hobby... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Saturday, March 23, 2019 04:01:38
    Hey Nancy!

    Always a first time... ;)

    I can live with that ... as if I have a choice. ;-)

    but it is rather rare, even here

    That is my understanding of the phenomena.

    pretty typical for our early spring

    Same situation here except without the threat of snow. We were up to record breaking warm temperatures for the last couple of days but are now back to the normal temps (~12C) for this time of year with intermittent showers thrown in as per usual.

    Maybe some day you'll be able to afford the better testing
    tools.... ;)

    If not then business as usual will have to do. I seem to be managing. I am in
    the process of updating an older little box to be the next generation wireless
    router just to see if I can ... as well as the little box. It still works fine but giving it a new task might be something of interest despite it being beyond the capabilities of the users here ... mostly their so-called 'smart'phones. Overpriced and overrated crap if you ask me but it isn't my dime thank goodness. Anyhow this should put me well ahead of the game which can be fun ... and it isn't costing much which is propbably the real reason for
    doing it. I already have the working and capable little system for the host.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 16:38:31
    Hola Nancy!

    There'll probably be less and less of a threat of snow now

    Yes but the nightime lows are not that much above 0C so there is still a chance
    for it. The days are still nice even with the occasional showers we've had.

    I find it useful to have a cell phone

    Although I don't have one I believe that would be more useful than a landline, even a chordless one. I heard tales a little while ago that some major manufacturer was planning to start making them again due to a high demand. I for one can believe that as I have absolutely no use for a phone to be other than just a phone.

    Sounds quite typical of you...

    Yes it does. Obviously I have become too predictable in my old age.

    Keeps the mind exercised, too... :)

    Yes it can although sometimes it can give one a headache when things don't go quite according to the 'plan' which can and does change at the drop of a hat.

    Speaking of which, this reply is a test to make sure I haven't screwed up anything on the raspi3b+ which I've been experimenting with what should be the start of the next generation stuff. The problem with using the raspi3b+ is that it's radio chip isn't capable of 802.11s (wireless mesh) which is what the
    latest plan requires. However it does make a good testing platform for the higher speed 5GHz connections using it as a regular access point.

    Looks good from this angle. :-)

    La vida es buena,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, April 01, 2019 01:59:14
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 27-Mar-2019 16:38 <=-

    There'll probably be less and less of a threat of snow now
    Yes but the nightime lows are not that much above 0C so there is still
    a chance for it. The days are still nice even with the occasional
    showers we've had.

    Tonight's lows are supposed to be in the 20sF, so below 0C.. and we've
    had snow in the air all day... some of it started sticking more this
    evening... still not supposed to have much accumulation.... But then
    later this week, the highs will be mostly in the 50sF, so, what, around
    the 20sC...? Occasional showers, too... but should be fairly nice...

    I find it useful to have a cell phone
    Although I don't have one I believe that would be more useful than a landline, even a chordless one. I heard tales a little while ago that some major manufacturer was planning to start making them again due to
    a high demand. I for one can believe that as I have absolutely no use
    for a phone to be other than just a phone.

    Our primary phone is a landline, with cordless handsets (along with a
    couple corded ones)... Never knew that they weren't being made anymore, though.... My cell phone is more an adjunct, for when I'm away from
    home... ;)

    Sounds quite typical of you...
    Yes it does. Obviously I have become too predictable in my old age.

    Oh, I don't know... I just try to pay attention, that's all... <G>

    Keeps the mind exercised, too... :)
    Yes it can although sometimes it can give one a headache when things
    don't go quite according to the 'plan' which can and does change at
    the drop of a hat.

    But that's part of the fun.... isn't it...? <G>

    Speaking of which, this reply is a test to make sure I haven't screwed
    up anything on the raspi3b+ which I've been experimenting with what
    should be the start of the next generation stuff. The problem with
    using the raspi3b+ is that it's radio chip isn't capable of 802.11s (wireless mesh) which is what the latest plan requires. However it
    does make a good testing platform for the higher speed 5GHz
    connections using it as a regular access point.
    Looks good from this angle. :-)

    Looks fine from this angle, too.... :) Didn't see anything obviously
    wrong at this end... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Monday, April 01, 2019 03:44:21
    Hey Nancy!

    the highs will be mostly in the 50sF, so, what, around the
    20sC...?

    More around 15C-ish. 20C is more or less 70F. We're sitting around 15C for highs this last little while. Lows have come up to around 5C which is a bit cool but above freezing so it looks like we're past the threat of snow. :::knock on wood:::

    Our primary phone is a landline, with cordless handsets

    My favourite, although I am not much of a phone person but definetly prefer the
    above over all other alternatives.

    Never knew that they weren't being made anymore

    As far as I know they are. I was talking about the plain old cellphones which have been replaced by smartphones ... until recently or so the story goes. It was something I heard on the news.

    But that's part of the fun.... isn't it...?

    It can be ... not always though. In this case I plan to have fun given that I'll probably be the only one using it ... for now. I'm still waiting for a part which should be here this week. That is when the real fun will begin.

    Looks fine from this angle, too

    Bonus! I still have it on but it isn't doing much at the moment. I'll have to
    think of something for it to do now that it's fulfilled it's original task of building a custom 64 bit linux for itself ... and any other of it's ilk that might happen to show up.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, April 03, 2019 18:27:46
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 01-Apr-2019 03:44 <=-

    the highs will be mostly in the 50sF, so, what, around the 20sC...?

    More around 15C-ish. 20C is more or less 70F.

    Oh, ok... The ones I easily mentally keep are the 0\32, 37\99 and
    100\212, the middle one from hospital duty... ;)

    We're sitting around 15C for highs this last little while. Lows have
    come up to around 5C which is a bit cool but above freezing so it
    looks like we're past the threat of snow. :::knock on wood:::

    We've slipped back into the 40sF for highs, and around freezing for
    lows, so we'll still be likely to get some snow, but hopefully nothing
    that accumulates much or sticks around...

    Our primary phone is a landline, with cordless handsets

    My favourite, although I am not much of a phone person but definetly prefer the above over all other alternatives.

    As do we, by and large... :)

    Never knew that they weren't being made anymore

    As far as I know they are. I was talking about the plain old
    cellphones which have been replaced by smartphones ... until recently
    or so the story goes. It was something I heard on the news.

    Dunno about that story... what I have is a plain old cellphone, and I've
    seen them still advertised in certain markets... mine's not even a flip
    phone, just a little phone with a small phone key pad and small
    screen... works for me, though... voice and text....

    But that's part of the fun.... isn't it...?

    It can be ... not always though. In this case I plan to have fun
    given that I'll probably be the only one using it ... for now. I'm
    still waiting for a part which should be here this week. That is when
    the real fun will begin.

    And has it arrived yet...?

    Looks fine from this angle, too

    Bonus! I still have it on but it isn't doing much at the moment.
    I'll have to think of something for it to do now that it's fulfilled
    it's original task of building a custom 64 bit linux for itself ...
    and any other of it's ilk that might happen to show up.

    A useful toy, then... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Any smart houseworker knows -- "Don't do Windows"

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nancy Backus on Thursday, April 04, 2019 03:30:42
    Hey Nancy!

    We've slipped back into the 40sF for highs

    That would be around 5C which is around our lows although they've climbed up a tad to 8C-sh. Also we started getting back the spring rains which should last at least a week according to the weather people.

    Dunno about that story... what I have is a plain old cellphone,
    and I've seen them still advertised in certain markets

    Just goes to show how much I get around these days. However when I do get out and about I always see people walking around with smartphones ... or no phones at all.

    And has it arrived yet...?

    Yes, today. In fact they shipped me two even though I only asked for one. They are extended temperature mini-pcie wireless cards. I have one of them running as we speak. The raspberry pi and it are connecting just fine so maybe
    I'll use the pi in future tests. We'll see where this goes.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts of note:
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 18:42:06
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 23-Mar-2019 04:01 <=-

    Always a first time... ;)
    I can live with that ... as if I have a choice. ;-)

    Well, yeah... :)

    pretty typical for our early spring

    Same situation here except without the threat of snow. We were up to record breaking warm temperatures for the last couple of days but are
    now back to the normal temps (~12C) for this time of year with intermittent showers thrown in as per usual.

    There'll probably be less and less of a threat of snow now, even here...
    rain is more likely now... but could still have snow into next month,
    just not as likely... Especially when the temps stay fairly warmish... ;)

    Maybe some day you'll be able to afford the better testing
    tools.... ;)

    If not then business as usual will have to do. I seem to be managing.
    I am in the process of updating an older little box to be the next generation wireless router just to see if I can ... as well as the
    little box. It still works fine but giving it a new task might be something of interest despite it being beyond the capabilities of the users here ... mostly their so-called 'smart'phones. Overpriced and overrated crap if you ask me but it isn't my dime thank goodness.

    Quite agreed... I find it useful to have a cell phone, but it is, and
    will remain, pretty basic.... no need for the 'smart'phones... :)

    Anyhow this should put me well ahead of the game which can be fun ...
    and it isn't costing much which is probably the real reason for doing
    it. I already have the working and capable little system for the
    host.

    Sounds quite typical of you... :) Keeps the mind exercised, too... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... I try to take one day at a time, but often several days attack at once

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:18/200 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, April 08, 2019 21:15:20
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 3 Apr 19 23:30:42 <=-

    We've slipped back into the 40sF for highs

    That would be around 5C which is around our lows although they've
    climbed up a tad to 8C-sh. Also we started getting back the spring
    rains which should last at least a week according to the weather
    people.

    And at the moment, we are back into the 60sF for highs and are having
    our own April showers... :) Supposed to be off and on all week... ;0

    Dunno about that story... what I have is a plain old cellphone,
    and I've seen them still advertised in certain markets

    Just goes to show how much I get around these days. However when I do
    get out and about I always see people walking around with smartphones
    ... or no phones at all.

    There's a lot of smartphones around, to be sure... but even though they
    seem to be the only phones around, that's not really the case...

    And has it arrived yet...?

    Yes, today. In fact they shipped me two even though I only asked for
    one. They are extended temperature mini-pcie wireless cards. I have
    one of them running as we speak. The raspberry pi and it are
    connecting just fine so maybe I'll use the pi in future tests. We'll
    see where this goes.

    I see you have lots of fun ahead... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... "All general statements are false." -- The Ultimate Law
    --- Blue Wave/DOS
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, April 09, 2019 03:09:30
    Hey Nancy!

    And at the moment, we are back into the 60sF for highs and are
    having our own April showers...

    Sounds familiar.

    There's a lot of smartphones around, to be sure... but even
    though they seem to be the only phones around, that's not really
    the case...

    Like I said, they are the only ones I've seen or had any dealings with lately.
    In the neighbourhood other than a few laptops, all the devices connecting to the wireless access point are smartphones ... and one tablet now that I think about it. A neighbour uses that to stream TV shows every now and then.

    I see you have lots of fun ahead...

    For sure. It is all fun and games until someone loses an . :::evil grin:::

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts of note:
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 09, 2019 04:01:45
    Hallo Maurice!

    You screwed up the last line. It should have been;

    It's all fun and games until someone loses an . :::evil grin:::

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 09, 2019 04:24:37
    Hey Maurice!

    It's all fun and games until someone loses an ì.

    When you're right you're right. Of course the ì above has been converted to utf8 but you already know that.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, April 15, 2019 23:33:02
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 09-Apr-2019 03:09 <=-

    And at the moment, we are back into the 60sF for highs and are
    having our own April showers...
    Sounds familiar.

    And now, yesterday and today, high temps are in the 40sF and even 30s...
    and bouncing between sunny and rainy... tomorrow's supposed to be sunny
    and a bit warmer... then rain and higher temps as the week continues...

    There's a lot of smartphones around, to be sure... but even
    though they seem to be the only phones around, that's not really
    the case...
    Like I said, they are the only ones I've seen or had any dealings with lately. In the neighbourhood other than a few laptops, all the devices connecting to the wireless access point are smartphones ... and one
    tablet now that I think about it. A neighbour uses that to stream TV shows every now and then.

    Another thing I'd not do... ;) Not arguing that smartphones are all you
    see, though... merely stating that there are still quite a few "dumb"
    phones around (including mine), and I see them as well as the
    smartphones around... And some people don't have any cell phone (like Richard).... :)

    I see you have lots of fun ahead...

    For sure. It is all fun and games until someone loses an . :::evil grin:::

    Ok... you used some unreadable to me character... looks like a capital T dropped half down.... And you knew I wouldn't be able to read it, hence
    your evil grin.... <G>

    ttyl neb

    ... In case of fire, do not use elevators. Water works better.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 03:25:47
    Hey Nancy!

    you used some unreadable to me character... looks like a capital
    T dropped half down.... And you knew I wouldn't be able to read
    it, hence your evil grin.... <G>

    Not true. It looks like it got borked somewhere along the line and should have
    been a printable character to you -> 0x8d which according to the encoding gurus should be "LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE". Let me try it again but this time I'll add an extra kludge that might allow it to escape borking;

    It's all fun and games until someone loses an . :::tentative evil grin:::

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts of note:
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    2024-11-05 is 2030 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 04:13:54
    Hey Nancy!

    I got my reply to you at both CanadARM and the EuroPoint and the character in question survived intact. However I made a slight change to my offline messaging thingy here at CanadaARM and we'll see if this could work when replying of posting to you.

    At "9:00 PM PDT Monday 15 April 2019" Nanaimo Airport is reporting that it is 7C or 45F if you prefer. For tonight they are guessing that the low will be 2C or 36F which is definetly cold for this time of year. :-(

    Oh and, it is all fun and games until someone loses an . :::evil grin:::

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts of note:
    2020-01-01 is 260 days from now and falls on a Wednesday.
    2024-11-05 is 2030 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, April 20, 2019 18:46:38
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 16-Apr-2019 03:25 <=-

    you used some unreadable to me character... looks like a capital
    T dropped half down.... And you knew I wouldn't be able to read
    it, hence your evil grin.... <G>

    Not true. It looks like it got borked somewhere along the line and
    should have been a printable character to you -> 0x8d which according
    to the encoding gurus should be "LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE".
    Let me try it again but this time I'll add an extra kludge that might allow it to escape borking;
    It's all fun and games until someone loses an . :::tentative evil
    grin:::

    So, on somebody's bbs (don't remember which one now), I did actually see
    the small i with the accent grave before the period... But here in this
    packet (and as well in the next two messages in this packet you sent),
    there's just a space.... I don't think it made it into any of the
    packets I got....

    ttyl neb

    ... We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Sunday, April 21, 2019 15:55:18
    Hallo Nancy!

    I did actually see the small i with the accent grave before the
    period...

    Excellent. So now you know that I wasn't playing with characters we both know your editor has issues displaying.

    But here in this packet (and as well in the next two messages in
    this packet you sent), there's just a space.... I don't think it
    made it into any of the packets I got....

    Good to know. I have adjusted accordingly and you should see only pure ascii in this reply.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts van belang:
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 13:49:32
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 21-Apr-2019 15:55 <=-

    But here in this packet (and as well in the next two messages in
    this packet you sent), there's just a space.... I don't think it
    made it into any of the packets I got....

    Good to know. I have adjusted accordingly and you should see only
    pure ascii in this reply.

    Which is indeed the case... :) And also no gaps where characters might
    have been... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Genealogy: (n) a DNA square-dance in the Twilight Zone

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 03:31:12
    Hey Nancy!

    And also no gaps where characters might have been... ;)

    That was a goofy thing for sure but definetly highlighted the, "until someone loses an .", part. However it helps to know beforehand that the character in question was a form of "i" which sounds like "eye". According to long standing
    standards, that particular character should have never been replaced at all.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts of note:
    2020-01-01 is 252 days from now and falls on a Wednesday.
    2024-11-05 is 2022 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, April 27, 2019 00:54:44
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 24-Apr-2019 03:31 <=-

    And also no gaps where characters might have been... ;)

    That was a goofy thing for sure but definetly highlighted the, "until someone loses an .", part. However it helps to know beforehand that
    the character in question was a form of "i" which sounds like "eye".

    Recognizing the saying was the main reason I knew (approximately) what
    the missing character had to be... along with the previous discussion...

    According to long standing standards, that particular character should have never been replaced at all.

    Except that some thing or things took exception to it....

    ttyl neb

    ... Chocolate chip cookies: hazardous waist products!

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, April 27, 2019 09:11:20
    On 2019 Apr 24 03:31:12, you wrote to Nancy Backus:

    That was a goofy thing for sure but definetly highlighted the, "until someone loses an .", part. However it helps to know beforehand that
    the character in question was a form of "i" which sounds like "eye". According to long standing standards, that particular character should have never been replaced at all.

    replaced or stripped, the problem stems from the use of "should be ignored" in the specs... some take "ignored" to mean "not processed and left out" while others take it to mean "not processed and carried forward"... i'm not sure how to resolve that...

    )\/(ark

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    ---
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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Saturday, April 27, 2019 15:08:49
    Hallo Nancy!

    Except that some thing or things took exception to it....

    I think I now know why. If I am right it has to do with MS codepages, and in the case of 0x8d, specifically CP1252 which has a 'hole' at that code. On my system using 'iconv' this is what happens when feeding it 0x8d;

    -={ '<Esc>:read !echo -e "\x8d" | iconv -t cp1252' starts }=-
    iconv: illegal input sequence at position 0
    -={ '<Esc>:read !echo -e "\x8d" | iconv -t cp1252' ends }=-

    Not a good sign. Given that 0x8d is a valid trailing byte in utf8, which range
    from 0x80-0xbf, makes the above issue far worse than just a single character.

    To demonstrate the above I made up a new table with just the IBM and MS codepages which show the holes in MS codepages that will impact messaging conversions both 8 bit and utt8.

    ==========================================================================
    8bit CP437 IBM848 CP850 CP852 CP866 CP1250 CP1251 CP1252 ==========================================================================
    80 c387 d090 c387 c387 d090 e282ac d082 e282ac
    81 c3bc d091 c3bc c3bc d091 d083
    82 c3a9 d092 c3a9 c3a9 d092 e2809a e2809a e2809a
    83 c3a2 d093 c3a2 c3a2 d093 d193 c692
    84 c3a4 d094 c3a4 c3a4 d094 e2809e e2809e e2809e
    85 c3a0 d095 c3a0 c5af d095 e280a6 e280a6 e280a6
    86 c3a5 d096 c3a5 c487 d096 e280a0 e280a0 e280a0
    87 c3a7 d097 c3a7 c3a7 d097 e280a1 e280a1 e280a1
    88 c3aa d098 c3aa c582 d098 e282ac cb86
    89 c3ab d099 c3ab c3ab d099 e280b0 e280b0 e280b0
    8a c3a8 d09a c3a8 c590 d09a c5a0 d089 c5a0
    8b c3af d09b c3af c591 d09b e280b9 e280b9 e280b9
    8c c3ae d09c c3ae c3ae d09c c59a d08a c592
    8d c3ac d09d c3ac c5b9 d09d c5a4 d08c
    8e c384 d09e c384 c384 d09e c5bd d08b c5bd
    8f c385 d09f c385 c486 d09f c5b9 d08f ==========================================================================
    8bit CP437 IBM848 CP850 CP852 CP866 CP1250 CP1251 CP1252 ==========================================================================
    90 c389 d0a0 c389 c389 d0a0 d192
    91 c3a6 d0a1 c3a6 c4b9 d0a1 e28098 e28098 e28098
    92 c386 d0a2 c386 c4ba d0a2 e28099 e28099 e28099
    93 c3b4 d0a3 c3b4 c3b4 d0a3 e2809c e2809c e2809c
    94 c3b6 d0a4 c3b6 c3b6 d0a4 e2809d e2809d e2809d
    95 c3b2 d0a5 c3b2 c4bd d0a5 e280a2 e280a2 e280a2
    96 c3bb d0a6 c3bb c4be d0a6 e28093 e28093 e28093
    97 c3b9 d0a7 c3b9 c59a d0a7 e28094 e28094 e28094
    98 c3bf d0a8 c3bf c59b d0a8 cb9c
    99 c396 d0a9 c396 c396 d0a9 e284a2 e284a2 e284a2
    9a c39c d0aa c39c c39c d0aa c5a1 d199 c5a1
    9b c2a2 d0ab c3b8 c5a4 d0ab e280ba e280ba e280ba
    9c c2a3 d0ac c2a3 c5a5 d0ac c59b d19a c593
    9d c2a5 d0ad c398 c581 d0ad c5a5 d19c
    9e e282a7 d0ae c397 c397 d0ae c5be d19b c5be
    9f c692 d0af c692 c48d d0af c5ba d19f c5b8 ==========================================================================

    Note 0x81, 0x83, 0x88, 0x8d, 0x8f, 0x90, 0x98, and 0x9d. These are all valid trailing bytes in utf8. Also worthy of noting is that none of the IBM codepages are affected, especially CP437 which is what you are using. However any Windows based BBS you are recieving offline packets from may definetly have
    an impact on the characters noted with holes, such as the 'i' created by 0x8d in CP437.

    Bottomline for me is that I'm happy to say I don't do Windows. :-)

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts van belang:
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to mark lewis on Saturday, April 27, 2019 15:59:25
    Hallo mark!

    some take "ignored" to mean "not processed and left out" while
    others take it to mean "not processed and carried forward"... i'm
    not sure how to resolve that...

    Take a look at the latest reply to Nancy about this topic. I think that tells the tale and a very ugly tale it is.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, April 27, 2019 12:55:44
    On 2019 Apr 27 15:59:24, you wrote to me:

    some take "ignored" to mean "not processed and left out" while others
    take it to mean "not processed and carried forward"... i'm not sure
    how to resolve that...

    Take a look at the latest reply to Nancy about this topic. I think
    that tells the tale and a very ugly tale it is.

    i read that which is why i replied to your above...

    i keep wanting to say that QWK uses that i character for its EOL but it doesn't... it uses 0xe3...

    i've also looked at the bluewave format and it doesn't specify anything for EOL...

    we can only assume, at this point, that some system ignored (completely) that specific i character and as a result stripped it out during processing...

    NOTE: i've used the normal lower case i from CP437 in this message to avoid confusion and stripping by intermediate systems...

    )\/(ark

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    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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    ---
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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to mark lewis on Saturday, April 27, 2019 17:46:48
    Hallo mark!

    i keep wanting to say that QWK uses that i character for its EOL
    but it doesn't... it uses 0xe3...

    That is a safe one as far as the MS encodings are concerned but a waste of a character used in math (symbol for pi) in CP437. I for one would strongly protest by NEVER using QWK. Hmm ... come to think of it I never liked nor used
    QWK although I have looked at the format in the past. You've just given me another great reason for disliking it. Thank you.

    i've also looked at the bluewave format and it doesn't specify
    anything for EOL...

    I read somewhere years ago that they purposely left open the door for utf8 compatibility.

    we can only assume, at this point, that some system ignored
    (completely) that specific i character and as a result stripped
    it out during processing...

    In the case of CP1252 it cannot produce a proper character or byte for 0x8d so any processing, say tossing, would have issues if CP1252 is the default codepage on that system. This is a HUGE issue for utf8 since 0x8d is in many, many multibyte characters that use 0x8d as a trailing byte. Also notice the holes in CP1250 and CP1251 which are supported by the CHRS kludge. Another reason that is a very flawed document.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 01:14:26
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 27-Apr-2019 15:08 <=-

    Note 0x81, 0x83, 0x88, 0x8d, 0x8f, 0x90, 0x98, and 0x9d. These are
    all valid trailing bytes in utf8. Also worthy of noting is that none
    of the IBM codepages are affected, especially CP437 which is what you
    are using. However any Windows based BBS you are recieving offline packets from may definetly have an impact on the characters noted with holes, such as the 'i' created by 0x8d in CP437.

    Ok... it's all Wizard to me.... I'll take your word for it... ;)

    Bottomline for me is that I'm happy to say I don't do Windows. :-)

    I don't do Windows, either.... just DOS (and occasionally Linux, but not
    in conjunction with messaging)....

    ttyl neb

    ... Things never "hopeless". "Imminently disastrous" might be better.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 12:33:09
    Hallo Nancy!

    I don't do Windows, either.... just DOS (and occasionally Linux,
    but not in conjunction with messaging)....

    I have been using linux exclusively with messaging ever since the dialup BBS went the way of the dodo bird which was sometime in 1997-ish maybe 1996-ish. I
    am not sure. After that I experimented with a few ideas off and on before settling in with the current idea of doing everything with bash scripts, which is what you're seeing in this reply ... as well as a few things that you're not
    seeing given the offline format you are deploying.

    Bottomline is that your editor doesn't seem to have any issues but instead the BBS's you are dealing with.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts van belang:
    2020-01-01 is 245 dagen vanaf nu en valt op een woensdag.
    2024-11-05 is 2015 dagen vanaf nu en valt op een dinsdag.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, May 04, 2019 00:39:24
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 01-May-2019 12:33 <=-

    I don't do Windows, either.... just DOS (and occasionally Linux,
    but not in conjunction with messaging)....

    I have been using linux exclusively with messaging ever since the
    dialup BBS went the way of the dodo bird which was sometime in
    1997-ish maybe 1996-ish. I am not sure.

    I've had no need to change from my DOS setup... the linux was put on my
    machine to replace Windows for the very occasional time I might need
    graphics rather than strictly text... I've been always able to "look" at
    the pictures on webpages through my text browser (Lynx)...

    After that I experimented with a few ideas off and on before settling
    in with the current idea of doing everything with bash scripts, which
    is what you're seeing in this reply ... as well as a few things that you're not seeing given the offline format you are deploying.

    I'll take your word for that.... ;)

    Bottomline is that your editor doesn't seem to have any issues but
    instead the BBS's you are dealing with.

    For most of the stuff, anyway... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Some days, the only good things on TV are the vase and the clock.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Saturday, May 04, 2019 04:48:07
    Hallo Nancy!

    I've had no need to change from my DOS setup

    I used to be that way, but then again that was before hard drives became bigger
    than DOS could handle. Thank goodness that coincided with the first Slackware
    I took out for a test spin on ye olde 486. At the time it was the only thing that would successfully boot on a 2G drive. Them were the days.

    I'll take your word for that

    Have I ever given you reason to doubt?

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts van belang:
    2020-01-01 is 242 dagen vanaf nu en valt op een woensdag.
    2024-11-05 is 2012 dagen vanaf nu en valt op een dinsdag.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 18:38:30
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 04-May-2019 04:48 <=-

    I've had no need to change from my DOS setup

    I used to be that way, but then again that was before hard drives
    became bigger than DOS could handle. Thank goodness that coincided
    with the first Slackware I took out for a test spin on ye olde 486.
    At the time it was the only thing that would successfully boot on a 2G drive. Them were the days.

    Richard got around that by partitioning the drive into segments that DOS
    could handle.... of course, this pentium's drive is less than 1G... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Inane tagline found. Abort, Retry, Swipe a better one.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 03:50:40
    Hallo Nancy!

    Richard got around that by partitioning the drive into segments
    that DOS could handle.... of course, this pentium's drive is
    less than 1G... ;)

    Yes but that only takes care of the DOS limitation and not the bios's. In the case of the 486 the bios couldn't handle drive sizes bigger than 520M so I had to lie about the geometry to the bios in order for it to get past the bios to the boot loader in order to boot whatever. However the only one that could boot successfully was lilo installed on the root partition (not the mbr) so that the kernel could correct the obviously 'haked' geometry and therefore utilize the entire drive no matter how it was then partitioned.

    Also no bios upgrades back then. The only upgrade possible at that time was to
    solder on a whole new chip which is something I wasn't about to do. Anyhow I retired that computer not too long afterwards since it lacked any 32 bit pci slots which was the only sensible way to upgrade a pc with whatever looked to be attractive at the time, mostly network cards at that time.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts van belang:
    2020-01-01 is 238 dagen vanaf nu en valt op een woensdag.
    2024-11-05 is 2008 dagen vanaf nu en valt op een dinsdag.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:34:56
    Hey Nancy!

    the largest "drive" is under 520M, about 490M to be a little
    more precise... that's the one designated c:\

    Is the size due to DOS limitations or is that the actual size of the disk? In the case of booting linux (slackware back then) the bios was limited but once the kernel got hold of the system then the full real size of the disk was available for whatever purpose was needed at the time. Usually I have seperate
    partitions for the root system, /home, archives/backups/source, and a spare partition for pure play usually next generation type activities. The one I am currently writing this reply on has 7 partitions and cannot boot the old fashioned i386 method via the mbr so a boot partition is required as well as swap space which I normally don't have a need for.

    you're speaking Wizard here

    I thought it was voodoo? Anyhow my mojo was working and it did work on it (ye olde 486 with the static bios). Only Linux though. :-)

    I'd guess that my requirements for a computer are a lot simpler
    than yours are.... ;)

    From this angle it looks to be exactly the same. We just have different approaches to the task at hand, as well as I tend to make simpler things appear
    more complicated then they need to be, such as taking a raspberrypi and creating a pure 64 bit system for it to do fidonet messaging, this reply being a prime example.

    Speaking of which, this is the first message/reply ever from the new pure 64 bit boot I like to call aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu.

    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' starts }=-
    GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.29.
    Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
    There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
    PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
    Compiled by GNU CC version 9.1.0.
    libc ABIs: UNIQUE ABSOLUTE
    For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' ends }=-

    Most definetly voodoo.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Cybertoasts of note:
    2020-01-01 is 231 days from now and falls on a Wednesday.
    2024-11-05 is 2001 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Maurice Kinal on Friday, May 17, 2019 11:57:33
    Hello Maurice,

    15 May 19 16:34 at you wrote to Nancy Backus:

    Speaking of which, this is the first message/reply ever from the new
    pure 64 bit boot I like to call aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu.

    I have two RPi 1s and one RPi 3B+ fully setup and working with Slackware/ARM just sitting here with nothing to do. I'm thinking about taking one of the RPi 1s and turning it into a full-time BOINC machine.

    I'm waiting to use the RPi 3B+ until the new version of Slackware/ARM (v15) that will be using hard-float so I can actually use it for what I want it to. The RPi 3B+ is surprisingly fast for such a little machine.

    Their NetBIOS names: OOHPI and YAYPI for the RPi 1 boxes and MMMPI for the RPi 3B+. :D

    Later,
    Sean

    ... Biology grows on you.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Sean Dennis on Friday, May 17, 2019 17:19:23
    Hey Sean!

    one RPi 3B+ fully setup and working with Slackware/ARM just
    sitting here with nothing to do.

    I used SlackwareARM, actually the SARPi Project, to build the first pure 64 bit
    aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu which this reply is a product of. I couldn't come up with a use for it so fidonet compatibilty became the goal. I do occasionally use the wireless chip to provide an A channel wireless connection for a chromebook that occasionally rears it's ugly head here from time to time.
    Other than browsing chromebooks are totally a waste of hardware in by my latest guesstimation of them.

    The RPi 3B+ is surprisingly fast for such a little machine.

    I started this latest upgrade on Sunday and just finished it yesterday (Thursday) by installing it's latest kernel;

    -={ '<Esc>:read !uname -a' starts }=-
    Linux armando 5.1.1-raspi3b+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu May 16 17:21:26 UTC 2019 aarch64 GNU/Linux
    -={ '<Esc>:read !uname -a' ends }=-

    On the main x86_64 I can usually pull off a base custom install in around two days, from toolchain to final boot product. However that isn't a full 24 hour day(s).

    I am not sure if I'd buy any more of these but if I do it'll probably become a cluster of aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu's.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Maurice Kinal on Friday, May 17, 2019 21:31:34
    Hello Maurice,

    17 May 19 17:19 at you wrote to me:

    rears it's ugly head here from time to time. Other than browsing chromebooks are totally a waste of hardware in by my latest
    guesstimation of them.

    Chromebooks are now coming with a virtualized Debian machine in them to make them more useful. I like a Chromebook when I was travelling for my work. Everything just worked. Now with the Debian VM, I'll be able to add a lot more functionality (say, adding Qodem and MultiMail) that will make it worth my while to own a new Chromeboox.

    I am not sure if I'd buy any more of these but if I do it'll probably become a cluster of aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu's.

    I haven't built a custom Linux setup in years...just don't care anymore, I guess.

    Later,
    Sean

    ... The reward of a thing well done is to have done it. - Ralph Waldo Emerson --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, May 20, 2019 15:18:32
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 15-May-2019 16:34 <=-

    the largest "drive" is under 520M, about 490M to be a little
    more precise... that's the one designated c:\
    Is the size due to DOS limitations or is that the actual size of the
    disk?

    Probably the DOS limitations, that was one of four partitions of the
    disk drive itself.... C, D, E, and F, with the last three each about
    250M and the first what was left over of the original drive...

    In the case of booting linux (slackware back then) the bios was
    limited but once the kernel got hold of the system then the full real
    size of the disk was available for whatever purpose was needed at the time. Usually I have seperate partitions for the root system, /home, archives/backups/source, and a spare partition for pure play usually
    next generation type activities. The one I am currently writing this reply on has 7 partitions and cannot boot the old fashioned i386
    method via the mbr so a boot partition is required as well as swap
    space which I normally don't have a need for.

    I'm not sure exactly what all Richard has set up here... E has the games
    and such, D is the one where most of the ongoing things happen, I think
    C is where all the executables and archives are... I use F to store
    things to get them off D to make space for more incoming, not sure what
    else he's tucked in there...

    you're speaking Wizard here
    I thought it was voodoo? Anyhow my mojo was working and it did work
    on it (ye olde 486 with the static bios). Only Linux though. :-)

    Oh, right... somewhere (I suppose on yet another partition) Windows 95
    used to reside to be called up when called for... now that's been taken
    off, and Linux put in to replace it...

    I'd guess that my requirements for a computer are a lot simpler
    than yours are.... ;)
    From this angle it looks to be exactly the same. We just have
    different approaches to the task at hand, as well as I tend to make simpler things appear more complicated then they need to be, such as taking a raspberrypi and creating a pure 64 bit system for it to do fidonet messaging, this reply being a prime example.

    I just need it to work (of course the Wizard is in charge of that aspect
    of things... [g])...

    Speaking of which, this is the first message/reply ever from the new
    pure 64 bit boot I like to call aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu.
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' starts }=-
    GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.29.
    Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
    There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
    Compiled by GNU CC version 9.1.0.
    libc ABIs: UNIQUE ABSOLUTE
    For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' ends }=-
    Most definetly voodoo.

    Agreed. :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Witches ride brooms because Nature abhors a vacuum

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 18:00:46
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 08-May-2019 03:50 <=-

    Richard got around that by partitioning the drive into segments
    that DOS could handle.... of course, this pentium's drive is
    less than 1G... ;)

    Yes but that only takes care of the DOS limitation and not the bios's.
    In the case of the 486 the bios couldn't handle drive sizes bigger
    than 520M so I had to lie about the geometry to the bios in order for
    it to get past the bios to the boot loader in order to boot whatever.

    Not sure but what that might also be the case here... I just checked,
    and the largest "drive" is under 520M, about 490M to be a little more precise... that's the one designated c:\

    However the only one that could boot successfully was lilo installed
    on the root partition (not the mbr) so that the kernel could correct
    the obviously 'haked' geometry and therefore utilize the entire drive
    no matter how it was then partitioned.

    Okay... you're speaking Wizard here.... and mine isn't around at the
    moment to translate... <G> I do have a rough Idea what you are saying, though.... ;)

    Also no bios upgrades back then. The only upgrade possible at that
    time was to solder on a whole new chip which is something I wasn't
    about to do. Anyhow I retired that computer not too long afterwards
    since it lacked any 32 bit pci slots which was the only sensible way
    to upgrade a pc with whatever looked to be attractive at the time,
    mostly network cards at that time.

    I'd guess that my requirements for a computer are a lot simpler than
    yours are.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Everything put together falls apart sooner or later.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)