On 07-31-19 18:54, Janis Kracht <=-
spoke to All about FidoGazette Vol 13 no 31 <=-
Status of the Echomail Robot
by Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, janis@filegate.net
Just a note to users of the Echolist:
Our Echomail robot replacement software is still under
construction and is diligently being worked on by Dale Barnes,
1:106/201. Thanks to Dale for the time he is putting into this!
Status of the Echomail Robot
by Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, janis@filegate.net
Just a note to users of the Echolist:
Our Echomail robot replacement software is still under
construction and is diligently being worked on by Dale Barnes,
1:106/201. Thanks to Dale for the time he is putting into this!
Glad to hear that someone has picked up the mantle for the Echolist, a
tool for moderators everywhere who might choose to use it.
Glad to hear that someone has picked up the mantle for the Echolist, a JK>> tool for moderators everywhere who might choose to use it.
Glad to hear that someone has picked up the mantle for the Echolist, a
tool for moderators everywhere who might choose to use it.
Yes, I need to send in an update for the echo I co-moderate.
On another note, I've had a hard time getting updates on the
FIDOGazette and other items from the IFDC website...is that fixed now??
Hi Daryl,
Dale Barnes is still working on the software/process (email and netmail JK>submissions). He's in touch with number of us and had us send in "test" JK>records so it seems to be moving along :) I am so thankful for the
work Dale is doing.
Do you mean the email issues of the fidogazette, or just downloading various JK>files,etc. ? Perhaps you are using the wrong port to grab the files? Here JK>the ports I'm using here:
WebBBS: Filegate.net:8090/bbbs
Telnet: filegate.net:2030
FTP: filegate.net:6072
...and then some days life gets completely bonkers here, and I don't have a JK>chance to update web pages at filegate.net ... this week was one of "those" JK>weeks. Ron found out via an MRI and other testing that he's got arthritis i JK>his spine. It's started causing incredible pain.. so much so that he can't JK>even sit at the dinner table for more than about 10 minutes.. he'll probably JK>have to have surgery or an injection of steroids in his spine to get some JK>relief..
Hi, Janis...
Dale Barnes is still working on the software/process (email and netmail
submissions). He's in touch with number of us and had us send in "test"
records so it seems to be moving along :) I am so thankful for the
work Dale is doing.
Agreed.
Do you mean the email issues of the fidogazette, or just downloading various >> files,etc. ? Perhaps you are using the wrong port to grab the files? Here >> the ports I'm using here:
WebBBS: Filegate.net:8090/bbbs
Telnet: filegate.net:2030
FTP: filegate.net:6072
I was just going through the browser to the IFDC website to download
them.
Janis Kracht wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
Do you mean the email issues of the fidogazette, or just downloading various files,etc. ? Perhaps you are using the wrong port to grab the files? Here are the ports I'm using here:
Hi Daryl..
Try again and let me know which file area you are having problems getting to JK>for downloading files. :)
Do you mean the email issues of the fidogazette, or just downloading
various files,etc. ? Perhaps you are using the wrong port to grab the
files? Here are the ports I'm using here:
One can grab the FG on my BBS' FTP server using anonymous FTP at bbsftp.outpotbbs.net in /pub/network/fidonet/fgazette.
I offer all of the file echoes I pull from Fidonet for FTP download in /pub/network/fidonet.
This access also works correctly using a modern Web browser for FTP access.
That's great, thanks for the info.. :)
Ward Dossche wrote to Janis Kracht <=-
Overhere that would mean, due to competition, by the 12th
every singleone of their customers would've switched and
they'd be broke.
Unless Dallas is in the situation where I am: there is but one single choice for an ISP in my area (there is satellite access but that's unreliable).
You either get access through this company -- in my case, it's CenturyLink
-- or you go without. CL is notorious for its lousy customer service and weeks-long wait times to get things fixed.
Overhere that would mean, due to competition, by the 12th
every singleone of their customers would've switched and
they'd be broke.
Unless Dallas is in the situation where I am: there is but one single choic for an ISP in my area (there is satellite access
but that's unreliable). You either get access through this company -- in m case, it's CenturyLink -- or you go without. CL is
I think Dallas gets the same choice I do here, either Telus (the telco) or
(the cable company). There is a new upstart here that I need to look into
but haven't had time lately.
I think Dallas gets the same choice I do here, either Telus (the telco) or >> (the cable company). There is a new upstart here that I need to look into
but haven't had time lately.
I think Dallas gets the same choice I do here, either Telus (the telco) or >> (the cable company). There is a new upstart here that I need to look into
but haven't had time lately.
There trucks have those animals on them too.. looks silly. Telus is my prov
currently because I don't know which I dislike more, Telus or Shaw.
There's a new company making the rounds here abouts, TekSavy I think they a called. I'm going to look them up.
Dallas told me the problem is out at the pole, so I don't know why theycan't get someone to climb the pole and fix their stuff.
Nick Andre wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
I'm not sure if I mentioned, but Canada is ruled by three major ISP monoplies; Bell, Rogers and Shaw. All three do not give two shits about rural customers and have their hands in the pockets of the government.
It does not matter if you go with a smaller ISP; in the end, the lines
and uplink are eventually leased from the big three.
Unless you have a business-grade connection, you are at the mercy of whenever they feel like fixing whatever line problems you have.
Alan Ianson wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Dallas told me the problem is out at the pole, so I don't know why they can't get someone to climb the pole and fix their stuff.
I'm not sure if I mentioned, but Canada is ruled by three major ISP monoplies; Bell, Rogers and Shaw. All three do not give two shits about rural customers and have their hands in the pockets of the government. Itdoes not matter if you go with a smaller ISP; in the end, the lines and uplink are eventually leased from the big
three.
We have had Teksavvy in Ontario for years now, they are a very good company
although they lease their upstream from Rogers and Bell and are at their mercy.
Dallas told me the problem is out at the pole, so I don't know why theycan't get someone to climb the pole and fix their stuff.
they can but not until the 12th... sounds to me like a broken splitter/junctio
box thing... likely can't fix that on a whim...
Suddenly we're now, for the first time in six years, getting our full
speed here for DSL (20 down, 2 up).
We have had Teksavvy in Ontario for years now, they are a very good company
That's the one I was thinking of. They haven't been operating here for long I'll have a talk with them.
With Telus port 21, 23, 25 and 80 are blocked. They were nice enough to ope port 23 for me. Now I run the BBS out of a linode so I don't have any block ports there. Shouldn't need to do that.
Unless you have a business-grade connection, you are at the mercy of whenever they feel like fixing whatever line problems you have.
Exactly. I think that CL thinks that people who live out in the country deserve lower quality service than people in larger towns and cities...
Nick Andre wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Have you ever considered getting a price quote for a business-class Internet connection? My experience has been that by the time you factor
in the cost of a contract and/or the desperation of the sales rep
wanting to give you a deal, it might be worth it?
On 09-09-19 11:21, Sean Dennis <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 n <=-
Suddenly we're now, for the first time in six years, getting our full speed here for DSL (20 down, 2 up).
All I can say is WOW, that sucks. It is bad to live out of a major
area.
I agree they should take the time needed for the fix.. but two weeks?
I hope Dallas will get a credit on his bill for the down time.
Unless Dallas is in the situation where I am: there is but one single choice for an ISP in my area (there is satellite access
but that's unreliable). You either get access through this company -- in my case, it's CenturyLink -- or you go without. CL is
notorious for its lousy customer service and weeks-long wait times to get things fixed.
Have you ever considered getting a price quote for a business-class Internet connection? My experience has been that by the time you factor in the costof a
contract and/or the desperation of the sales rep wanting to give you a deal,it
might
be worth it?
Nick
Have you ever considered getting a price quote for a business-class Internet connection?
At least we have access. I'm not complaining. Like I said in an
earlier message, I really don't use the bandwidth. I'm at the point now
to where if I wasn't running a telnet-capable BBS, I'd just go back to dialup.
Personally, I'm tempted to start a new dial-up only BBS. But I suspect I will get about zero callers.
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer
dial-up. And more users switch off their routers and
dust off their modems.
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. And more users
switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
At 9:29 AM on 10 Sep 19, Sean Dennis said to Dale Shipp:
At least we have access. I'm not complaining. Like I said in an
earlier message, I really don't use the bandwidth. I'm at the point now
to where if I wasn't running a telnet-capable BBS, I'd just go back to
dialup.
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. And more users switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
With cheap second hand modems aplenty and landlines generally sitting unused, I imagine for some sysops this wouldn't be such a major task/outlay. But would there be the users who would call? I think there's a bit of a network effect problem going on here...sysops don't feel there's people that still want to use dial-up, and users don't bother with modems because so few boards offer a number to call. Or probably more realistically, very few people even care.
Personally, I'm tempted to start a new dial-up only BBS. But I suspect I will get about zero callers.
* Q-Blue 2.4 *
Hi Simon,
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer
dial-up. And more users switch off their routers and
dust off their modems.
With dialup lines costing nearly double of a broadband connections in my
area, I seriously doubt I'll be able to afford it anytime soon.
I don't get enough callers (even when I did have a POTS line) to justify
that cost.
I always liked dial-up BBSes.
I think that besudes the fact some people don't know how to use a modem
anymore, there are also 2 small problems: - Dial-up over VoIP lines can be
a little tricky - most modern machines don't have serial ports anymore,
and the best modems out there are still serial devices...
Just my thoughts...
At 9:29 AM on 10 Sep 19, Sean Dennis said to Dale Shipp:
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. And more
users switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
With cheap second hand modems aplenty and landlines generally sitting
unused, I imagine for some sysops this wouldn't be such a major
task/outlay. But would there be the users who would call? I think there's
a bit of a network effect problem going on here...sysops don't feel
there's people that still want to use dial-up, and users don't bother with
modems because so few boards offer a number to call. Or probably more
realistically, very few people even care.
Personally, I'm tempted to start a new dial-up only BBS. But I suspect I
will get about zero callers.
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. And more MP>users
switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
I have a dial up system - 1-502-875-8938
Besides.. the modem technology is fickle, and slow.
Your user-range would be extremely limited. The modem would probably sit AA>silent for long periods of time! :(
Hi August,
Besides.. the modem technology is fickle, and slow.
I disagree. In all of the data centers I have ever worked at, there has -always- been one POTS connection as an emergency backup. The POTS system is actually much more reliable than the Internet physically but yes, it's slow, which is why it fell out of favor.
Telnet is actually quite slow when you get into the specifics of it and can be rather unreliable.
Technically, using SSH is much more secure and
reliable than telnet.
At least we have access. I'm not complaining. Like I said in an
earlier message, I really don't use the bandwidth. I'm at the point now
to where if I wasn't running a telnet-capable BBS, I'd just go back to dialup.
Personally, I'm tempted to start a new dial-up only BBS. But Isuspect I
will get about zero callers.
Yeah, 28.8Kbps (or 33.6Kbps if you're really lucky) is slower than you remember! :-)
Sorry to butt in
but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. And more user switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
With cheap second hand modems aplenty and landlines generally sitting unused,
imagine for some sysops this wouldn't be such a major task/outlay. But would there be the users who would call? I think there's a bit of a network effect
problem going on here...sysops don't feel there's people that still want to us
dial-up, and users don't bother with modems because so few boards offer a number to call. Or probably more realistically, very few people even care.
Personally, I'm tempted to start a new dial-up only BBS. But I suspect I will get about zero callers.
At present, I have a US Robotics external v.92 56K Fax Modem. However,
I'm not about to pay $75 a month for a vanilla phone line, just to get dial-up BBS callers...
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. Andmore
users
switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
I have a dial up system - 1-502-875-8938
I think you just succeeded in talking yourself out of that project! LOL
Your user-range would be extremely limited. The modem would probably
sit silent for long periods of time! :(
Mike,
Sorry to butt in - but I hope more BBSes start to offer dial-up. And more MP>users
switch off their routers and dust off their modems.
I have a dial up system - 1-502-875-8938
At present, I have a US Robotics external v.92 56K Fax Modem. However, I'm not about to pay $75 a month for a vanilla phone line, just to get dial-up BBS callers...especially after the rude way my late Mom and
myself were treated by AT&T "customer service personnel" (I use the term loosely). On a call, when I demanded to speak to a supervisor, they hung
up on me. When I dialed back, and was told "this call may be monitored
or recorded", I said "It damn sure better be, for ahat I'm going to
say".
I apologized to my Mom for cussing in front of her, but when I asked
"can you blame me for my outburst?", she said "No"...she was there and heard everything that happened.
As for cellphone service, I'm with Straight Talk, and it's the best cellphone package I've ever had...$50 a month with tax, and I get 25 Gigabytes of data, before it gets throttled down. I use nowhere near
that amount each month. And, with the rewards plan, some months, I can claim the points, so I get a free month of cellphone service.
But back to the dial-up, those modems only really work with analog
lines, and not with VoIP lines. Yet, I wonder what the fax machines are working with...since practically all the old analog lines are now digital/VoIP. If there was a way to make that work, I'd put dial-up
access back on the BBS...but I saw a comment from Rob Swindell (aka
digital man), author of Synchronet, noting that "28.8 and 33.6 aren't as fast as you remember them".
At present, I have a US Robotics external v.92 56K Fax Modem. However, MP>> I'm not about to pay $75 a month for a vanilla phone line, just to get MP>> dial-up BBS callers...
Here it is a part of the local utility company so I pay less than half MP>that.
Simon Geddes wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Forgive my ignorance...what's a POTS line? Is this the same
as an analogue landline?
(You are witnessing life without the internet in action - the old me
Dan Clough wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Excellent! I didn't intend my above comment to Daryl as anything
bad, just didn't really see the relevance of him putting it like
that... I fully grasp the pride you have in the callsign and
understand it completely. Something I have thought about getting
into for years (decades?) but just never have. Maybe when I
retire... Thanks and 73!
Simon Geddes wrote to Andrei Rachita <=-
I had wondered about VoIP as a solution to diminishing landlines -
didn't know data signals over VoIP are problematic.
The biggest issue I have faced is just getting old terminal software running on a more moderm OS (MorphOS). Everything seems to half-
work. Not like first time around in the mid-ninties, where
the process seemed to be very plain sailing. I've
definitely wanted to give up a few times!
Sean Dennis wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Excellent! I didn't intend my above comment to Daryl as anything
bad, just didn't really see the relevance of him putting it like
that... I fully grasp the pride you have in the callsign and
understand it completely. Something I have thought about getting
into for years (decades?) but just never have. Maybe when I
retire... Thanks and 73!
I don't think Daryl would have taken your comment as anything but
unsure. :) Amateur radio has its own unique culture and with
that, we hams do spend a bit of time explaining our habits to
non-hams. It's all part of the fun of amateur radio.
It's very easy to become a ham these days in the US since there's
no code requirement. I recently (in June) upgraded to my Extra
class because I just wanted to.
There are a lot of amateur radio operators in Fidonet and in
BBSing in general. The spirit of BBSing and amateur radio
overlap in many areas so I've found it's very common.
Rob Swindell is a ham. I don't remember his callsign off the top
of my head.
I know we've kinda strayed off-topic here so I'll invite you over
to the HAM echo if you want to chat more. I know the moderator;
he's a friend. ;)
(You are witnessing life without the internet in action - the old me
I don't get on too much these days though I do enjoy getting on IRC
every so often. My Internet usage has dropped considerably these days.
I had wondered about VoIP as a solution to diminishing landlines -
didn't know data signals over VoIP are problematic.
It's in the analog-to-digital conversion. To greatly oversimplify for
the sake of brevity, analog signals are 'chopped' at certain frequencies
to fit within a digital sine wave and that can cause issues with data
loss.
The biggest issue I have faced is just getting old terminal software running on a more moderm OS (MorphOS). Everything seems to half-
work. Not like first time around in the mid-ninties, where
the process seemed to be very plain sailing. I've
definitely wanted to give up a few times!
I use Qodem (qodem.sourceforge.net) on Windows 10 and Slackware Linux without issue.
Simon Geddes wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Makes sense. I wonder if the analog signal could be scaled or processed
in some way to still work. Anything is possible I suppose, if
there's sufficient will.
Good to know. I've heard of minicom as another Linux
option, which I was planning to use with Ubuntu and an
external USB>serial modem I have. ZTerm workswell with this
Mac's internal 56.6k modem, on OS X.
Simon Geddes wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Great! Have you consciously tried to reduce your usage?
ps. I think I spent most of the 2000s on IRC!
| Sysop: | Zazz |
|---|---|
| Location: | Mesquite, Tx |
| Users: | 7 |
| Nodes: | 4 (0 / 4) |
| Uptime: | 16:06:10 |
| Calls: | 157 |
| Files: | 2,118 |
| Messages: | 146,564 |