• Fidonet NL with AKAs

    From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tommi Koivula on Sunday, March 24, 2019 01:44:26
    Tommi Koivula : Dan Cross wrote:

    Why should anyone move to any other zone? There are no overlapping
    networks anymore, so anyone might use any zone 1,2,3,4 or even 6...

    So I could have akas 1:221/360 and 3:221/360 as well as 2:221/360. :)

    Now *that's* clever.

    .../|ug

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to August Abolins on Sunday, March 24, 2019 09:53:51
    Hi! August,

    On 24 Mar 19 01:44, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    So I could have akas 1:221/360 and 3:221/360 as well as 2:221/360.
    :)

    Now *that's* clever.

    Routed netmail would have a 33.33% chance of success, of course. Maybe we would need to re-constitute zoneGates... certainly the increase in traffic could please some mail flow staticians. Etcetera, etcetera... etcetera(channeling Yul Brunner). :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to August Abolins on Sunday, March 24, 2019 01:53:07
    So I could have akas 1:221/360 and 3:221/360 as well as 2:221/360. :)

    Now *that's* clever.

    You mean as a way to inflate the nodelist by 300% and claim spectacular growth?
    {What? No zone-4?}

    Keeping in mind the total lack of competence of certain participants in the forwarding-departement of netmail, I'd like to think that routing would become a nightmare and at selected nodes a disaster.

    Not that it matters to you because as a BBS-user you are not affected.

    \%/@rd

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to August Abolins on Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:40:56
    On 24/03/2019 09:44, August Abolins -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    Why should anyone move to any other zone? There are no overlapping
    networks anymore, so anyone might use any zone 1,2,3,4 or even 6...

    So I could have akas 1:221/360 and 3:221/360 as well as 2:221/360. :)

    Now *that's* clever.

    It does sound that way... but how would I route/deliver a netmail to a node in a non-nodelisted net?

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Paul Quinn on Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:58:27
    On 24/03/2019 09:53, Paul Quinn -> August Abolins wrote:

    So I could have akas 1:221/360 and 3:221/360 as well as 2:221/360.
    :)

    Now *that's* clever.

    Routed netmail would have a 33.33% chance of success, of course. Maybe
    we would need to re-constitute zoneGates... certainly the increase in traffic could please some mail flow staticians. Etcetera, etcetera... etcetera(channeling Yul Brunner). :)

    Wouldn't the given net number need to appear in each zone's internal routing tables?

    Then again if we do away with zone numbers that might fuck that up....

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to David Drummond on Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:53:12
    Hi! David,

    On 24 Mar 19 10:58, you wrote to me:

    increase in traffic could please some mail flow staticians.
    Etcetera, etcetera... etcetera(channeling Yul Brunner). :)

    Wouldn't the given net number need to appear in each zone's internal routing tables?

    Yes. As Ward Dossche intimated, we'd have to have AKAs in all available zones.
    I like the idea of tripling the size of the nodelist but that's a cheap shot.

    Then again if we do away with zone numbers that might fuck that up....

    Fuck yeah! From your name, I'd have to pick you as a Zone 2-er, writing from a
    Scotish manorhouse. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Ward Dossche on Sunday, March 24, 2019 05:01:41
    Ward Dossche : August Abolins wrote:

    You mean as a way to inflate the nodelist by 300% and claim spectacular growth? {What? No zone-4?}

    This could be an example where NL growth good be a good thing. ;)


    Keeping in mind the total lack of competence of certain participants in
    the forwarding-departement of netmail, I'd like to think that routing
    would become a nightmare and at selected nodes a disaster.

    Yes.. there is that teeny tiny issue. :) lol


    Not that it matters to you because as a BBS-user you are not affected.

    It is not fair to presume that it does not matter to me.
    I recommend you strike down "sysop" of MSGID: 2:221/360 5c960238 of the the original idea before you strike me. I really don't want a reason to not like you. ;)

    Cheers!
    .../|ug

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Paul Quinn on Sunday, March 24, 2019 14:27:11
    On 24/03/2019 12:53, Paul Quinn -> David Drummond wrote:

    Etcetera, etcetera... etcetera(channeling Yul Brunner). :)

    Wouldn't the given net number need to appear in each zone's internal
    routing tables?

    Yes. As Ward Dossche intimated, we'd have to have AKAs in all available zones. I like the idea of tripling the size of the nodelist but that's
    a cheap shot.

    Then again if we do away with zone numbers that might fuck that up....

    Fuck yeah! From your name, I'd have to pick you as a Zone 2-er, writing from a Scotish manorhouse. ;)

    When in fact we both know that I'm an estranged Kiwi writing from a tin shed in
    the Aussie bush (when I'm here that is, and not touring somewhere else, then I'm writing from a camper)...

    --

    Gang warily (yeah, that might have Scottish origins)
    David

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Paul Quinn on Sunday, March 24, 2019 14:35:16
    On 24/03/2019 12:53, Paul Quinn -> David Drummond wrote:

    <Afterthought>

    From your name, I'd have to pick you as a Zone 2-er, writing
    from a Scottish manorhouse. ;)

    From time to time I have thought of going to Scotland and claiming land rights on Drummond Castle in Perthshire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drummond_Castle).

    It looks a lot greener there than here and I bet it's not 37C all the bloody time either.

    What a pity my passport has expired and I'm too tight to renew it without having an actual trip planned.

    It's also cheaper to drive to Perth Western Australia than fly to Perthshire in
    Scotland.

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to David Drummond on Sunday, March 24, 2019 07:13:38
    What a pity my passport has expired and I'm too tight to renew it without having an actual trip planned.

    Is that a requirement? No passport until you have a trip planned ?

    \%/@rd

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Ward Dossche on Sunday, March 24, 2019 19:42:42
    On 24/03/2019 07:13, Ward Dossche -> David Drummond wrote:

    What a pity my passport has expired and I'm too tight to renew it without
    having an actual trip planned.

    Is that a requirement? No passport until you have a trip planned ?

    Yes, a personal requirement - passports expire even when not used.

    Last time I renewed it on the off chance I might take a trip to Britain. I didn't end up going, nor anywhere else thus wasting the fees.

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to August Abolins on Sunday, March 24, 2019 17:12:36
    24 Mar 19 01:44, August Abolins wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Tommi Koivula : Dan Cross wrote:

    Why should anyone move to any other zone? There are no overlapping
    networks anymore, so anyone might use any zone 1,2,3,4 or even 6...

    So I could have akas 1:221/360 and 3:221/360 as well as 2:221/360. :)

    Now *that's* clever.

    Of course it is. :-D

    'Tommi

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to David Drummond on Monday, March 25, 2019 17:17:00
    On 03-24-19 19:42, David Drummond wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

    Is that a requirement? No passport until you have a trip planned ?

    Yes, a personal requirement - passports expire even when not used.

    Yeah I do the same. Never got one, until I had an overseas trip planned, and haven't renewed it, as I've had no trips since that one.


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