• Ten Years Ago.

    From Henri Derksen@2:280/1208 to Nick Andre on Saturday, June 15, 2019 03:09:00
    Hello Nick,

    But the nodelist is just a text file that lists connectivity information.

    You really think so?
    There is much dead wood in it, that should be cleared up I think.

    I donot think, Hold, Down or PVT, is connection info.

    Henri.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Henri Derksen on Sunday, June 16, 2019 12:08:11
    On 15 Jun 19 03:09:00, Henri Derksen said the following to Nick Andre:

    But the nodelist is just a text file that lists connectivity information.

    You really think so?

    What else should it be used for?

    Nick

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Nick Andre on Monday, June 17, 2019 07:25:59
    On 16/06/2019 12:08, Nick Andre -> Henri Derksen wrote:

    But the nodelist is just a text file that lists connectivity information.

    You really think so?

    What else should it be used for?

    Compensation perhaps?

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    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Henri Derksen@2:280/1208 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 00:01:00
    Hello Nick,

    But the nodelist is just a text file that lists connectivity information. HD>> You really think so?
    What else should it be used for?

    You do not get my point.

    There is too much inconnectivity in the NodeList.
    You can call that garbage.

    And you think this IS/HAS connect info:

    NodeList> Pvt,1466,Owls_Anchor,Columbia_MD,Dale_Shipp,-Unpublished-,9600,XX,MO

    Sorry, but such systems are only acting as a point.
    Not a crash Net reachable Node by others, no phonenumber, no IP information, wrong baudrate, no BBS as the MO flag is listed,
    and no FileRequests, as shown by the XX flag are also not possible (anymore). So it does not proof any form of connectivity, not a single one ;-(.
    At least the 9600 should be 300, and the XX removed.

    The same goes on for many other nodes with Pvt, Hold, Down, etc.
    Some are even there unreachable for many years as Kees van Eeten has prooven. I.e. HostNames not converting to IP numbers, bad DNServers etc.
    so there is incomplete not working connect info.
    Al that kind of systems are the dead wood garbage in the NodeList.
    2% of faults is normal, 5 % max, but if more, then somthing is terribly wrong. Many *C's are not doing their job's, so the upper level should correct it,
    and in the end that are the ZC's, does not matter which Zone.
    The garbage is everywhere.

    Second, the NodeList is also a BBSlist for manual modem callers to log in,
    many people forget that. FidoNet was originally a net of connected BBSes,
    from witch EchoMail was an important flavor to reduce calling all systems.

    At InterNet there are Forum's, but they are mostly not connected to more hosts. So everyone has to enter an acoount and start his question again
    on other forums with the same topic ;-(.
    That's a waste the InertNet people did not learn from FidoNet ;-(.
    They should start connecting Forums wih the same topic together.
    Another disadvanteage of Forums is that replies on old messages are made impossable ;-(.

    Henri.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Henri Derksen on Thursday, June 20, 2019 02:34:02
    On 06-19-19 00:01, Henri Derksen <=-
    spoke to Nick Andre about Ten Years Ago. <=-

    And you think this IS/HAS connect info:

    NodeList> Pvt,1466,Owls_Anchor,Columbia_MD,Dale_Shipp,-Unpublished-,9600,XX,MO

    Not sure why you picked me out of the crowd of PVT nodes that exist:-}}

    Sorry, but such systems are only acting as a point.

    Nope.

    Not a crash Net reachable Node by others, no phonenumber, no IP information, wrong baudrate, no BBS as the MO flag is listed,
    and no FileRequests, as shown by the XX flag are also not possible (anymore). So it does not proof any form of connectivity, not a single
    one ;-(. At least the 9600 should be 300, and the XX removed.

    The entry is what my NC made when he assigned me a node many years ago.
    Reading the nodelist today, I can see that you are right about the 300
    versus 9600 ( which was the baud rate of my modem when I had one). I understand your point about the XX, I seem to recall that it simply
    indicated the type of mailer I had which has been IM and then Argus.
    BUT, I do operate a BBS with users even though I do not accept incoming connects -- and never have done so.

    I'll send a netmail to my NC and mention that the XX should be removed
    and baud rate changed to 300.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Henri Derksen on Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:00:15
    Henri,

    Many *C's are not doing their job's, so the upper level should correct
    it, and in the end that are the ZC's, does not matter which Zone.
    The garbage is everywhere.

    I have a sign lying around somewhere "I will not critisize my neighbor until I have walked a mile in his moccasins".

    Your theoretical musings show very little understanding how things are made to work. 3 out of 4 ZCs 'are' doing a good job!

    We know about particular anomalies in the nodelist but in certain locations you
    just have to make do with who-ever is still left there ... up to the RC-level in certain cases. There may not be any viable people anymore in certain cases when a particular *C skips a beat.

    And Dale has been a respected contributor for years, I'd like more people like him in the nodelist.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, June 20, 2019 14:00:36
    And Dale has been a respected contributor for years, I'd like more
    people like him in the nodelist.

    So "Nodelisted Sysop" should be used as an honorary title, and the nodelist should not be used for contact info then?



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Thursday, June 20, 2019 15:51:20
    And Dale has been a respected contributor for years, I'd like more BF>WD> people like him in the nodelist.

    So "Nodelisted Sysop" should be used as an honorary title, and the
    nodelist should not be used for contact info then?

    Something like that other honorary title "Fidonews Editor" you mean ?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Henri Derksen on Thursday, June 20, 2019 08:58:00
    On 19 Jun 19 00:01:00, Henri Derksen said the following to Nick Andre:

    Many *C's are not doing their job's, so the upper level should correct it, and in the end that are the ZC's, does not matter which Zone.
    The garbage is everywhere.

    The last time I checked, my system is producing the Zone 1 Nodelist like clockwork. And the last time I checked, I am not being paid a salary to do so.

    If my answers are not satisfactory and cause you emotional distress,
    or you are not prepared to pay me a salary to have better "quality of
    service" for your Fido needs, perhaps you should consider a different hobby such as a book club, sewing, knitting, collecting pictures of cakes, etc.

    Nick

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, June 20, 2019 16:55:06
    Hello Dale,

    On Thursday June 20 2019 02:34, you wrote to Henri Derksen:

    I understand your point about the XX, I seem to recall that it simply indicated the type of mailer I had which has been IM and then Argus.

    The XX indicates that you support Wazoo type file requests and file update requests. File requests can not be routed and you do not accept direct calls...

    fts-5001 par 5.4

    BUT, I do operate a BBS with users

    So you say. But three days ago you wrote:

    I don't run a server.

    A BBS is a server. So what is it?

    even though I do not accept incoming connects -- and never have done
    so.

    What is the point of running a BBS if you do not accept incoming calls? Why do I (again) get the impression that you are not telling the full story?

    I'll send a netmail to my NC and mention that the XX should be removed
    and baud rate changed to 300.

    The MO flag makes no sense either if you do run a BBS but accept no incoming calls.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thursday, June 20, 2019 13:36:02
    On 2019 Jun 20 16:55:06, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

    BUT, I do operate a BBS with users

    So you say. But three days ago you wrote:

    I don't run a server.

    A BBS is a server. So what is it?

    he runs a BBS that is not connected to the net... he doesn't/didn't think of a BBS as being a server...

    even though I do not accept incoming connects -- and never have done
    so.

    What is the point of running a BBS if you do not accept incoming calls?
    Why
    do I (again) get the impression that you are not telling the full story?

    QWK offline mail bundles transferred via email to each user... to get an account, you send him the particulars needed and he sets it up... then you do QWK mail from there adding/removing areas, reading/writing messages, etc all using email transfers... you get a blahblah.qwk in your email, save it to disk,
    fire you your QWK reader... any replies are put into a blahblah.rep bundle which you then email back where it is processed by and imported into the BBS message areas... from there, normal FTN ops take over and he polls his link(s) to send/receive FTN mail...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, June 20, 2019 23:36:13
    Something like that other honorary title "Fidonews Editor" you mean ?

    Nothing much of an honour there, it's just an alias.



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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to BjöRn Felten on Thursday, June 20, 2019 18:10:23
    On 20 Jun 19 23:36:13, Bj*Rn Felten said the following to Ward Dossche:

    Something like that other honorary title "Fidonews Editor" you mean ?

    Nothing much of an honour there, it's just an alias.

    I have the title of "slappy", and there is some honour in that.

    Nick

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Friday, June 21, 2019 01:21:04
    On 06-20-19 16:55, Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Ten Years Ago. <=-

    I understand your point about the XX, I seem to recall that it simply indicated the type of mailer I had which has been IM and then Argus.

    MVDV> The XX indicates that you support Wazoo type file requests
    MVDV> and file update requests. File requests can not be routed
    MVDV> and you do not accept direct calls...

    Granted. The XX was put on there by my NC when he assigned me a node.

    BUT, I do operate a BBS with users

    MVDV> So you say. But three days ago you wrote:

    I don't run a server.

    MVDV> A BBS is a server. So what is it?

    Both.

    even though I do not accept incoming connects -- and never have done
    so.

    MVDV> What is the point of running a BBS if you do not accept
    MVDV> incoming calls? Why do I (again) get the impression that
    MVDV> you are not telling the full story?

    I run a BBS for myself and for my users (plural). They do not connect
    with my BBS directly. They connect with my BBS via sending an email
    message which then spawns a process to sign into the BBS *locally*.
    Another process is spawned via a cron type event at specified times
    during the day to send them messages via an email. This is how they
    receive echo messages and submit replies.

    I'll send a netmail to my NC and mention that the XX should be removed
    and baud rate changed to 300.

    MVDV> The MO flag makes no sense either if you do run a BBS but
    MVDV> accept no incoming calls.

    Your statement makes no sense. MO explicitly says that my node does not
    accept human callers. And it does not.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Henri Derksen on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 02:01:00
    On 06-25-19 10:37, Henri Derksen <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Ten Years Ago. <=-

    Not sure why you picked me out of the crowd of PVT nodes that exist:-}}

    It was because someone wrote you had a BBS,

    That I do.

    so I rememberd your name and looked it up.

    Why no connect info then?,
    not even your IP or E-Mail adress.

    I am PVT with decent cause, as accepted by the various *Cs who have
    issued the node and/or reviewed it.

    BUT, I do operate a BBS with users even though I do not accept incoming connects -- and never have done so.

    Why not make the connect info public?

    For private reasons that I will discuss only with those in the chain of command, so to speak.

    I'll send a netmail to my NC and mention that the XX should be removed
    and baud rate changed to 300.

    Thanks for your kind answers,

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to David Drummond on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 05:09:04
    On 2019 Jun 26 11:57:36, you wrote to Bjrn Felten:

    Isn't it funny how the Euro-boys, who claim to hate
    everything/anything about the USA, sure like to get involved in how
    we do things? Haven't been able to figure out why yet...

    How could you, being a Fidonet n00b like yourself?

    And that the "Euro-boys" make up the vast majority of nodes

    i don't see any of the members of the largest region in here sticking their noses into other regions or zones business... i do see them doing their own thing, though...

    they could win any vote put to the popular vote.

    that one region would certainly win if percentages were used instead of raw count numbers... in fact there was a *C that tried to use that region to stack the deck in their favor at one time but we won't go down that rabbit hole today...

    Maybe us "smaller" zones (Z1,3 and so on) should shut up...

    some Z2 regions also fall into there, too...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 05:15:38
    On 2019 Jun 25 21:49:00, you wrote to me:

    well, admittedly, back in the day, there were quite a few Z1 folks
    that stuck their noses into other zone's business on a fairly regular
    basis... in some ways, karma is returning... unfortunately it is
    being cast upon folks who weren't involved or even around back
    then... things are a whole lot calmer these days than they were...

    ACK. I know, and was just poking a little fun. At least one of them (Euro-boys) seems to have gotten a little butt-hurt. <SHRUG>

    assuming you are the dan clough listed the nodelist for Illinois back in '93, yeah, you could easily be aware of the mess that was going in the main sysops echos on back then ;)

    there are many from that period that aren't aware of the stuff that went on... they just didn't venture into those areas... for the most part they stayed in the areas they were interested in and maybe their net's areas... i've met a few
    who knew of some rumblings here and there but didn't know the details...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Henri Derksen on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 09:03:09
    On 25 Jun 19 10:39:00, Henri Derksen said the following to Nick Andre:

    If you can not handle critics, something is wrong in your head.

    What critics??? You? Wilfred? Michiel? Lee who is on "probation status"?

    Hahahahahahahahaha...... I love how all of you clowns get so emotionally disturbed and upset over trivial nodelist shit, in a silly message network
    only a tiny fraction of world cares to use anymore.

    The NodeList is for connecting info, not for heroes of the past.

    It must be fun sailing with Captain Obvious!

    Nick

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to mark lewis on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 07:49:00
    mark lewis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    well, admittedly, back in the day, there were quite a few Z1 folks
    that stuck their noses into other zone's business on a fairly regular
    basis... in some ways, karma is returning... unfortunately it is
    being cast upon folks who weren't involved or even around back
    then... things are a whole lot calmer these days than they were...

    ACK. I know, and was just poking a little fun. At least one of them (Euro-boys) seems to have gotten a little butt-hurt. <SHRUG>

    assuming you are the dan clough listed the nodelist for Illinois
    back in '93, yeah, you could easily be aware of the mess that was
    going in the main sysops echos on back then ;)

    Yep, that's me. I was somewhat aware, but too busy to care. ;)

    there are many from that period that aren't aware of the stuff
    that went on... they just didn't venture into those areas... for
    the most part they stayed in the areas they were interested in
    and maybe their net's areas... i've met a few who knew of some
    rumblings here and there but didn't know the details...

    Yeah, I was probably somewhere in the middle of that scale.
    Followed a lot of echos and had limited time between job and
    family raising. I was aware of the "zone wars" somewhat but
    Fidonet was so big back then that it didn't really seem like "that
    stuff" mattered too much to me (individual sysops). Plus we had
    plenty of squabbles within the local net over cost recovery plans
    and the like. Also it seemed like it took a lot more time/effort
    to keep the mailer/bbs running smoothly. Always a tweak to make
    in the master batch file and all the various individual configs
    for all the added utilities that were in use. Good times.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 23:50:51
    Hello Bjrn,

    Isn't it funny how the Euro-boys, who claim to
    hate everything/anything about the USA, sure like to get involved
    in how we do things? Haven't been able to figure out why yet...

    How could you, being a Fidonet n00b like yourself?

    Once a n00b always a n00b.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 23:50:59
    Hello Dan,

    [..]

    That does not count either. You wanted to do volunteer work, so
    paymant does not matter. If you can not handle critics, something is
    wrong in your head.

    ever hear the term "go pound salt"?

    I love that saying! Note to self - use it more often. Would make
    an excellent New Year's Resolution.

    We have plenty of salt in Louisiana. But sometimes the salt
    domes collapse when poked by an oil company drilling for oil.
    A few years ago, such an event emptied an entire lake, with
    two fishermen getting stuck on the bottom of the lake after
    the water ran out.

    Systems without connect info should not be listed in a phone book,
    the same as secret phonenumbers are not listed by the phone company.
    The NodeList is for connecting info, not for heroes of the past.

    why are you being a dick, henri? don't be a dick... they're ugly
    and always getting people into trouble...

    Very true all around.

    Women love my dick. They call it the most "beautiful thing in the
    world" - knowing I aim to please.

    go sail your boat and tend to business in your net and zone, eh?

    Great suggestion!

    FidoNet is a community of sysops (and others) from around the world,
    not separate individuals each on his/her own island having nothing to
    share with others.

    Isn't it funny how the Euro-boys, who claim to hate everything/anything about the USA, sure like to get involved
    in how we do things?

    How the USA does things affects many peoples around the world.
    Not always in a good way.

    Haven't been able to figure out why yet... :-)

    Your president is like an old woman - he is a whiner, a miser,
    and a nag. He really does have a lot of growing up to do if he
    expects anybody to take him seriously.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to mark lewis on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 23:51:28
    Hello mark,

    [..]

    if you stick your dick in a bear trap, don't you expect that trap to snap shut on it?

    I must say I never tried that before. What was it like?
    Did the bear die of laughter after the inevitable happened?

    tend your business, man... or go sailing again ;)

    I have a pirogue. And a paddle. Does that count?

    --Lee

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 18:31:06
    On 26 Jun 19 23:50:59, Lee Lofaso said the following to Dan Clough:

    Very true all around.

    Women love my dick. They call it the most "beautiful thing in the
    world" - knowing I aim to please.

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 18:25:01
    On 25 Jun 19 22:06:00, Dan Clough said the following to Bj*Rn Felten:

    Isn't it funny how the Euro-boys, who claim to
    hate everything/anything about the USA, sure like to get involved
    in how we do things? Haven't been able to figure out why yet...

    How could you, being a Fidonet n00b like yourself?

    My last sentence there was sarcasm, old-timer. Right over your
    head. I know *EXACTLY* why you Euro-boys are all up in the USA's business.

    Certain Zone 1 Sysops such as my ZC1 predecessor and key members of the NAB distribution model, at one time have been "all up" in other zone's
    business. Honestly I believe that is the real reason for some of the anti-USA rants that end up getting started here.

    Now that those certain individuals are gone, dead or largely ignored, there is a relative amount of calm after the storm.

    "My country is better than yours" type of conversations usually end up going into pointless insults. Comparisons to Hitler, Trump sucks, Europe sucks, you suck, yes but you suck more, I know you are but what am I, type of nonsense.

    Nobody wins in the end... just my two cents.

    Nick

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 19:29:00
    Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    DC> Isn't it funny how the Euro-boys, who claim to
    DC> hate everything/anything about the USA, sure like to get involved
    DC> in how we do things? Haven't been able to figure out why yet...

    BF> How could you, being a Fidonet n00b like yourself?

    My last sentence there was sarcasm, old-timer. Right over your
    head. I know *EXACTLY* why you Euro-boys are all up in the USA's business.

    Certain Zone 1 Sysops such as my ZC1 predecessor and key members
    of the NAB distribution model, at one time have been "all up" in
    other zone's business. Honestly I believe that is the real reason
    for some of the anti-USA rants that end up getting started here.

    Yes, I agree, and that is what I was referring to there above.

    Now that those certain individuals are gone, dead or largely
    ignored, there is a relative amount of calm after the storm.

    "My country is better than yours" type of conversations usually
    end up going into pointless insults. Comparisons to Hitler, Trump
    sucks, Europe sucks, you suck, yes but you suck more, I know you
    are but what am I, type of nonsense.

    Agreed again.

    Nobody wins in the end... just my two cents.

    Absolutely right. I ignore most of the stupidity, but sometimes
    can't resist poking them a little. Several are on my "ignore"
    list already.


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dan Clough on Thursday, June 27, 2019 09:40:14
    On 26 Jun 19 19:29:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick Andre:

    Nobody wins in the end... just my two cents.

    Absolutely right. I ignore most of the stupidity, but sometimes
    can't resist poking them a little. Several are on my "ignore"
    list already.

    Never underestimate the power of the Next key...

    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Thursday, June 27, 2019 17:50:10
    [..]

    Now that those certain individuals are gone, dead or largely
    ignored, there is a relative amount of calm after the storm.

    "My country is better than yours" type of conversations usually
    end up going into pointless insults. Comparisons to Hitler, Trump
    sucks, Europe sucks, you suck, yes but you suck more, I know you
    are but what am I, type of nonsense.

    Agreed again.

    Nobody wins in the end... just my two cents.

    Absolutely right. I ignore most of the stupidity, but sometimes
    can't resist poking them a little. Several are on my "ignore"
    list already.

    And the winner is ...

    My Dog's Bigger Than Yours
    ~ Tom Paxton

    My dog's bigger than your dog,
    My dog's bigger than yours,
    My dog's bigger
    And he chases mailmen,
    My dog's bigger than yours.

    My dog's better than your dog,
    My dog's better than yours,
    His name is King,
    And he had puppies,
    My dog's better than yours.

    My dad's tougher than your dad,
    My dad's tougher than yours,
    My dad's tougher
    And he yells louder and
    My dad's tougher than yours.

    My dad's louder than your dad,
    My dad's louder than yours,
    Momma buys a new dress,
    Daddy makes noises,
    My dad's louder than yours.

    Our car's faster than your car,
    Our car's faster than yours,
    It has a louder horn,
    It bumps other cars,
    Our car's faster than yours.

    Our car's older than your car,
    Our car's older than yours,
    It stops running and
    Daddy kicks the fenders,
    Our car's older than yours.

    My Mom's older than your Mom,
    My Mom's older than yours,
    She takes smelly baths
    She hides the gray hairs
    My Mom's older than yours.

    My Mom's funnier than your Mom,
    My Mom's funnier than yours,
    Her hair is pretty and
    It changes colors,
    My Mom's funnier than yours.

    --Mutt Lee

    --
    Get Her Wet Here

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Nick Andre on Thursday, June 27, 2019 17:50:16
    Hello Nick,

    Very true all around.

    Women love my dick. They call it the most "beautiful thing in the
    world" - knowing I aim to please.

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Sorry my dick isn't big enough to make you happy.

    --Lee

    --
    Sleep With Someone New

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:13:26
    On 27 Jun 19 17:50:16, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    Women love my dick. They call it the most "beautiful thing in the
    world" - knowing I aim to please.

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Sorry my dick isn't big enough to make you happy.

    You have written me many love letters here and obsess about me so much, desperately clinging onto my every word just because I occupy the 1:1/0 address. If you're going to venture into gay joke territory, your apparent nodelist-fetish somewhat stack the deck against you.

    Speaking of nodelists - Hows your Sysop Node-number Probation Period going? Did you finally figure out how to install a mailer yet?

    Nick

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, June 28, 2019 07:46:57
    On 28/06/2019 01:50, Lee Lofaso -> Nick Andre wrote:

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Sorry my dick isn't big enough to make you happy.

    I find it perplexing when blokes claim to be "hung like a horse"... Do they frequent women who can accommodate a horse?

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Friday, June 28, 2019 23:31:19
    Hello David,

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Sorry my dick isn't big enough to make you happy.

    I find it perplexing when blokes claim to be "hung like a horse"... Do
    they
    frequent women who can accommodate a horse?

    What a huge cavity those women must have. At least 30" deep,
    and 6" wide. Which makes their claim preposterous.

    However, I have given this more thought.

    The size of a gorilla's dick is much smaller than most men's dicks.
    In order for Fay Wray to have gotten any real enjoyment from her mate,
    she would have needed to find a gorilla the size of King Kong.

    Which means, in order for a man to be "hung like a horse" he would
    have to be a massive giant. I think Jack once met a giant of that
    size after he climbed a beanstalk.

    --Lee

    --
    We're Great In Bed

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Friday, June 28, 2019 23:31:26
    Hello David,

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Sorry my dick isn't big enough to make you happy.

    I find it perplexing when blokes claim to be "hung like a horse"... Do
    they
    frequent women who can accommodate a horse?

    You have absolutely no earthly idea what women can do with a horse.
    When a guy tries to do it, especially if it is a stallion, he often
    finds himself extremely disappointed, never able to get it in where
    he wants. I have actually seen this happen. During Mardi Gras.

    A very drunk Cajun tried to make out with a policeman's horse.
    This was during broad daylight, and the scene was drawing a crowd.
    What does a policeman do when a drunk Cajun tries to make out
    with the horse the policeman is riding on?

    He gets off his horse and puts the drunkard on board. Then
    busts the drunkard for DUI (driving under the influece).

    And to think the drunkard beat the rap.

    Argued in court the horse was not a motorized vehicle.

    The court ruled him not guilty.

    Now, realize the size of what is inside a stallion's sheath
    is much longer than what most men could ever hope to possess.
    If a stallion gets hot enough to want to do to a man what it
    wants to do with a mare, I truly feel sorry for the man who
    tried to mess with the stallion.

    That is why doing it with a cow makes much more sense than
    trying to do it with a horse. One of my classmates during
    grammar school did that while we were waiting for the bus.

    His mom brought him to school after he missed the bus, and
    was greeted by everybody at school calling him "Moo!"

    --Lee

    --
    As Good As It Looks

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Nick Andre on Friday, June 28, 2019 23:31:36
    Hello Nick,

    Women love my dick. They call it the most "beautiful thing in the
    world" - knowing I aim to please.

    Microscopic things are often cute...

    Sorry my dick isn't big enough to make you happy.

    You have written me many love letters here and obsess about me so much, desperately clinging onto my every word just because I occupy the 1:1/0 address. If you're going to venture into gay joke territory, your apparent nodelist-fetish somewhat stack the deck against you.

    Oh, suddenly Ms. Taco is an expert on burritos?

    Speaking of nodelists - Hows your Sysop Node-number Probation Period
    going?
    Did you finally figure out how to install a mailer yet?

    I just show them my hands.

    --Lee

    --
    We Make Your Wet Dreams Come True

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