Bj”rn Felten wrote:

..But we are discussing how to make the new
generations to discover fidonet. And what I claim is that we don't have
to make them download and install old MS-DOS programs and make their
phone lines open to the world.

All they need to do, if the bulletins are what they want, is to
*CLICK* on (and yes, if you are using a modern FTN editor, you can click
on a link) e.g. the link in my origin line.

That is *not* necessarily all they have to do.

For *one* of several examples, your news:// link is totally useless in Outlook 2007. Outlook does not support newsgroups without additional programs such as the MAPILabNNTP module.

Another problem, JamNNTP sourced newsgroups do not render properly in Thunderbird 60.5.3 for example. The From/To fields are corrupted and there is no clear indication what the names are.

Your "service" would be better served if you kept up to date with issues like that and steer your potential users for a solution that works.

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)

nathanael culver wrote:

Nah, I think that you and several others are on a dead end if
to attract new users to fidonet with 30yo BBS programs. Sorry...

Huh? I'm a new fidonet user.

I---------------------A I-------A I-------------------------------------A
*H.U.M.O.N.G.O.U.S* B.B.S nathanael : jenandcal.familyds.org:2323
E---------------------› E-------› E-------------------------------------›

Consider registering your BBS on the really handy bbs guides out there:

Two that look and operate quite impressively:

http://bbs.guide
https://www.telnetbbsguide.com

One of the key words to include for your listing would be "fidonet". That way, when someone else uses those online guides to search for "fidonet", your site will be in the results.

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)

Dan Clough wrote to Bj”rn Felten

Face it: change is coming regardless of what you think or want.

The online bbs guides appear to be great evidence of that.

See:

http://bbs.guide
https://www.telnetbbsguide.com

Totally amazing. Get listed!

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)

On 14.3.2019 4.05, August Abolins wrote:

Another problem, JamNNTP sourced newsgroups do not render properly in Thunderbird 60.5.3 for example.  The From/To fields are corrupted and
there is no clear indication what the names are.

There is a fix for that but some people insist running outdated broken software...

I'm writing this with TB 60.5.3 and I see "to" and "from" fields just fine.

'Tommi

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60
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Tommi Koivula : August Abolins wrote:

Another problem, JamNNTP sourced newsgroups do not render properly in
Thunderbird 60.5.3 for example. The From/To fields are corrupted and
there is no clear indication what the names are.

There is a fix for that but some people insist running outdated broken software...

I'm writing this with TB 60.5.3 and I see "to" and "from" fields just fine.

Initially, I only tested BF's theory/instructions with his server, and gave up.
But TB 60.5.3 looks right with YOUR server. Plus, the +getaccess+ ng is very
smart (which a couple of other jamnntp based servers that I had initially tried have adopted). KUDOS to you!

And, thank you for restoring my faith in the fidonet to jamnntp to ng solution.

.../|ug

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)