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    From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 19:38:00
    Bjrn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Yes, things have progressed a long ways while you've been
    hibernating.

    While I was hibernating I was heavily involved with e.g. the
    JamNNTPd project that now gives every new fidonet explorer the
    opportunity to take part of our fidonet without even having to
    download and install a single package.

    Really? So every OS (and variation) comes with a news client
    pre-installed and ready to go?

    You sure about that?



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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 21:05:42
    On 2019 Mar 12 23:43:52, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    Without a single program file downloaded and installed?

    Nothing other than the Synchronet or Mystic BBS packages.

    As opposed to do nothing at all, following the link in my origin.

    a news server is not a BBS...

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to mark lewis on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 04:39:42
    a news server is not a BBS...

    Oh, but yes it is! Here's where you can post your electronic news bulletins nowadays -- only so much easier than with yesteryear's terminal/modem combo.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 04:50:09
    Really? So every OS (and variation) comes with a news client pre-installed and ready to go?

    You sure about that?

    Pretty much so, yes. At least far more than with a pre-installed FTN client.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 07:39:00
    Bjrn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Really? So every OS (and variation) comes with a news client pre-installed and ready to go?

    You sure about that?

    Pretty much so, yes. At least far more than with a
    pre-installed FTN client.

    You're wrong. Tell me what news client is pre-installed (or comes
    stock with the OS) on *ANY* version of Windows. In case you
    aren't aware of it, Windows is by far the most-used OS...

    Many/most Linux distributions do come with some kind of news
    client, but not all of them. I honestly don't know if MacOS has
    it there by default, but I would guess not.

    Oh, another thing. You don't need a "FTN client" to access
    Fidonet echos. You just need to be able to telnet to a BBS (or
    call it with dial-up). You can use (often built-in) telnet
    functions, or clients like Putty, Syncterm, etc. Much simpler,
    on ANY OS, to do than installing/configuring/using a newsreader
    client. Very few people know anything about news/Usenet.

    Are you seriously this far out of touch that you don't know these
    things? Or are you just playing your games some more?


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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to BJƒRN FELTEN on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 16:11:02
    Really? So every OS (and variation) comes with a news client pre-installed and ready to go?

    You sure about that?

    Pretty much so, yes. At least far more than with a pre-installed FTN
    client.

    OS/2 versions 3 & 4 had a news reader, as does eCommstation (son of OS/2)
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Friday, March 15, 2019 02:16:15
    Hello Bjrn,

    a news server is not a BBS...

    Oh, but yes it is! Here's where you can post your electronic news
    bulletins
    nowadays -- only so much easier than with yesteryear's terminal/modem combo.

    Yes, it is! Makes it so easy to post your very own electronic
    news bulletins. Even for those with no prior experience.

    --Lee

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Björn Felten on Friday, March 15, 2019 14:10:26
    On 2019 Mar 13 04:39:42, you wrote to me:

    a news server is not a BBS...

    Oh, but yes it is!

    no sir, it is not... not in the traditional sense...

    Here's where you can post your electronic news bulletins nowadays --
    only so much easier than with yesteryear's terminal/modem combo.

    i don't see it... you still have to understand the software, create an account some how, configure the software to use the account, pull a list of areas, decide which areas you want to read, pull those areas, finally you get to read and reply...

    it is just as easy as reading via some web interface, too... except you only need an account and you don't consume your local drive space...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Björn Felten on Friday, March 15, 2019 14:13:10
    On 2019 Mar 13 04:50:08, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    pre-installed FTN client.

    WTH is that???

    )\/(ark

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 17:11:00
    Bjrn Felten wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Synchronet and Mystic both can do FTN all by themselves and are actively supported.

    Without a single program file downloaded and installed?

    Nothing other than the Synchronet or Mystic BBS packages.

    Amazing. Kudos if that is true.

    Yes, things have progressed a long ways while you've been
    hibernating.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 23:43:52
    Without a single program file downloaded and installed?

    Nothing other than the Synchronet or Mystic BBS packages.

    As opposed to do nothing at all, following the link in my origin.

    Amazing. Kudos if that is true.

    Yes, things have progressed a long ways while you've been
    hibernating.

    While I was hibernating I was heavily involved with e.g. the JamNNTPd project that now gives every new fidonet explorer the opportunity to take part of our fidonet without even having to download and install a single package.

    It's only the Bulletin Board System for sure, but the file areas http://eljaco.se/FILES/ and the online games are far better handled online. ANSI games are probably not something that'll attract today's generations...


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