• Jamnntpd

    From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2020 15:03:05
    Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

    Please advise


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    At logo,
    Flavio Bessa

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Flavio Bessa on Saturday, July 18, 2020 17:40:04
    Hello Flavio,

    On Saturday July 18 2020 15:03, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
    @PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
    @TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
    @REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
    @CHRS: LATIN-1 2
    @TZUTC: 0000

    Are you sure about that TZUTC: 0000? Your system clock is set to UTC?

    Please advise

    The rest looks OK to me.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.1 to Flavio Bessa on Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:42:01
    *** Quoting Flavio Bessa from a message to All ***

    @TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
    @MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
    @REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
    @PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
    @CHRS: LATIN-1 2
    @TZUTC: 0000
    @PATH 801/188 292/854 229/426 664
    Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

    Please advise


    -- At* logo, Flavio Bessa

    -!- NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)

    This is what I see here.

    Jay

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  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.1 to Flavio Bessa on Saturday, July 18, 2020 18:07:00
    Ola Flavio!

    ** 18.07.20 - 15:03, fcbessa # gmail.com wrote to All:

    Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

    Please advise

    EMP: /FIDO/FIDOTEST
    ABS: fcbessa # gmail.com@4:801/188 (Flavio Bessa)
    BET: Jamnntpd
    ROT: 4:801/194!801/188 194
    MID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
    EDA: 20200718150300W+0
    LEN: 193
    MAILER: JamNNTPd 20161111 / NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
    X_C:
    X-XP-NTP: 30
    F-TO: All
    X-XP-Charset: ISO-8859-1

    Seems fine here.


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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188.2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Saturday, July 18, 2020 20:36:01
    Hello Flavio,

    On Saturday July 18 2020 15:03, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
    @PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
    @TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
    @REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
    @CHRS: LATIN-1 2
    @TZUTC: 0000

    Are you sure about that TZUTC: 0000? Your system clock is set to UTC?

    Well, that was from a NNTP client on my cell phone. Will check If the fault was
    due to the client or the server.

    Thanks for the help!



    --- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
    * Origin: Mimas - Orbiting Saturn on Android (4:801/188.2)
  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188.2 to Jay Harris on Saturday, July 18, 2020 20:39:36
    *** Quoting Flavio Bessa from a message to All ***

    @TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
    @MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
    @REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
    @PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
    @CHRS: LATIN-1 2
    @TZUTC: 0000
    @PATH 801/188 292/854 229/426 664
    Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

    Please advise


    -- At* logo, Flavio Bessa

    -!- NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's
    Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)

    This is what I see here.

    Thanks!!

    --- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
    * Origin: Mimas - Orbiting Saturn on Android (4:801/188.2)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mauro Veiga on Monday, July 20, 2020 17:39:26
    Hello Mauro,

    On Monday July 20 2020 10:23, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

    @MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
    @REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

    No REPLY kludge
    No TZUTC kludge
    No CHRS kludge

    ÚÄ Extended Information ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
    ³ TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41 ³
    ³ MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24 ³
    ³ REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com ³
    ³ PID: JamNNTPd 20161111 ³
    ³ CHRS: LATIN-1 2 ³
    ³ TZUTC: 0000 ³
    ³ PATH: 801/188 194 ³
    ³ SEEN-BY: 292/854 801/188 194 189 ³
    ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

    When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the receivers' screen.

    Repling with another Point program.

    Aha...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Mauro Veiga@1:124/5014 to Flavio Bessa on Monday, July 20, 2020 10:23:11
    Quoting Flavio Bessa to All <=-

    Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

    Please advise

    Extended Information Ŀ
    TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
    MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
    REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
    PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
    CHRS: LATIN-1 2
    TZUTC: 0000
    PATH: 801/188 194
    SEEN-BY: 292/854 801/188 194 189


    Repling with another Point program.


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Monday, July 20, 2020 20:20:02
    On 20.07.2020 18:39, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

    Hello Mauro,

    On Monday July 20 2020 10:23, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

    @MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
    @REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

    No REPLY kludge

    Right..

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Monday, July 20, 2020 19:27:30
    Hello Tommi,

    On Monday July 20 2020 20:20, you wrote to me:

    @MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
    @REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

    No REPLY kludge

    Right..

    OOps...


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Monday, July 20, 2020 22:46:14
    Hi Michiel.

    20 Jul 20 19:27:30, you wrote to me:

    @TID: FMail-W32 2.1.3.7-B20170919
    @RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes
    @TZUTC: 0200
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @MSGID: 2:280/5555 5f15d40f
    @REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5f15d240

    Right..

    OOps...

    No OOPS kludge ...

    'Tommi

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    * Origin: IPv6 Point at [p1.f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi] (2:221/1.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Monday, July 20, 2020 22:01:57
    Hello Tommi,

    No OOPS kludge ...

    Better now?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mauro Veiga on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 17:41:05
    Hello Mauro,

    On Tuesday July 21 2020 10:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    @MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f16fd123
    @REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5f15d240

    No CHRS kludge...

    No REPLY kludge

    Right..

    Must be the age. :-)

    Yes, it is the age... of the coffee. ;-)

    ... * * * <- Tribbles <- dissected tribbles
    ^ ^ ^
    When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the receivers.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.2 to Tommi Koivula on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:21:12
    Quoting Tommi Koivula to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

    On 20.07.2020 18:39, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

    Hello Mauro,

    On Monday July 20 2020 10:23, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

    @MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
    @REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

    No REPLY kludge

    Right..

    Must be the age. :-)


    ... * * * <- Tribbles <- dissected tribbles
    --- Indigo/DOS 0.01+Blue Wave/DOS
    * Origin: Point do Pardal - Brasil * (4:801/194.2)
  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.2 to Tommi Koivula on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:22:42
    Quoting Tommi Koivula to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

    Hi Michiel.

    20 Jul 20 19:27:30, you wrote to me:

    @TID: FMail-W32 2.1.3.7-B20170919
    @RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes
    @TZUTC: 0200
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @MSGID: 2:280/5555 5f15d40f
    @REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5f15d240

    Right..

    OOps...

    No OOPS kludge ...

    LOL! :-D


    ... * <- Tribble *\\ <- Tribble Going Skiing
    --- Indigo/DOS 0.01+Blue Wave/DOS
    * Origin: Point do Pardal - Brasil * (4:801/194.2)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 15:45:38
    On 21 Jul 20 17:41:05, Michiel Van Der Vlist said the following to Mauro Veig

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    Sheldon Cooper without the laughs.

    Nick

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  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 16:58:00
    Ola Michiel!

    ** 21.07.20 - 17:41, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mauro Veiga:

    ... * * * <- Tribbles t t t <- dissected tribbles
    ^ ^ ^
    When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the receivers.

    Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

    --- OpenXP 5.0.42
    * Origin: Point da Coruja - Brasil * (4:801/194.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mauro Veiga on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 00:31:45
    Hello Mauro,

    On Tuesday July 21 2020 16:58, you wrote to me:

    ... * * * <- Tribbles t t t <- dissected tribbles
    ^ ^ ^
    When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect
    non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the
    receivers.

    Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

    What I received was not a hyphen:

    0130 0D 20 20 20 20 20 4D 75 73 74 20 62 65 20 74 68 . Must be th 0140 65 20 61 67 65 2E 20 20 3A 2D 29 0D 0D 0D 2E 2E e age. :-)..... 0150 2E 20 2A 20 2A 20 2A 20 3C 2D 20 54 72 69 62 62 . * * * <- Tribb 0160 6C 65 73 20 20 F0 20 F0 20 F0 20 3C 2D 20 64 69 les <- di
    ^^ ^^ ^^

    I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 18:30:00
    Ola Mauro!

    ** 21.07.20 - 16:58, Mauro Veiga wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Ola Michiel!

    ** 21.07.20 - 17:41, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mauro Veiga:

    ... * * * <- Tribbles t t t <- dissected tribbles
    ^ ^ ^
    When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII
    characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the receivers.

    Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

    Bingo! Isn't a Alt+45. Is a Alt+240. On CP850 show equal a hyphen.

    []'s
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    ---------------- telnet://abutre.no-ip.org:2323 ----------- * ------
    |


    --- OpenXP 5.0.42
    * Origin: Point da Coruja - Brasil * (4:801/194.1)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Mauro Veiga on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 08:34:02
    Hi Mauro.

    21 Jul 20 18:30:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    @PID: OpenXP/5.0.42 (Win32)
    @CHRS: ASCII 1

    Bingo! Isn't a Alt+45. Is a Alt+240. On CP850 show equal a hyphen.

    You are writing in "ASCII 1"

    alt-45: - alt-240: ­

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: - rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland - (2:221/360)
  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194 to MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 09:28:00
    Quoting Michiel Van Der Vlist to Mauro Veiga at 07-22-20 00:31 <=-

    MVDV> Hello Mauro,

    Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

    MVDV> What I received was not a hyphen:

    MVDV> 0130 0D 20 20 20 20 20 4D 75 73 74 20 62 65 20 74 68 . Must
    MVDV> be th 0140 65 20 61 67 65 2E 20 20 3A 2D 29 0D 0D 0D 2E 2E e age.
    MVDV> :-)..... 0150 2E 20 2A 20 2A 20 2A 20 3C 2D 20 54 72 69 62 62 .
    MVDV> * * * <- Tribb 0160 6C 65 73 20 20 F0 20 F0 20 F0 20 3C 2D 20 64
    MVDV> 69 les <- di ^^ ^^ ^^

    MVDV> I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.

    Yes, is Alt+240. Noob thing.
    I didn't see that the laptop was set to CP850 and showed a character
    equal a hyphen. Otherwise I would have seen the inadequacy. Fixed.


    ... * * * <- Tribbles . . . <- Tribbles after a haircut
    ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: Ninho do Abutre 2 - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil * (4:801/194)
  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194 to TOMMI KOIVULA on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 09:29:00
    Quoting Tommi Koivula to Mauro Veiga at 07-22-20 08:34 <=-

    Hi Mauro.

    21 Jul 20 18:30:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    @PID: OpenXP/5.0.42 (Win32)
    @CHRS: ASCII 1

    Bingo! Isn't a Alt+45. Is a Alt+240. On CP850 show equal a hyphen.

    You are writing in "ASCII 1"

    alt-45: - alt-240: ­

    Yes, that's it. I alternate between various Point programs and BBS.
    Differences occur.


    []s |
    .---------------------------------------------- * -------------
    | Mauro R. Veiga - abutre.no-ip.org:2323 |
    -----|-----------------------------------------------'


    MeSSaGe SiTTeR 1.00 - Full Version
    Live Long and Prosper

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mauro Veiga on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 23:22:49
    Hello Mauro,

    On Wednesday July 22 2020 09:28, you wrote to me:

    MVDV>> I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.

    Yes, is Alt+240. Noob thing. I didn't see that the laptop was set to
    CP850 and showed a character equal a hyphen. Otherwise I would have
    seen the inadequacy. Fixed.

    Aha! Anyway, you have demonstrated that assuming CP437 is the default when there is no CHRS kludge, is not a good idea. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thursday, July 23, 2020 08:43:00
    Ola Michiel!

    ** 22.07.20 - 23:22, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mauro Veiga:

    Hello Mauro,

    On Wednesday July 22 2020 09:28, you wrote to me:

    MVDV>> I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.

    Yes, is Alt+240. Noob thing. I didn't see that the laptop was set to
    CP850 and showed a character equal a hyphen. Otherwise I would have
    seen the inadequacy. Fixed.

    Aha! Anyway, you have demonstrated that assuming CP437 is the default when there is no CHRS kludge, is not a good idea. ;-)

    Maybe. But CP437 work fine for me on bigger part of read/posts on Fidonet
    and other nets. Not a ideal solution but is enough in moment. Just be more careful.


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    --- OpenXP 5.0.42
    * Origin: Point da Coruja - Brasil * (4:801/194.1)