Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

Please advise


--
At‚ logo,
Flavio Bessa

--- NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
* Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)

Hello Flavio,

On Saturday July 18 2020 15:03, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
@PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
@REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
@CHRS: LATIN-1 2
@TZUTC: 0000

Are you sure about that TZUTC: 0000? Your system clock is set to UTC?

Please advise

The rest looks OK to me.

Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

*** Quoting Flavio Bessa from a message to All ***

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
@MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
@REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
@PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
@CHRS: LATIN-1 2
@TZUTC: 0000
@PATH 801/188 292/854 229/426 664
Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

Please advise

-- At* logo, Flavio Bessa

-!- NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)

This is what I see here.

Jay

--- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
* Origin: Northern Realms/TG | bbs.nrbbs.net:2323 (1:229/664.1)

Ola Flavio!

** 18.07.20 - 15:03, fcbessa # gmail.com wrote to All:

Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

Please advise

EMP: /FIDO/FIDOTEST
ABS: fcbessa # gmail.com@4:801/188 (Flavio Bessa)
BET: Jamnntpd
ROT: 4:801/194!801/188 194
MID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
EDA: 20200718150300W+0
LEN: 193
MAILER: JamNNTPd 20161111 / NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
X_C:
X-XP-NTP: 30
F-TO: All
X-XP-Charset: ISO-8859-1

Seems fine here.


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Hello Flavio,

On Saturday July 18 2020 15:03, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
@PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
@REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
@CHRS: LATIN-1 2
@TZUTC: 0000

Are you sure about that TZUTC: 0000? Your system clock is set to UTC?

Well, that was from a NNTP client on my cell phone. Will check If the fault was
due to the client or the server.

Thanks for the help!



--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
* Origin: Mimas - Orbiting Saturn on Android (4:801/188.2)

*** Quoting Flavio Bessa from a message to All ***

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41
@MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24
@REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com
@PID: JamNNTPd 20161111
@CHRS: LATIN-1 2
@TZUTC: 0000
@PATH 801/188 292/854 229/426 664
Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

Please advise

-- At* logo, Flavio Bessa

-!- NewsTap/5.4.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's
Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)

This is what I see here.

Thanks!!

--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
* Origin: Mimas - Orbiting Saturn on Android (4:801/188.2)

Hello Mauro,

On Monday July 20 2020 10:23, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

@MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
@REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

No REPLY kludge
No TZUTC kludge
No CHRS kludge

ÚÄ Extended Information ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³ TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41 ³
³ MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24 ³
³ REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com ³
³ PID: JamNNTPd 20161111 ³
³ CHRS: LATIN-1 2 ³
³ TZUTC: 0000 ³
³ PATH: 801/188 194 ³
³ SEEN-BY: 292/854 801/188 194 189 ³
ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the receivers' screen.

Repling with another Point program.

Aha...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Quoting Flavio Bessa to All <=-

Here it goes another JAMNNTPD test.

Please advise

ÚÄ Extended Information ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³ TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A41 ³
³ MSGID: 4:801/188 5f130f24 ³
³ REPLYADDR fcbessa@gmail.com ³
³ PID: JamNNTPd 20161111 ³
³ CHRS: LATIN-1 2 ³
³ TZUTC: 0000 ³
³ PATH: 801/188 194 ³
³ SEEN-BY: 292/854 801/188 194 189 ³
ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

Repling with another Point program.


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On 20.07.2020 18:39, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

Hello Mauro,

On Monday July 20 2020 10:23, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

@MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
@REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

No REPLY kludge

Right..

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.0
* Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)

Hello Tommi,

On Monday July 20 2020 20:20, you wrote to me:

@MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
@REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

No REPLY kludge

Right..

OOps...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Hi Michiel.

20 Jul 20 19:27:30, you wrote to me:

@TID: FMail-W32 2.1.3.7-B20170919
@RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes
@TZUTC: 0200
@CHRS: UTF-8 4
@MSGID: 2:280/5555 5f15d40f
@REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5f15d240

Right..

OOps...

No OOPS kludge ...

'Tommi

---
* Origin: IPv6 Point at [p1.f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi] (2:221/1.1)

Hello Tommi,

No OOPS kludge ...

Better now?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Hello Mauro,

On Tuesday July 21 2020 10:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

@MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f16fd123
@REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5f15d240

No CHRS kludge...

No REPLY kludge

Right..

Must be the age. :-)

Yes, it is the age... of the coffee. ;-)

... * * * <- Tribbles ð ð ð <- dissected tribbles

^ ^ ^
When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the receivers.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Quoting Tommi Koivula to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

On 20.07.2020 18:39, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

Hello Mauro,

On Monday July 20 2020 10:23, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

@MSGID: 4:801/194.2 f15a923d
@REPLY: 4:801/188 5f130f24

No REPLY kludge

Right..

Must be the age. :-)


... * * * <- Tribbles ð ð ð <- dissected tribbles
--- Indigo/DOS 0.01+Blue Wave/DOS
* Origin: Point do Pardal - Brasil * (4:801/194.2)

Quoting Tommi Koivula to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

Hi Michiel.

20 Jul 20 19:27:30, you wrote to me:

@TID: FMail-W32 2.1.3.7-B20170919
@RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes
@TZUTC: 0200
@CHRS: UTF-8 4
@MSGID: 2:280/5555 5f15d40f
@REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5f15d240

Right..

OOps...

No OOPS kludge ...

LOL! :-D


... * <- Tribble *\\ <- Tribble Going Skiing
--- Indigo/DOS 0.01+Blue Wave/DOS
* Origin: Point do Pardal - Brasil * (4:801/194.2)

On 21 Jul 20 17:41:05, Michiel Van Der Vlist said the following to Mauro Veig

* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Sheldon Cooper without the laughs.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

Ola Michiel!

** 21.07.20 - 17:41, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mauro Veiga:

... * * * <- Tribbles t t t <- dissected tribbles

^ ^ ^

When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the receivers.

Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

--- OpenXP 5.0.42
* Origin: Point da Coruja - Brasil * (4:801/194.1)

Hello Mauro,

On Tuesday July 21 2020 16:58, you wrote to me:

... * * * <- Tribbles t t t <- dissected tribbles

^ ^ ^

When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect
non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the
receivers.

Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

What I received was not a hyphen:

0130 0D 20 20 20 20 20 4D 75 73 74 20 62 65 20 74 68 . Must be th 0140 65 20 61 67 65 2E 20 20 3A 2D 29 0D 0D 0D 2E 2E e age. :-)..... 0150 2E 20 2A 20 2A 20 2A 20 3C 2D 20 54 72 69 62 62 . * * * <- Tribb 0160 6C 65 73 20 20 F0 20 F0 20 F0 20 3C 2D 20 64 69 les ­ ­ ­ <- di
^^ ^^ ^^

I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Ola Mauro!

** 21.07.20 - 16:58, Mauro Veiga wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Ola Michiel!

** 21.07.20 - 17:41, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mauro Veiga:

... * * * <- Tribbles t t t <- dissected tribbles

^ ^ ^

When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect non-ASCII
characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the receivers.

Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

Bingo! Isn't a Alt+45. Is a Alt+240. On CP850 show equal a hyphen.

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--- OpenXP 5.0.42
* Origin: Point da Coruja - Brasil * (4:801/194.1)

Hi Mauro.

21 Jul 20 18:30:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

@PID: OpenXP/5.0.42 (Win32)
@CHRS: ASCII 1

Bingo! Isn't a Alt+45. Is a Alt+240. On CP850 show equal a hyphen.

You are writing in "ASCII 1"

alt-45: - alt-240: ­

'Tommi

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* Origin: - rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland - (2:221/360)

Quoting Michiel Van Der Vlist to Mauro Veiga at 07-22-20 00:31 <=-

MVDV> Hello Mauro,

Is a simple hyphen. Alt+45 is a non-ASCII character?

MVDV> What I received was not a hyphen:

MVDV> 0130 0D 20 20 20 20 20 4D 75 73 74 20 62 65 20 74 68 . Must
MVDV> be th 0140 65 20 61 67 65 2E 20 20 3A 2D 29 0D 0D 0D 2E 2E e age.
MVDV> :-)..... 0150 2E 20 2A 20 2A 20 2A 20 3C 2D 20 54 72 69 62 62 .
MVDV> * * * <- Tribb 0160 6C 65 73 20 20 F0 20 F0 20 F0 20 3C 2D 20 64
MVDV> 69 les ­ ­ ­ <- di ^^ ^^ ^^

MVDV> I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.

Yes, is Alt+240. Noob thing.
I didn't see that the laptop was set to CP850 and showed a character
equal a hyphen. Otherwise I would have seen the inadequacy. Fixed.


... * * * <- Tribbles . . . <- Tribbles after a haircut
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Quoting Tommi Koivula to Mauro Veiga at 07-22-20 08:34 <=-

Hi Mauro.

21 Jul 20 18:30:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

@PID: OpenXP/5.0.42 (Win32)
@CHRS: ASCII 1

Bingo! Isn't a Alt+45. Is a Alt+240. On CP850 show equal a hyphen.

You are writing in "ASCII 1"

alt-45: - alt-240: ­

Yes, that's it. I alternate between various Point programs and BBS.
Differences occur.


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Live Long and Prosper

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Hello Mauro,

On Wednesday July 22 2020 09:28, you wrote to me:

MVDV>> I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.

Yes, is Alt+240. Noob thing. I didn't see that the laptop was set to
CP850 and showed a character equal a hyphen. Otherwise I would have
seen the inadequacy. Fixed.

Aha! Anyway, you have demonstrated that assuming CP437 is the default when there is no CHRS kludge, is not a good idea. ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)

Ola Michiel!

** 22.07.20 - 23:22, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mauro Veiga:

Hello Mauro,

On Wednesday July 22 2020 09:28, you wrote to me:

MVDV>> I got three hex F0 or decimal 240. That's is not ASCII.

Yes, is Alt+240. Noob thing. I didn't see that the laptop was set to
CP850 and showed a character equal a hyphen. Otherwise I would have
seen the inadequacy. Fixed.

Aha! Anyway, you have demonstrated that assuming CP437 is the default when there is no CHRS kludge, is not a good idea. ;-)

Maybe. But CP437 work fine for me on bigger part of read/posts on Fidonet
and other nets. Not a ideal solution but is enough in moment. Just be more careful.


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