On 27 Apr 19 10:27:38, Michiel Van Der Vlist said the following to Wilfred Va
No MSGID makes developers jump through hoops to implement good dupe detect Good dupe detectionis essential in today's Fidonet where the Fidoweb is the main distribution method for echomail. Making developers jump through hoops puts them off. Not good for Fidonet
A mail tosser is one of THE most complicated types of programs to develop
for Fidonet next to the mailer. Chances are, someone who writes one knows what they're doing. Chances are, they are already "jumping through hoops", as there is no clear FTSC "how to" guide for developing a tosser from scratch.
MSGID did absolute jack shit for every time we've all seen an improperly configured Synchronet system spit out duplicates in FN_SYSOP, FIDONEWS and other echoes. It seemed from 2005 to 2015 this was an occurence every
couple of years or so. A Sysop puts up a BBS and is configuring things wrong, then shit happens and every echo got slammed with dupes. Where did
everyone's precious lovely perfect MSGID stop this?
MSGID does nothing for duplicates caused by circular paths, Seen-by stripping, mangled headers or message content regurgitated, etc. Some software even
takes a message missing a MSGID kludge and adds its own.
MSGID is flawed and lazy programming. I maintain the code of a mailer which
has had a rock solid duplicate detection scheme since 1988. It does not rely on date/time stamps, serial numbers or other nonsense kludged to messages to detect a duplicate. Works just fine here, for decades.
No reply kludge makes the reader jump through hoops to find the original p that was replied to. Making the reader jump through hoops annoys him/her. Annoying the users of message readers makes them move to greener pastures. good for Fidonet.
You appear to be easily annoyed if this is such a problem for you, and the original thread was that SLMAIL works perfectly fine in Fidonet.
Although SLMAIL cannot have kludges added to its code as it is essentially abandonware, I can read and reply to someone who posts from a Searchlight system just fine... I do not get all annoyed and upset over missing
character set, replies or timezone kludges.
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