Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from BinkD + FastEcho as it's mailer and tosser respectively. In the coming days I plan to cut the HUB over to one powered by Mystic BBS. This should assist with some dupe loop niggles created because FE strips inter-zonal SEEN-BY kludges.
Mystic does not do that.

I'll post again when the cut over has been completed.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Hello Paul!

06 Jun 19 21:22, you wrote to All:

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from BinkD

Good Luck!!! :)

Ciao!
Fabio

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth Boss Point (2:335/364.1)

Paul,

This should assist with some
dupe loop niggles created because FE strips inter-zonal SEEN-BY kludges.

Way to go. Thank you.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Hello Fabio,

On Thursday June 06 2019 11:42, you wrote to Paul Hayton:

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from
BinkD

Good Luck!!! :)

He will need it.... :(


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from
BinkD

Good Luck!!! :)

He will need it.... :(

He may need some help, which he does have.

If changes are needed in Mystic, James is always open to that.

We are looking at a couple of things now. If you have info or input about the way Mystic interacts with the net we are listening.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

* Carbon copied to Paul Hayton 3:770/1

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-06 21:22:56, you wrote to All:

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from BinkD
+ FastEcho as it's mailer and tosser respectively. In the coming days
I plan to cut the HUB over to one powered by Mystic BBS. This should assist with some dupe loop niggles created because FE strips
inter-zonal SEEN-BY kludges. Mystic does not do that.

I'll post again when the cut over has been completed.

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was never connected to on your system:

11:21:35.154 Toss
11:21:35.157 Processing 05d2310f.pkt from 3:770/1 to 2:280/464
11:21:35.157 Pkt info: Program id FEFE 0.0, Type 2+, 33737, 2019-06-09 11:16:52, Pwd, Sec
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'FIDO-REQ'
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'ALLFIX_FILE'
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'FDN_ANNOUNCE'
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'FIDO-REQ'

11:49:09.606 Unknown area: 'HOME_COOKING'
11:49:09.607 Unknown area: 'RECIPES'

12:17:55.715 Unknown area: 'WEATHER'

:-(

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was
never connected to on your system:

It's mystic when that happens ... <pun intended>

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On 09 Jun 2019 at 01:09p, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was
never connected to on your system:

Apologies Wilfred... Can you try and areafix them off?

I'm going to look at this further tonight when I get home.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 09 Jun 2019 at 02:13p, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

@MSGID: 2:292/854 10133808
@REPLY: 2:280/464 5cfce8f5
@SEEN-BY: 103/705 153/250 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 1 229/426 240/5832 2452/250
@SEEN-BY: 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 292/140 789 8125 854 310/31 317/3 335/364
@SEEN-BY: 393/68 396/45 410/9 423/120 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 500
@PATH: 292/854 280/464 770/1
@

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was never connected to on your system:

It's mystic when that happens ... <pun intended>

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Reply one...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 09 Jun 2019 at 02:13p, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

@MSGID: 2:292/854 10133808
@REPLY: 2:280/464 5cfce8f5
@SEEN-BY: 1/120 103/705 116/116 123/0 115 150 25 50 755 135/300 138/146 153/250
@SEEN-BY: 6809 757 7715 154/10 18/0 203/0 220/70 221/0 1 360 6 229/426 240/5832
@SEEN-BY: 2452/250 261/38 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 292/140 789 8125 854 310/31
@SEEN-BY: 317/3 320/219 335/364 3634/0 119 12 15 27 50 393/68 396/45
410/9
@SEEN-BY: 423/120 460/58 633/280 640/1321 1384 305 712/848 770/1 100 330 340
@SEEN-BY: 772/210 500
@PATH: 292/854 280/464 221/1 640/1384 3634/12 153/7715 250 770/1

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was never connected to on your system:

It's mystic when that happens ... <pun intended>

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Reply 2..

As you can see I am getting dupes to 770/100 from 770/1 after the cut over.

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not active at
the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for now I'll start looking at a Plan B.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 12:27p, Paul Hayton pondered and said...

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not active
at the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for now I'll start looking at a Plan B.

3:770/1 has been restored to the previous setup. Will advise when this
changes.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

As you can see I am getting dupes to 770/100 from 770/1 after the cut
over.

I'm getting dupes all the time. No big deal they get trashed.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-10 11:53:39, you wrote to me:

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was
never connected to on your system:

Apologies Wilfred... Can you try and areafix them off?

I did yesterday. But since you moved back to your previous setup I don't think it's relevant anymore. ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-10 12:27:38, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not
active at the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for
now I'll start looking at a Plan B.

Any thoughts on Plan B, you would like to share with us? ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not active at the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for now I'll

start

looking at a Plan B.

I switched to Hpt from Fastecho. It was quite simple process, there is a configuration converter in the Husky package. There was still some manual work to do but the converter helped a lot.

'Tommi

---
* Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 08:50p, Tommi Koivula pondered and said...

I switched to Hpt from Fastecho. It was quite simple process, there is a configuration converter in the Husky package. There was still some
manual work to do but the converter helped a lot.

Thanks Tommi :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 11:43a, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Any thoughts on Plan B, you would like to share with us? ;)

HPT at this stage will let you know when/if done :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 08:46a, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

I'm getting dupes all the time. No big deal they get trashed.

:)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-11 11:25:10, you wrote to me:

On 10 Jun 2019 at 11:43a, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Any thoughts on Plan B, you would like to share with us? ;)

HPT at this stage will let you know when/if done :)

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows)
It can import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 11 Jun 19 12:08:47, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Paul Hayton:

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows)
It can import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's name.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

Hi Nick,

On 2019-06-11 09:22:13, you wrote to me:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's
name.

Does it?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Wilfred.

11 Jun 19 16:11, you wrote to Nick Andre:

On 2019-06-11 09:22:13, you wrote to me:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's
name.

Does it?

Ask the author. :)

'Tommi

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)

On 11 Jun 19 16:11:24, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's name.

Does it?

Yes, versions of it did. I see now that it is advanced even further, with the ability to say hi to the author. Must have some real advanced AI. We better be careful; it may send an evil robot back in time to kill Sarah Connor.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

Hi Nick,

On 2019-06-11 14:55:02, you wrote to me:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the

author's

name.

Does it?

Yes, versions of it did.

No, my name was never in any of the FMail executables.

I see now that it is advanced even further,

If there was nothing before how can it advance?

with the ability to say hi to the author. Must have some real advanced
AI. We better be careful; it may send an evil robot back in time to
kill Sarah Connor.

Yet you used that function, so that AI is in your computer... And now I can read all those secret Z1 areas directly on your computer. Thank you!

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 2019 Jun 12 08:50:54, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows) It can
import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

I have but honestly the lack of JAM support for Netmail is a key
reason I have not opted to use it.

i thought it could import netmails into the BBS into a JAM area?

generally speaking, in traditional FTN installations, there are at least two netmail areas... one for the mailer and tosser and one for the BBS... the tosser is the interface between them... if not the tosser, then a tool like netmgr or maybe rntrack...

the above became apparent to be when i was running remoteaccess... it only supported the HMB at that time... it never supported MSG so there was no way to
share the ""main"" netmail area so users could get and send netmail... later on JAM was added but there was still the problem of not being able to share the
""main"" netmail area in MSG format... the mailer and the tosser effectively communicate via that area and the BBS netmail area is a seperate entity altogether...

once that clicked in my mind, everything was golden... it even lead me to understanding that one could set up seperate netmail areas for each network their system was in, too... that helped lessen the training of the users using netmail so they didn't have to understand FTN addresses and choose the proper one for the network they were writing netmail in...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Stressed is just desserts backwards.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Hi Nick,

On 2019-06-12 10:30:23, you wrote to me:

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I
think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward
won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 12 Jun 19 08:37:33, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

Yet you used that function, so that AI is in your computer... And now I can read all those secret Z1 areas directly on your computer. Thank you!

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward won't be offended.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

On 12 Jun 19 18:46:28, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

The Z1 secret echos are so secret, no systems are in the Seen-By lines.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so

much; I WV> NA> think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay
to admit it, Ward

won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

The Z1 secret echos are so secret, no systems are in the Seen-By line

Uh oh, don't forget the Path, Origin and CtlA lines like MSGID
etc... "...it's a conspiracy man..."

<g>...

Joe Martin

--- ViaMAIL!/WC v2.00
* Origin: ViaSoft Support BBS - Back online at 303-953-0568 (1:104/57)

Hi Nick.

12 Jun 19 14:43, you wrote to Wilfred Van Velzen:

@MSGID: 1:229/426 11D6CF63

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I
think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward
won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

The Z1 secret echos are so secret, no systems are in the Seen-By lines.

Yeah, and many top secret kludges that we in Z2 cannot see. :D

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2

'Tommi

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)

On 11 Jun 2019 at 12:08p, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows)
It can import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

I have but honestly the lack of JAM support for Netmail is a key reason I
have not opted to use it.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)