There is a new candidate in the race for president -
"We must now realize the promise of America by trusting
God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am
running for president of the United States." #2020VISION
~ Kanye West, tweet 7/4/2020
running for president of the United States." #2020VISION
"You have my full support!" ~Elon Musk, waving his own flag
I don't get Kanye. Previously, he said he would wait until 2024, because he said he supports Trump, so what's with this 2020Vision stuff? And isn't he too late for trying to primary Trump? Or maybe he was drunk-tweeting; he me to say "#2024Vision." Who knows? He's kinda unpredictable.
It's for sure that both Republicans and Democrats offer us some lousy candidates. Putting Kanye, the rap sensation, as the Republican front-runne would be an embarrassment and a losing battle. We've got better candidates, but for some reason, they'll probably go with Kanye. lol
Its a very slippery slope to start having television/media/music personalit running for President instead of actual qualified candidates. But yes, lous candidates is fodder for much of the criticism and insults you see in Fido.
I look forward to the day when I get to defend President Kanye West in Fido and call the liberals out for being "racist" if they don't like him. Good times are ahead!
But if the Republicans decide to nominate a newcomer, or someone with no background in government, I'll prefer this woman named Candice Owens. She u
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"We must now realize the promise of America by trusting
God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am
running for president of the United States." #2020VISION
~ Kanye West, tweet 7/4/2020
Kim Kardashian West tweeted an American flag emoji to show
her support. I expect many others will do the same.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Nick Andre <=-
So far, the only issue I've heard Kanye talk about it how racist George
W Bush is. I like that! But it's not important enough.
"We must now realize the promise of America by trusting
God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am
running for president of the United States." #2020VISION
~ Kanye West, tweet 7/4/2020
Kim Kardashian West tweeted an American flag emoji to show
her support. I expect many others will do the same.
We already have one ex-porn first lady. We don't need another.
So far, the only issue I've heard Kanye talk about it how racist George
W Bush is. I like that! But it's not important enough.
He has pretty strong opinions about Taylor Swift and Beyonce. Maybe if
he brings Ariana Grande on the ticket as VP he'll lock up the 13-17
female demographic. Oh, wait - they can't vote.
Nick Andre wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-Fido
On 5 Jul 20 22:52, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:
I look forward to the day when I get to defend President Kanye West in
and call the liberals out for being "racist" if they don't like him. Good times are ahead!u
Lol. Seriously though, I honestly doubt he would have a shot. He comes across as being batshit crazy too often to be taken seriously by the average voter.
Its not really his fault, its just how he's wired.
But if the Republicans decide to nominate a newcomer, or someone with no background in government, I'll prefer this woman named Candice Owens. She
Yes I too like Candace Owens. She's very smart and doesn't tolerate
crap.
Unfortunately, the ex-porn first lady is ineligible to run for
president or vice president. But not to worry. There are many other
I wouldn't mind seeing Tucker Carlson give it a go.
Unfortunately, the ex-porn first lady is ineligible to run for
president or vice president. But not to worry. There are many other
I thought he was joking but there's some truth to this? Michelle Obama posed
for Lustful Cows?
I wouldn't mind seeing Tucker Carlson give it a go.
Tucker is cool but I never seen him speak outside of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."
The good thing about Candace Owens is that she's been very vocal
of a human being. Questioned the patriotism of a US veteran who
was awarded the Purple Heart after having lost both her legs in
of a human being. Questioned the patriotism of a US veteran who
was awarded the Purple Heart after having lost both her legs in
You can't get a purple heart for losing your legs.
You're only giving us half the news. And purple heart recipients, despite having provided bravery, are not immune to doing dumb things later in life.
Duckworth wants to have a "national conversation" on the subject of removing
confederate statues. That's adorable and everything, but maybe there are more important things to have a "national conversation" about.
I'll agree that the statues should be 'evicted' from federal property, and probably should be donated to a Democrat museum.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
I wouldn't mind seeing Tucker Carlson give it a go.
Tucker is cool but I never seen him speak outside of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."
The good thing about Candace Owens is that she's been very vocal about
her positions on issues, and seems very trustworthy. She is louder than Carlson & Hannity combined. That's something I look for in candidates; people who are up front and open about their politics, willing to
debate, not trying to hide or omit anything.
Doesn't that make sense? However, this approach failed me recently in a Republican primary election. I voted for the guy who had been much more vocal than the lady. The dude had TV commercials, was well-liked on Facebook, but this batch beat him for no apparent reason; how the hell
did that happen? My only clue so far is that she had Trump's
endorsement. I'm all about Trump, but he's got to stop endorsing people without hearing from their residents first.
I've heard a lot about Candace Owens, but never really heard much FROM her.
know one thing, when I hear a Californian accent, I tune out.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-her.
I've heard a lot about Candace Owens, but never really heard much FROM
She's popular on Facebook, and I think she has a podcast too. So far I agree with the lady 100% on the issues she talks about. She is
supposedly going to run for president in 2024, but I don't think she really will. She's more of an entertainer, an she's a former Fox News commentator. A great lady - but we'll get stuck with someone like Mitt Romney instead (sucks!)
know one thing, when I hear a Californian accent, I tune out.
I'm not sure I know the California accent, but in NY state alone there
are at least 5 different accents. The people from NYC talk the worst,
and they are divided into subgroups with unique horrible accents.
views has. But again, in Australia its not as relevant. However, many peo here are really, really backing one side over another, as if we actually li
White supremacists are nothing in the USA. There might be a few out here, b they have no power, never will, and the killing of George Floyd was absolut not racially motivated. The liberal media wants it the other way, however.
American white cops are going out purposely shooting and killing black peop just because they are black. All beliefs stemmed from the media.
I'll bet that half the people who say "Trump's racist" don't actually have references handy other than "I heard it on the news!"
I still haven't heard any news report saying "Cop murders counterfeit suspect." All I hear them saying is "White Police Officer murders black man
I have a crazy idea; that if you do not want to be arrested by the police, maybe don't commit a crime? And if you are hassled, then you obtain the bad number of the officer and file a complaint with the detachment?
I apologize on behalf of the USA for having such a reckless media who assis in the spread of Covid.
There was no doubt that cop was going to jail. The media had no reason to accelerate people's emotions. Atrocious murders happen in this country ever day. Not just on Minnesota Day.
I also believe it is extremely reckless for anyone or any media to portray Floyd as some sort of martyr as it sends the message that praising criminal is okay... maybe even statue-worthy.
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views has. But again, in Australia its not as relevant. However, many
here are really, really backing one side over another, as if we actuallyli
I'm confident that the media in Australia, like in other countries, is trying to put ideas in your heads. Nobody in Australia should care
about the left or the right in the USA. They're stirring up emotions
for the good of it, and most likely there's a financial advantage for foreign media companies to show Trump from a negative viewpoint. If they're not getting a pile of gold, they're getting higher ratings by appealing to the liberal train of thought.
This is sorta unrelated but - what is George Floyd (the dead guy) doing
in foreign media? Are they saying that the USA consists of "mostly
white supremacists" or that "White supremacist Trump does nothing while innocent men are killed by cops?"
White supremacists are nothing in the USA. There might be a few out
here, but they have no power, never will, and the killing of George
Floyd was absolutely not racially motivated. The liberal media wants it the other way, however.
I'm sure Biden will declare masks to be ordered as mandatory law for everyone to wear until... whatever happens in 2024.
You do know that BLM protests happened in other countries? There were stat
of the US. Your corporate culture dictates ours.
Since you are Canadian, I forgive you for your ignorance. No US
president is above the law. Not even Donald Trump. The POTUS can
only enforce the law, not make the law.
In my city, we have a Martin Luther King statue, and now BLM has been grant permission to draw a "mural" (it's not a mural) on the street that the stat resides. It's a disgrace to Martin Luther King, the man who wanted us to tr each other like brothers & sisters - his legacy is being distorted with "my race is the only one that matters."
Pink paint was splashed upon a statue in Toronto and our media is spinning this into how unfair it was that the persons responsible for that clear act of vandalism were arrested.
We need to replace the confederate statues with statues of people who are modern day criminals. It's less offensive.
Then these statues should be located to places like New York, where it's totally fine to vandalize whatever you want without any fear of going to ja
Everyone wins in that scenario - and congratulations to Lee Lofaso! Everyth is free in New York now. Take what you want! Jail is for suckers.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-stat
You do know that BLM protests happened in other countries? There were
Yes, just remember that this is all because of 1 single murder that happened in the USA, and there are thousands of murders in the USA
every year.
of the US. Your corporate culture dictates ours.
How did the USA become so relevant in other parts of the world? Is it because of Michael Jackson or something? The USA is a terrible example
of a democracy, lately.
We need to replace the confederate statues with statues of people who are modern day criminals. It's less offensive.
Then these statues should be located to places like New York, where it's totally fine to vandalize whatever you want without any fear of going to jail.
Everyone wins in that scenario - and congratulations to Lee Lofaso! Everything is free in New York now. Take what you want! Jail is for suckers.
For all the Democrat supporters who keep asking about Trump's accomplishments, here's another:
Yesterday the Trump administration imposed tarrifs on 11 Chinese companies for using forced labor and other forms repression on Uighur Muslims.
I'm sure that Bill Clinton is disgusted by all this, but how do the other Democrat followers feel about Trump's human rights activism?
Are we happy that he stands up for human life in China, despite China's handling of the coronavirus?
What did Joe Biden do for human rights?
For all the Democrat supporters who keep asking about Trump's accomplishments, here's another:
Since Trump has failed to accomplish a thing, there is nothing
Every American, regardless of party affiliation, should be disgusted
at what the Trump administration is doing.
The USA has 4% of the world's population, and 28% of the total
percentage of coronavirus cases. What that shows is the leadership
of China has a much higher regard for human life than does the
like that. Especially if that TV host in the US is criticising something a Australia that the 'mainstream' thinks should be criticised.
You know, if Stephen Colbert says anything about Australia, there will be an article on a mainstream news website about it. We consider the fact that we are mentioned overseas as news! Just yesterday there was a news.com.au articl
about how the world is reacting to Melbournes new face mask laws or something like that. Especially if that TV host in the US is criticising something abou
Australia that the 'mainstream' thinks should be criticised.
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like that. Especially if that TV host in the US is criticising something
Australia that the 'mainstream' thinks should be criticised.
This sorta explains why foreign media (Australian for example) are
usually showing things from the Democrat prespective; it's what they
see and hear when checking in with this big brother.
"US President Trump is putting Mexican children in cages!"
A statement like that is more interesting for anyone to read than this one:
"US President Trump is protecting Mexican children from criminals."
So the foreign media is cherry-picking stories, I suspect.
You know, if Stephen Colbert says anything about Australia, there will be an article on a mainstream news website about it. We consider the fact that we are mentioned overseas as news! Just yesterday there was a news.com.au articl
about how the world is reacting to Melbournes new face mask laws or something like that. Especially if that TV host in the US is criticising something abou
Australia that the 'mainstream' thinks should be criticised.
Stephen Colbert is far from news, or entertainment.
Since you are Canadian, I forgive you for your ignorance. No US
president is above the law. Not even Donald Trump. The POTUS can
only enforce the law, not make the law.
And you just fell for my bait, you silly alcoholic Swedish ignoramus - So now then, if Trump is not above the law then this means you will retract the many Trump-is-Hitler chicken-little-sky-is-falling crap posts going foward? Or your many BS rants that he will not leave the office if he is voted out?
For all the Democrat supporters who keep asking about Trump's
accomplishments, here's another:
Since Trump has failed to accomplish a thing, there is nothing
Uighur Muslim Lives Don't Matter?
Every American, regardless of party affiliation, should be disgusted
at what the Trump administration is doing.
I don't get it - is today Democrats hate muslims day?
The USA has 4% of the world's population, and 28% of the total
If this country was run in the same rogue fashion as China, we'd be manufacturing numbers too.
percentage of coronavirus cases. What that shows is the leadership
of China has a much higher regard for human life than does the
The kind of leadership you're looking for is the enslavement party.
All the people who cried about 'children in cages' can thank Trump for his opposition to true 'concentration camps' being run by Bill Clinton's buddies in China.
about the virus at the moment, and the usual story about a car that somehow ended up crashing into a house, and some drama with some footballer.
Separating children from their parents, and putting those children
in cages is subhuman and crimes against humanity. And yet that is what
The kind of leadership you're looking for is the enslavement party.Tax cuts for the wealthy is no way to grow an economy, and makes
slaves of those who actually work for a living. That is what your
beloved Orange Menace has done, and continues to promote.
All the people who cried about 'children in cages' can thank Trump fo opposition to true 'concentration camps' being run by Bill Clinton's buddies in China.Separating children from their parents, and putting those children
in cages is subhuman and crimes against humanity. And yet that is what Trump has done, to the glee of his supporters. What a horrible excuse
of a human being he is, and always has been. Scum of the earth.
It seems that no matter where you go in the world, people are driving cars into houses. It's what's trending I guess :)
Yes, but many people in Australia are really, really worried about what opinion
people have of them.
James Carville said the Marines will show him the door if he refuses
to leave office. So that is not a worry at all. Okay, maybe for Trump.
Joe Biden loves all Americans, regarldless of their faith.
In fact, Joe Biden loves everybody, regardless of their faith.
But then, Joe Biden is a Christian who actually practices his
faith. Quite unlike The Orange One, who is only faithful to
himself.
Separating children from their parents, and putting those children
in cages is subhuman and crimes against humanity. And yet that is what
Trump has done, to the glee of his supporters. What a horrible excuse
of a human being he is, and always has been. Scum of the earth.
Perhaps there should be car-control laws?
It seems that no matter where you go in the world, people are driving cars into houses. It's what's trending I guess :)
Perhaps there should be car-control laws?
On 07-23-20 09:14, Aaron Thomas <=-
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The worst thing a Democrat can do (and they do it all they time) is
put the rights of criminals before the rights of victims. Deep down,
you know this. But the liberal journalist inside you won't admit it.
Your statement left out an important word. The priority is and should
be on the "rights of accused criminals", not "the rights of criminals".
Your statement left out an important word. The priority is and should be on the "rights of accused criminals", not "the rights of criminals"When an accused criminal goes to jail, and police know there are
children being left behind, the police try to make arrangements with a family member to look after the child(ren). What do you expect them to
do when there are no relatives in the USA? Get a Spanish speaking
officer to make a call to Guatemala?
Why not assign foster parents among those who are blaming government in cruelty? Let these people help poor separated children with not just word but deed.
And since we were talking about the incarnation of children who are separated from their parents, those children have committed no crime.
Plus, in most cases their parents have not committed anything worse than
a misdemeanor if even that.
Why not assign foster parents among those who are blaming government in cruelty? Let these people help poor separated children with not just word b deed.
shouldYour statement left out an important word. The priority is and
criminals"be on the "rights of accused criminals", not "the rights of
When an accused criminal goes to jail, and police know there area
children being left behind, the police try to make arrangements with
family member to look after the child(ren). What do you expect themto
do when there are no relatives in the USA? Get a Spanish speaking
officer to make a call to Guatemala?
Why not assign foster parents among those who are blaming government in cruelty? Let these people help poor separated children with not just word but
deed.
Because most lefties only want to do anything in word, they want the government to pay for it and take care of it.
Your statement left out an important word. The priority is and should
be on the "rights of accused criminals", not "the rights of criminals".
When an accused criminal goes to jail,
and police know there are children
being left behind, the police try to make arrangements with a family member
to look after the child(ren). What do you expect them to do when there are no
relatives in the USA? Get a Spanish speaking officer to make a call to Guatemala?
On 07-24-20 09:20, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
Your statement left out an important word. The priority is and should
be on the "rights of accused criminals", not "the rights of criminals".
When an accused criminal goes to jail, and police know there are
children being left behind, the police try to make arrangements with a family member to look after the child(ren). What do you expect them to
do when there are no relatives in the USA? Get a Spanish speaking
officer to make a call to Guatemala?
On 07-24-20 15:33, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
And since we were talking about the incarnation of children who are separated from their parents, those children have committed no crime.
Plus, in most cases their parents have not committed anything worse than
a misdemeanor if even that.
I believe that child endangerment/abuse is more than just a
misdemeanor.
On 07-24-20 12:14, Anton Mikhaylov <=-
spoke to Aaron Thomas about RE: Dems Love It <=-
Why not assign foster parents among those who are blaming government
in cruelty? Let these people help poor separated children with not just word but deed.
On 18 Jul 20 07:04, Aaron Thomas said the following to Dennis Katsonis:b AT> they have no power, never will, and the killing of George Floyd was NA>absolut AT> not racially motivated. The liberal media wants it the other
White supremacists are nothing in the USA. There might be a few out here,
way, however. As per my comments before about having a parent who NA>obsessively watches the evening news, I can only say that I deal with NA>people who honestly believe that American white cops are going out NA>purposely shooting and killing black people just because they are black.
All beliefs stemmed from the media. Nick
Children are not criminals. And neither are people who are seeking
asylum. And then there are dreamers, who also are not criminals.
Why not assign foster parents among those who are blaming government
in cruelty? Let these people help poor separated children with not just
word but deed.
That has happened, but there are not enough people available to satisfy the need. The other problem is that the US Government has lost track of how to reconnect the children with their parents.
And since we were talking about the incarnation of children who are separated from their parents, those children have committed no crime. Plus, in most cases their parents have not committed anything worse than
a misdemeanor if even that.
I believe that child endangerment/abuse is more than just a
misdemeanor.
Where do you come up with that? In most cases, the parents are
attempting to remove their children from danger and abuse.
What you seem to be missing is that those parents were not accused of
any serious crime, they were seeking asylum as they are allowed to do by
USA law. They should not have gone to jail, but instead should have had
a judicial hearing on their claim. No need for their children to be separated.
On 07-25-20 15:54, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
I believe that child endangerment/abuse is more than just a misdemeanor.
Where do you come up with that? In most cases, the parents are
attempting to remove their children from danger and abuse.
They drag them across hundreds of miles of Mexico, including many
areas known to be run by drug cartels and human traffic gangs, in order
to illegally cross the border into a country where they should know
there is a good chance they are going to be separated or be turned
back.
On 07-25-20 16:12, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
What you seem to be missing is that those parents were not accused of
any serious crime, they were seeking asylum as they are allowed to do by
USA law. They should not have gone to jail, but instead should have had
a judicial hearing on their claim. No need for their children to be separated.
If they are not kept somewhere they have a tendency to disappear
before those hearings take place.
Children are not criminals. And neither are people who are seeking
asylum. And then there are dreamers, who also are not criminals.
Your answer is about as good as an elected Demcorat's answer.
Who's going to look after the children while their parents are locked up?
Answering this question with "beautiful words, more beautiful words, vote for me" doesn't help the children who have been smuggled here.
They drag them across hundreds of miles of Mexico, including many
areas known to be run by drug cartels and human traffic gangs, in order
In other words, you admit that they are trying to escape an untenable
and unsafe situation.
to illegally cross the border into a country where they should know there is a good chance they are going to be separated or be turned
back.
How do you know that they know that? What they are really aware of is
the situation where they are and the need to escape it.
What you seem to be missing is that those parents were not accused of
any serious crime, they were seeking asylum as they are allowed to do by USA law. They should not have gone to jail, but instead should have had
That has happened, but there are not enough people available to satisfy
the need. The other problem is that the US Government has lost track of how to reconnect the children with their parents.
Put them up for adoption. Problem solved.
How do you know that they know that? What they are really aware of is
the situation where they are and the need to escape it.
The majority of asylum seekers do turn up for their hearings.
By federal law, those seeking asylum cannot be criminals.
Who's going to look after the children while their parents are locked
People who care about children.
visit these Central American countries but not safe enough to also travel w the families through Mexico because that is not safe.
visit these Central American countries but not safe enough to also travel w the families through Mexico because that is not safe.
I know an American couple who lost custody of their kids for residing in a camper.
On 07-26-20 11:58, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
How do you know that they know that? What they are really aware of is
the situation where they are and the need to escape it.
One way I know it is that I am related to someone who makes frequent
trips to Central America to encourage such behavior and to coach them
on what to do when they arrive. They also wait at the US-Mexico border whenever they expect a group to arrive to provide additional
assistance. So, they know they need coaching and why.
On 07-25-20 19:32, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
What you seem to be missing is that those parents were not accused of
any serious crime, they were seeking asylum as they are allowed to do by USA law. They should not have gone to jail, but instead should have had
Seeking asylum at the border wasn't a crime at the time, but sneaking
in was and still is a crime. Maybe not a "serious" crime through the
eyes of the liberal, but a crime is a crime. It's like showing up for
a job interview drunk. "I might be drunk for this interview, but I
won't drink on the job."
On 07-26-20 09:33, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
They also need to escape border patrol and ICE when they don't use the port of entry.
And why not seek asylum in Mexico? Mexico is as good as the USA.
On 07-26-20 09:34, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
The majority of asylum seekers do turn up for their hearings.
Where did you hear that? The opposite is what I heard.
On 07-26-20 09:44, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Dems Love It <=-
By federal law, those seeking asylum cannot be criminals.
The Supreme Court has ruled that asylum requests can not be made from within the USA.
Put them up for adoption. Problem solved.
That would be too convenient for Democrats. "Trump no longer caging children
but instead letting them go to children's homes for possible adoption."
Unfortunately, there's not a huge demand for adoptable children.
Thousands of American born children will never be adopted, so to suddenly find homes for the world's children would be unfair to those already born here.
By federal law, those seeking asylum cannot be criminals.
The Supreme Court has ruled that asylum requests can not be made from within
the USA.
Criminal or not, it's against our rules.
Who's going to look after the children while their parents are AT>locked
People who care about children.
Nobody cares about migrant children, except for border patrol.
So border patrol looks after the children while the parents are locked up for illegal entry into the USA. How do they do that? They lock the children
up too. Anything less would be dangerous for the children.
Why is it so important to Demcorats that migrant children roam around freely
in the streets of El Paso while their parents sit in a lockup? Don't Anderson Cooper me - Tell me how that would be beneficial to the children?
How is a 5 year old, or a newborn baby going to survive? Hunt for food?
Border Patrol does more for those children than any liberal activist.
What did AOC do for them?
She exploited them!
Vote for AOC because she complained about children in cages!
She didn't do jack to help them, but she cried for them & she relocated the
blame from the parents to Trump.
I would like to see you quote a reference to a ruling that says that. I cannot find such -- all I can find is a SC ruling that limits the right
of appeal for immigrants, not that they cannot apply for asylum.
I would like to see you quote a reference to a ruling that says DS>that.I cannot find such -- all I can find is a SC ruling that DS>limits the right of appeal for immigrants, not that they cannot DS>apply for asylum.
I support asylum seekers and immigration but yeah, the Supreme Court did rule
last September that the Trump administration can block asylum seekers from entering the country IF they have traveled through another country. Basically
designed to block Hondurans from traveling through Mexico. Can find the link
at the SCOTUS site if you want it.
but instead letting them go to children's homes for possible adoption.
Kidnapping children. A new low. Even for him. What a true sickie.
the border. Everyplace else (including Mexico, the Bahamas, and Europe)
has locked their own borders from us in order to protect their own
kiddies.
The Supreme Court has ruled that asylum requests can not be made fromwithin
the USA.
Since when?
Nobody cares about migrant children, except for border patrol.
Absurd statements make you look silly. Please put on your thinking
cap and start making sense.
Rather than separating children from their parents/guardians and
locking them up in cages, why not house them in detainment centers
with air conditioning and nice beds to sleep in, along with having
three full meals a day, with access to quality health care for all?
Because your sick and demented president hates children - meaning
It should be important to everybody that children and their parents
or guardians be kept together, and have their own places to stay once
they have been granted asylum
How is a 5 year old, or a newborn baby going to survive? Hunt for food
Many were forced into prostitution, or to sell drugs, which is
why their parents/guardians decided to take them to the USA.
Their own survival was their reason for seeking asylum in the USA.
And your opinion is to deny them the right to life?
Trump is a horrible cook. Cannot make toast or have the brains
to scramble an egg. He has got to go.
In Toronto, you can have the child-welfare authorities visit your home if at school they refuse to participate/believe in "transgender issues" and the progressive liberal principal deems you to be whateverphobic.
But hey, diversity and tolerance is our strength right?
the border. Everyplace else (including Mexico, the Bahamas, and Europe) has locked their own borders from us in order to protect their own kiddies.
Very good! Everyone should make protecting children their #1 priority. And a great way to start is by securing your border.
Yep. Everyone is worried about the migrant children being separated from their parents, but not so much about the same loose border controls being linked to human trafficking.
fromThe Supreme Court has ruled that asylum requests can not be made
within
the USA.
Since when?
September, 2019: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/us/politics/supreme-court-trump-asylum.html
In Toronto, you can have the child-welfare authorities visit your home if at school they refuse to participate/believe in "transgender issues" and the progressive liberal principal deems you to be whateverphobic.
Oh wow, that is way more dangerous than dragging your kids across large areas of land run by drug and human traffic cartels. I am glad to hear that Canada is being so pro-active. :)~
On 07-27-20 21:23, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Dems Love It <=-
I think we speak different dialects.
People who drag kids to the
warzone and lose their kids after endangering them, risking their children's lives, risking having their kids kidnapped by cartels,
risking their families being sexually assaulted along the way, these
are the trash who are harmful to children.
I know we've been here before - but what about the children of incarcerated American citizens?
You make a very good case for *why* they are taking their kids *out* of
a warzone and attempting to get them to a safer place.
According to your logic, any American citizen who is arrested for DUI should have their children taken away, moved to some unknown location
So proactive that the sex ed curriculum a few years ago had an attempted rewrite commissioned by our then in-your-face-lesbian liberal PM to include extremely graphic references to anal sex, masturbation with vegetables and teaching kindergarden children about the different "gender types".
People who drag kids to the
warzone and lose their kids after endangering them, risking their children's lives, risking having their kids kidnapped by cartels, risking their families being sexually assaulted along the way, these are the trash who are harmful to children.
You make a very good case for *why* they are taking their kids *out* of
a warzone and attempting to get them to a safer place.
Why is is so important to you, as a Democrat, that these children roam the streets? How does that benefit you?
Why is is so important to you, as a Democrat, that these children roam the streets? How does that benefit you?
"Look, look what bad Trump did!"
On 07-29-20 10:04, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
You make a very good case for *why* they are taking their kids *out* of
a warzone and attempting to get them to a safer place.
They are literally taking them to the war zone when they take them to
the Mexico/US border. If they have ever watched Telemundo world news,
then they know this.
According to your logic, any American citizen who is arrested for DUI should have their children taken away, moved to some unknown location
That is actually the way it is. Cops don't leave children unattended
to roam the streets and hunt for food. When their parents are incarcerated, the police make arrangements for the kids. If the nearest relative is in Honduras, then those kids will be in for some
CYFD/CYS/CPS custody.
Why is is so important to you, as a Democrat, that these children roam
the streets? How does that benefit you?
You trimmed a very important part of the message. The next line said something like "and lost the information about how to reunite the
children with the parents". That is one of the travesties that has happened in the over zealous border arrests and detentions.
On 07-30-20 10:15, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
You trimmed a very important part of the message. The next line said something like "and lost the information about how to reunite the
children with the parents". That is one of the travesties that has happened in the over zealous border arrests and detentions.
Some important information got lost, so to compensate, we're going to reward migrant children with freedom to roam the streets homeless?
A humain administration would have that sort of policy, versus the
current administrations policy of separation coupled with not making any effort to insure that the parents could ever see their children again.
And since we were talking about the incarnation of children who are separated from their parents, those children have committed no crime. Plus, in most cases their parents have not committed anything worse than
a misdemeanor if even that.
I believe that child endangerment/abuse is more than just a
misdemeanor.
Where do you come up with that? In most cases, the parents are
attempting to remove their children from danger and abuse.
They drag them across hundreds of miles of Mexico, including many areas MP>known to be run by drug cartels and human traffic gangs, in order to MP>illegally cross the border into a country where they should know there is MP>a good chance they are going to be separated or be turned back.
On 07-25-20 15:54, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
I believe that child endangerment/abuse is more than just a
misdemeanor.
Where do you come up with that? In most cases, the parents are
attempting to remove their children from danger and abuse.
They drag them across hundreds of miles of Mexico, including many
areas known to be run by drug cartels and human traffic gangs, in order
In other words, you admit that they are trying to escape an untenable
and unsafe situation. What they are doing is similar to what the DS>pilgrims did in crossing the Oregon trail in the 19th century --
enduring hardship for the promise of a better life.
to illegally cross the border into a country where they should know
there is a good chance they are going to be separated or be turned
back.
How do you know that they know that? What they are really aware of is DS>the situation where they are and the need to escape it.
On 07-25-20 16:12, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
What you seem to be missing is that those parents were not accused of
any serious crime, they were seeking asylum as they are allowed to do by
USA law. They should not have gone to jail, but instead should have had
a judicial hearing on their claim. No need for their children to be separated.
If they are not kept somewhere they have a tendency to disappear
before those hearings take place.
The majority of asylum seekers do turn up for their hearings.
On 07-26-20 11:58, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
How do you know that they know that? What they are really aware of is
the situation where they are and the need to escape it.
One way I know it is that I am related to someone who makes frequent
trips to Central America to encourage such behavior and to coach them
on what to do when they arrive. They also wait at the US-Mexico border whenever they expect a group to arrive to provide additional
assistance. So, they know they need coaching and why.
I would hope and expect that your relative is giving good advice, e.g. DS>cross and immediately turn yourself into a border patrol officer -- then DS>how to seek an immigration lawyer who will help them through the
process.
On 07-25-20 19:32, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
What you seem to be missing is that those parents were not accused of
any serious crime, they were seeking asylum as they are allowed to do by USA law. They should not have gone to jail, but instead should have had
Seeking asylum at the border wasn't a crime at the time, but sneaking
in was and still is a crime. Maybe not a "serious" crime through the
eyes of the liberal, but a crime is a crime. It's like showing up for
a job interview drunk. "I might be drunk for this interview, but I
won't drink on the job."
Your analogy is flawed. Turning up for a job interview drunk is not a DS>crime, it is just dumb. Crossing the border and then surrendering to a DS>border patrol agent is not a crime any worse than jay walking -- a DS>misdemeaner at most.
On 07-26-20 09:33, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
They also need to escape border patrol and ICE when they don't use the
port of entry.
Many of them do not attempt to evaid border patrol -- they look for them DS>so that they can submit themselves for asylum.
And why not seek asylum in Mexico? Mexico is as good as the USA.
If you belive that Mexico is as good as the USA, why not move there? It DS>is clear that the immigrants do not belive that.
On 07-26-20 09:44, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Dems Love It <=-
By federal law, those seeking asylum cannot be criminals.
The Supreme Court has ruled that asylum requests can not be made from within the USA.
I would like to see you quote a reference to a ruling that says that. I DS>cannot find such -- all I can find is a SC ruling that limits the right DS>of appeal for immigrants, not that they cannot apply for asylum.
And since we were talking about the incarnation of children who are
separated from their parents, those children have committed no crime.
Plus, in most cases their parents have not committed anything worse than
a misdemeanor if even that.
I believe that child endangerment/abuse is more than just a
misdemeanor.
Where do you come up with that? In most cases, the parents are
attempting to remove their children from danger and abuse.
They drag them across hundreds of miles of Mexico, including many areas
known to be run by drug cartels and human traffic gangs, in order to
illegally cross the border into a country where they should know there is
a good chance they are going to be separated or be turned back.
And after doing that, what makes anyone think they are `responsible parents'
to begin with?
What `responsible' parent subjects a child to all of that peril to begin with?
How do you know that they know that? What they are really aware of is
the situation where they are and the need to escape it.
One way I know it is that I am related to someone who makes frequent
trips to Central America to encourage such behavior and to coach them
on what to do when they arrive. They also wait at the US-Mexico border
whenever they expect a group to arrive to provide additional
assistance. So, they know they need coaching and why.
I would hope and expect that your relative is giving good advice, e.g.
cross and immediately turn yourself into a border patrol officer -- then
how to seek an immigration lawyer who will help them through the
process.
You miss a large point. There's something a lot of people are ignoring:
As the democrats like to spout whenever they get in front of a microphone; we are a system of laws!
The people who are entering Mexico and then entering the US illegally are here ILLEGALLY!
People who travel to foreign countries to coach people how to gain entry illegally are aiding and abetting criminal activity.
BTW.....I wonder how a person who engages in the activity of aiding and abetting any of these people, feels when an `illegal alien'
murders an American!
Do they wonder if that illegal might have been in a group they had coached? That the American victim might still be alive but for their own activity?
They also need to escape border patrol and ICE when they don't use the
port of entry.
Many of them do not attempt to evaid border patrol -- they look for them
so that they can submit themselves for asylum.
Thats a lie! Where do they think they're going to `look for them' while hiding in the trunk of a car! Or all those `illegals' stashed on freight htrains eading away from the border? Is there a `border patrol station' on the
caboose?
And why not seek asylum in Mexico? Mexico is as good as the USA.
If you belive that Mexico is as good as the USA, why not move there? It
is clear that the immigrants do not belive that.
We have laws (as democrats are always tossing out there) on `immigration'.
Hiding in the trunks of cars....stashing behind false walls in semi trailers... sneaking onto a beach from a boat in the middle of the night.... if they want `in' do it legally. The first time they are caught coming in illegally they should never be allowed to apply to stay here again in their lifetime.
By federal law, those seeking asylum cannot be criminals.
The Supreme Court has ruled that asylum requests can not be made from
within the USA.
I would like to see you quote a reference to a ruling that says that. I
cannot find such -- all I can find is a SC ruling that limits the right
of appeal for immigrants, not that they cannot apply for asylum.
A couple of things;
Firstly...seeking `asylum' is from horrendous conditions in the country they
are coming from.
And the rule for `asylum' is it has to be applied for in the FIRST country the asylum-seeker enters. In the vast majority of cases thats `Mexico'!
So if they ENTER Mexico to get to the United States they have no grounds to
apply for `asylum' here. They were already IN a country they could have had
`asylum' in. So their asking for it here is null and void.
Secondly....even more illegal aliens are now from mid-eastern countries pouring in America. Many of whom are `enemies' of this country.
They drag them across hundreds of miles of Mexico, including many areas MP>known to be run by drug cartels and human traffic gangs, in order to MP>illegally cross the border into a country where they should know there is MP>a good chance they are going to be separated or be turned back.
And after doing that, what makes anyone think they are `responsible parents' to begin with?
What `responsible' parent subjects a child to all of that peril to begin with?
Most of the time they have to `enter' Mexico in order to get here. Which, according to our own immigration laws' is the *first* non-untenable and relatively `safe' country they arrive in!
No need to *ILLEGALLY* enter the US....they're already `safe' in Mexico!
People who live nowhere near the Mexican border don't have a clue what we p up with out here. Illegals POUR across the border out here, from the ocean
perhaps for Russia, which now rules the USA through Putin's puppet.
On 07-31-20 21:01, Tim Richardson <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Dems Love It <=-
If they are not kept somewhere they have a tendency to disappear
before those hearings take place.
The majority of asylum seekers do turn up for their hearings.
No....they don't!
perhaps for Russia, which now rules the USA through Putin's puppet.
Putin's puppet lost the big election in 2016.
perhaps for Russia, which now rules the USA through Putin's puppet.Putin's puppet lost the big election in 2016.
I think those who defend illegals are either 1) addicted to drugs that flow through the border or 2) are sex predators who can't live without forced prostitution or 3) are business owners profiting from slave-labor, or 4) are homosexual and feel like they owe something to the liberal agenda.
coaches, fall into a combination of 1, 3, 4, & 5. If they did not have a strong belief in #3 they would never ever help them. Never. Ever.
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