https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/the-jolt-month-violence-atlanta-gives- republicans-target/yLNInJZu10ajyJP8MD5W0N/

https://tinyurl.com/ychmwfhd

Just after Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms pleaded Sunday for an end to the violence in the cityrCOs streets, police reported another fatal shooting a short
hop from the charred WendyrCOs where an 8-year-old was killed. [...]

rCLOfficers are afraid to do their job,rCY Jason Segura, an Atlanta officer who leads the local union, told Sharpe.

[...] The surge in gunplay comes at a tricky time for Bottoms, considered a top-tier potential running-mate for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

rCLIrCOm also furious. IrCOm furious that elected officials with a radical agenda
have decided to appease violent criminals instead of protecting the public.
And IrCOm furious that these rCyleadersrCO refuse to support law enforcement at a
time when they need it most,rCY

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Hello Mike,

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/the-jolt-month-violence-atlanta-gives- republicans-target/yLNInJZu10ajyJP8MD5W0N/

https://tinyurl.com/ychmwfhd

Just after Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms pleaded Sunday for an end to the violence in the cityrCOs streets, police reported another fatal shooting a short hop from the charred WendyrCOs where an 8-year-old was killed. [...]

That is what happens in every major city in America. Yet, Trump has
chosen to do nothing about it. Except criticise mayors and governors
as if it is all their own fault. So what is your plan, Mr. Trump?
Do you even have a plan? Didn't think so ...

Shortly after informing the world another senseless murder took
place in her city, the mayor announced she had tested positive for
COVID-19 and had to place herself in self-quarantine. But she'll
be back. Unless she doesn't make it, in which case somebody else
will have to be found to do her job.

--Lee

--
Nothing sucks like an Electrolux

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That is what happens in every major city in America. Yet, Trump has
chosen to do nothing about it. Except criticise mayors and governors
as if it is all their own fault. So what is your plan, Mr. Trump?
Do you even have a plan? Didn't think

It is their fault. If you lived in America, you'd know that mayors and governors set the policies for what happens in their cities and states.

#
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Hello Mike,

That is what happens in every major city in America. Yet, Trump has
chosen to do nothing about it. Except criticise mayors and governors
as if it is all their own fault. So what is your plan, Mr. Trump?
Do you even have a plan? Didn't think

It is their fault. If you lived in America, you'd know that mayors and governors set the policies for what happens in their cities and states.

The POTUS is threatening to deport foreign students if they do not
attend college classes on campus, even if the college thay attend
offers no classes on campus due to the coronavirus pandemic. Your
president is a psychopath who needs to be put out to pasture.

--Lee

--
Laying Pipe Since '88

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On 07-08-20 19:39, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

That is what happens in every major city in America. Yet, Trump has
chosen to do nothing about it. Except criticise mayors and governors
as if it is all their own fault. So what is your plan, Mr. Trump?
Do you even have a plan? Didn't think

It is their fault. If you lived in America,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

you'd know that mayors
and governors set the policies for what happens in their cities and states.

Sometimes that is true -- but in the current COVID pandemic, there are
mayors who have issued policy statements trying to protect their
constituents only to be overturned by the governor

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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Hello Dale,

That is what happens in every major city in America. Yet, Trump has
chosen to do nothing about it. Except criticise mayors and governors
as if it is all their own fault. So what is your plan, Mr. Trump?
Do you even have a plan? Didn't think

It is their fault. If you lived in America,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

He does not think the largest swamp in North America is part of the
USA? Fifty miles wide and one hundred fifty miles long. With lots of alligators, and owls, and other critters. Pogo would have loved it
here. Or at least made it a second home.

--Lee

--
Not my president!

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It is their fault. If you lived in America,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

you'd know that mayors
and governors set the policies for what happens in their cities and states.

Sometimes that is true -- but in the current COVID pandemic, there are
mayors who have issued policy statements trying to protect their
constituents only to be overturned by the governor

That is also true. In some states, cities may not have as much leeway as
in others. In our state, I think the mayor of the largest city and the governor have bumped heads a time or two but they are mostly in-sync with
their messages.


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On 07-10-20 11:38, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

It is their fault. If you lived in America,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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On 07-11-20 00:50, Dale Shipp <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

It is their fault. If you lived in America,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

I got your netmail -- I wonder why you don't want to expose your
conspiracy induendo theory to the public echo?

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)




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On 11 Jul 20 00:50:00, Dale Shipp said the following to Mike Powell:

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

After years of studying posts from Lee and Felten, the simularities are striking. Not to mention that when Felten was kicked out of this echo, Lee suddenly took his place. Add to this the simular language gaffes,
Matlock-level knowledge of P4, overall propensity to be a know-it-all dick and refusal to obtain a node number despite my personal invitation/challenge.

It is now an open-secret that Lee is just a fictional character in a delusional alcoholic widower's mind. Nothing more than a bunch of scribbled notes next to a monitor of how the Lee character should talk, act, quote,
troll etc. To engage with Lee whatsoever only masturbates Felten's ego.

When Felten had a boo-hoo hard drive crash, Lee vanished and there was an
odd "calm" in this echo and others. I can almost guarantee with absolute certainty that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, Lee will
vanish right along with him.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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Yes. Why don't you?

I got your netmail -- I wonder why you don't want to expose your
conspiracy induendo theory to the public echo?

# Any moderator action is OFF-TOPIC for public discussion in the echo. If
you have a problem with a moderator action, please contact him privately.

That said, I addressed it with him directly to begin with.

Thank you.


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Hello Dale,

It is their fault. If you lived in America,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

I got your netmail -- I wonder why you don't want to expose your conspiracy induendo theory to the public echo?

Mike (and others) are invited to expose whatever conspiracy innuendo
theories he has in the CONSPRCY echo.

Lee Lofaso
Moderator, CONSPRCY echo

--
Pork: the other white meat

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Hello Mike,

Yes. Why don't you?

I got your netmail -- I wonder why you don't want to expose your
conspiracy induendo theory to the public echo?

# Any moderator action is OFF-TOPIC for public discussion in the echo. If
you have a problem with a moderator action, please contact him privately.

That said, I addressed it with him directly to begin with.

Thank you.

All individuals are free to use whatever real names they wish, and
of their own choosing.

Thankyouberrymuch.

--Lee

--
We! Reject! The president-nonelect!

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Hello Nick,

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

After years of studying posts from Lee and Felten, the simularities are striking. Not to mention that when Felten was kicked out of this echo, Lee suddenly took his place. Add to this the simular language gaffes, Matlock-level knowledge of P4, overall propensity to be a know-it-all dick and refusal to obtain a node number despite my personal invitation/challenge.

You're right. Time to confess. My name is Andrew Ray, Mayor of Windsor,
Canada. Glad to meet you. I do appreciate your vote.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/ontario-mayor-uses-alias-email -address-for-city-business-experts-question-transparency-1.4779623

It is now an open-secret that Lee is just a fictional character in a delusional alcoholic widower's mind. Nothing more than a bunch of scribbled
notes next to a monitor of how the Lee character should talk, act, quote, troll etc. To engage with Lee whatsoever only masturbates Felten's ego.

Sure had you fooled. Along with most other Canucks. Maybe Justin
Trudeau will decide to also come out and tell us all who he really
is.

When Felten had a boo-hoo hard drive crash, Lee vanished and there was an odd "calm" in this echo and others. I can almost guarantee with absolute certainty that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure,
Lee will vanish right along with him.

Oh, come now. Do realize Bj”rn was my campaign manager and needed
some time away from Sweden in order to do his job. Now that I've
cleaned up the mess the previous mayor made, I'll be stepping aside
so you can clean up the mess I leave behind. Howzzat? I know you
will absolutely love Windsor ...

--Lee

--
Change Is Cumming

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On 07-12-20, NICK ANDRE said to DALE SHIPP:

On 11 Jul 20 00:50:00, Dale Shipp said the following to Mike Powell:

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

After years of studying posts from Lee and Felten, the simularities are NA>striking. Not to mention that when Felten was kicked out of this echo, Lee NA>suddenly took his place. Add to this the simular language gaffes, NA>Matlock-level knowledge of P4, overall propensity to be a know-it-all dick NA>and refusal to obtain a node number despite my personal NA>invitation/challenge.

Felten is a real person.


When another person who is no longer in Fido made up a disgusting lie about Lofaso, and Kracht backed that lie up (for which she has never apologized), I exposed their lie and defended Lofaso.


Kracht blackballed me from Fido for quite a long time, made most sysops in North America disallow me from posting in Fido.


During that time Felten kindly allowed me to download Fido message packets
from his board, although my software would never quite jell with his board so that I could post message packets on his board.


Felten wasn't the only one who offered me that kindness. Other sysops around the world did so as well. And (although I will not name them) a few sysops
here in this zone did so too (Kracht doesn't have such all-encompassing influence in this zone as she thinks she does).


Felten and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of subjects, and have had our ups and downs over the years. But he's just as real a person as you are.


And so.....to our everlasting regret...is Lee Lofaso.


By the way, Kracht....where IS that apology?


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On 07-12-20 09:17, Nick Andre <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

On 11 Jul 20 00:50:00, Dale Shipp said the following to Mike Powell:

Why do you think that Lee does not live in the USA?

Do you believe he does?

Yes. Why don't you?

After years of studying posts from Lee and Felten, the simularities
are striking.

Only to the delusional.

Not to mention that when Felten was kicked out of this
echo, Lee suddenly took his place.

Just when do you think that happened? Lee appeared in this echo in
February 2019. Bj”rn has never posted here, at least not since November
2014. You are spouting fake news.

Add to this the simular language
gaffes,

PUSU.

Matlock-level knowledge of P4,

P4 is available for anyone to read and understand, flawed though it may
be.

overall propensity to be a know-it-all dick

OK, so you don't like his trolls -- especially when they hit too close
to home.

and refusal to obtain a node number despite my
personal invitation/challenge.

Your point is?

It is now an open-secret that Lee is just a fictional character in a delusional alcoholic widower's mind. Nothing more than a bunch of scribbled notes next to a monitor of how the Lee character should talk, act, quote, troll etc. To engage with Lee whatsoever only masturbates Felten's ego.

Sounds like a nut-job conspiracy to me. If that is what you want to
believe, go for it -- but you have presented no believable evidence.

When Felten had a boo-hoo hard drive crash, Lee vanished and there was
an odd "calm" in this echo and others. I can almost guarantee with absolute certainty that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, Lee will vanish right along with him.

Could that be because Lee is a user on Bj”rn's BBS and posts from there?
Why jump to a wild conclusion when the most simple and ovious one can
easily be believed as the truth.

You may not like what Lee posts -- that is your right.
You may not like what Bj”rn posts -- that is also your right.
But to go around spreading rumors with no basis in fact is not good
thing to do.


Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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On 07-12-20 10:24, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

Yes. Why don't you?

I got your netmail -- I wonder why you don't want to expose your
conspiracy induendo theory to the public echo?

# Any moderator action is OFF-TOPIC for public discussion in the echo.
If you have a problem with a moderator action, please contact him privately.

That said, I addressed it with him directly to begin with.

Thank you.

I have yet to see any moderator action other than a recent posting of
the rules.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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When another person who is no longer in Fido made up a disgusting lie about

We should get a new echo created called "The Politics of Fidonet."

I've seen a little of it!

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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Just when do you think that happened? Lee appeared in this echo in
February 2019. Bj.rn has never posted here, at least not since November 2014. You are spouting fake news.

Lee has been around FIDO a lot longer than that.

A lot of people have notices the similarities and alleged coincidences.
Even Lee recently mentioned Bjorn without Bjorn's name being mentioned.

OK, so you don't like his trolls -- especially when they hit too close
to home.

Few people do like trolling, regardless.

Could that be because Lee is a user on Bj.rn's BBS and posts from there?
Why jump to a wild conclusion when the most simple and ovious one can
easily be believed as the truth.

Lee could always post from somewhere else if Bjorn's leaves the network.

You may not like what Lee posts -- that is your right.
You may not like what Bj.rn posts -- that is also your right.

If Lee was posting a bunch of stuff you disagree with, I am wondering if
you'd be singing the same song? I am guessing not.

One positive for Lee is that he has never tried, to my knowledge, to move a discussion from netmail back into the echo.


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When Felten had a boo-hoo hard drive crash, Lee vanished and there was an
odd "calm" in this echo and others. I can almost guarantee with absolute certainty that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, Lee will vanish right along with him.

Unless maybe Dale knows that Lee is not Bjorn because Lee is really Dale. :O

<GRIN>


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Hello Aaron,

When another person who is no longer in Fido made up a disgusting TR>lie

about

We should get a new echo created called "The Politics of Fidonet."

I've seen a little of it!

Naming such an echo FIDOWARS would do it. But those wars ended
quite some time ago, and best to leave them buried.

Better would be a new echo created inviting all to come up with
ideas as to how to expand Fidonet from what it is today to what it
can become in the future.

--Lee

--
Laying Pipe Since '88

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On 07-13-20 16:05, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

Just when do you think that happened? Lee appeared in this echo in
February 2019. Bj.rn has never posted here, at least not since November 2014. You are spouting fake news.

Lee has been around FIDO a lot longer than that.

Yes -- what I said had to do with the statement that Lee suddenly
appeared here when Bj”rn left here -- clearly a fake news statement.

Could that be because Lee is a user on Bj.rn's BBS and posts from there?
Why jump to a wild conclusion when the most simple and ovious one can
easily be believed as the truth.

Lee could always post from somewhere else if Bjorn's leaves the
network.

Maybe, maybe not. I recall that Lee got booted from multiple BBSes in
zone 1 before he went to Bj”rn's BBS.

You may not like what Lee posts -- that is your right.
You may not like what Bj.rn posts -- that is also your right.

If Lee was posting a bunch of stuff you disagree with, I am wondering
if you'd be singing the same song? I am guessing not.

I have spoken out against both of them on occasion when they posted
false statements. I don't respond to troll posts.

One positive for Lee is that he has never tried, to my knowledge, to
move a discussion from netmail back into the echo.

Your point is what? You sent me a netmail saying what you were
unwilling to say in public. I do not do that. I prefer public
discussions. As far as I am concerned netmail an inappropriate media
for public discussions.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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On 07-13-20 16:05, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Nick Andre about Re: VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

When Felten had a boo-hoo hard drive crash, Lee vanished and there was an odd "calm" in this echo and others. I can almost guarantee with absolute certainty that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, Lee will vanish right along with him.

Unless maybe Dale knows that Lee is not Bjorn because Lee is really
Dale. :O
<GRIN>

Well, I do Cajun cooking -- but I doubt that I do it as good as Lee.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)



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--- Maximus/NT 3.01
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Better would be a new echo created inviting all to come up with
ideas as to how to expand Fidonet from what it is today to what it
can become in the future.

That's a good idea!

I estimate that about 3 out of 4 BBSs don't carry Fidonet, most likely due
to restrictions. It needs some modernizing.

But making Fidonet more available to BBSs could ruin the fun for the powerful Fidonet gods.

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

Re: Re: VP Hopeful has Hands
By: Aaron Thomas to Lee Lofaso on Tue Jul 14 2020 08:42:58

I estimate that about 3 out of 4 BBSs don't carry Fidonet, most
likely due to restrictions. It needs some modernizing.

there are no restrictions on a system wanting to join and be in fidonet... BBSes that don't carry fidonet are known to not want to because of the fighting/debates that get pretty deep at times and have done so over the last
30 years...

But making Fidonet more available to BBSs could ruin the fun for
the powerful Fidonet gods.

fidonet is available to any system that can meet the basic requirements...

1. present a FTN mailer when necessary
2. send/receive netmail
3. can poll another FTN mailer to send/receive mail and files

that's it... they don't have to participate in echomail and they don't even need to be able to toss mail... as long as they can send netmail and receive it, that's a go... being able to reply to received netmail is also a
good thing... some mailers have editors that can read netmail the mailer has unpacked from the packet(s)... other mailers cannot perform this feat of majik and require a mail tosser to extract the messages and place them
somewhere they can be read and replied to...


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Hello Dale,

When Felten had a boo-hoo hard drive crash, Lee vanished and there was an
odd "calm" in this echo and others. I can almost guarantee with absolute
certainty that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, Lee will
vanish right along with him.

Unless maybe Dale knows that Lee is not Bjorn because Lee is really
Dale. :O
<GRIN>

Well, I do Cajun cooking -- but I doubt that I do it as good as Lee.

That is probably true, but there are some who have or do quite well.

Emeril Lagasse is from Massachusetts, and Portuguese by descent.
He moved to New Orleans, and learned Cajun at Commander's Palace.
I met him in person, and was kind to autograph of one of his books
I had bought as a gift. Signed it "BAM!" telling me the person I
give it to would know what it means. Sure enough, he was right.

Justin Wilson was not Cajun, being from Florida and definitely not
of French or Cajun heritage. He did have the capacity to learn, and
was very talented. Wrote several books, and his television show was
fun. Lived most of his adult life in Louisiana, and was named an
honorary Cajun.

I learned Cajun cooking when I was a kid, not needing recipes. Tip
O'Neil had a saying "All politics is local", but cooking is the same
thing. I learned from those around me. When I got older I learned
how to cook from recipes, and to adapt recipes to my liking.

Cajun and Italian are my favorites, but not limited to those foods.
Central Grocery Store in New Orleans was my favorite place to get
muffaletto sandwiches. I finally found a suitable olive salad mix
comparable to what was used in those sandwiches. Ms. Tupa never
would tell anybody how she made it, keeping it secret from the whole
world. I have her cookbook, with her autograph. But she did not
include her recipe for the olive salad mix, as that is what made
her muffaletto sandwiches so distinctive.

I'll send you a netmail on how to make it.

--Lee

--
Hands too small! Can't build a wall!

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Hello Dale,

Just when do you think that happened? Lee appeared in this echo in
February 2019. Bj.rn has never posted here, at least not since November
2014. You are spouting fake news.

Lee has been around FIDO a lot longer than that.

Yes -- what I said had to do with the statement that Lee suddenly
appeared here when Bj”rn left here -- clearly a fake news statement.

Of course it is. But why spoil their fun? You think Biden is going
to tell Trump to shut up? Not a chance ...

Could that be because Lee is a user on Bj.rn's BBS and posts from there?
Why jump to a wild conclusion when the most simple and ovious one can
easily be believed as the truth.

Lee could always post from somewhere else if Bjorn's leaves the
network.

Maybe, maybe not. I recall that Lee got booted from multiple BBSes in zone 1 before he went to Bj”rn's BBS.

Booted? I have access to several BBSes, including in Zone 1, and
do not limit sending and receiving messages from Bj”rn's BBS. So why
would getting "booted" bother me? Or anybody else, for that matter?

Claiming I was "booted from multiple BBSes" is either a total
misunderstanding or a deliberate misrepresentation of facts.

As it has been pointed out to you (and others) quite clearly, Ross
Cassell was causing problems in Fidonet for several participants.
He had the backing of Janis Kracht, who supported his every action.

The man was a disgrace to all of Fidonet, and is a sorry excuse
of a human being. If he ever decides to return to Fidonet, I hope
he does so as a better person.

Both he and Janis Kracht owe me a public apology. They also owe many
others a public apology. Far too many to name. But that's okay. Their
lack of integrity shows all who they truly are.

BTW, Janis is welcome to have her own say. Right here, in this forum.
So is Ross. See how nice I am? Letting them have their own say. In
public. For all to read. No censorship or feedcuts at all.

Nick Andre will see to that.
So will Mike Powell.
And so should we all.

You may not like what Lee posts -- that is your right.
You may not like what Bj.rn posts -- that is also your right.

If Lee was posting a bunch of stuff you disagree with, I am wondering
if you'd be singing the same song? I am guessing not.

I have spoken out against both of them on occasion when they posted
false statements. I don't respond to troll posts.

Politicians never lie. They are just expedient with the truth.

One positive for Lee is that he has never tried, to my knowledge, to
move a discussion from netmail back into the echo.

Your point is what? You sent me a netmail saying what you were
unwilling to say in public. I do not do that. I prefer public discussions. As far as I am concerned netmail an inappropriate media
for public discussions.

If Mike or Nick have anything they want to say to me, they can
say it here, in public, in this very echo. For all to see. I don't
mind. In fact, I would really enjoy reading it. Wouldn't you?

One other thing -

Open invitation to ALL to participate in the CONSPRCY echo.

--Lee

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On 14 Jul 20 09:18:08, Mark Lewis said the following to Aaron Thomas:

BBSes that don't carry fidonet are known to not want to because of the fighting/debates that get pretty deep at times and have done so over the la 30 years...

Absolutely 100% correct.

Nick

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On 14 Jul 20 19:47:02, Lee Lofaso said the following to Dale Shipp:

BTW, Janis is welcome to have her own say. Right here, in this forum.
So is Ross. See how nice I am? Letting them have their own say. In
public. For all to read. No censorship or feedcuts at all.

Nick Andre will see to that.

The only thing I will see to, is that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, you will likely 100% be gone either because the imaginary/masturbatory fantasy has reached its final conclusion or the fact that absolutely no other BBS Sysop will want to put up with your shit.

I strongly suspect that ******if****** you are indeed a real person, you will be politely told by many Sysops you've long annoyed worldwide to go obtain your own node number.

Nick

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Hello Nick,

BTW, Janis is welcome to have her own say. Right here, in this forum.
So is Ross. See how nice I am? Letting them have their own say. In
public. For all to read. No censorship or feedcuts at all.

Nick Andre will see to that.

The only thing I will see to, is that when Felten makes his eventual grand-departure, you will likely 100% be gone either because the imaginary/masturbatory fantasy has reached its final conclusion or the fact
that absolutely no other BBS Sysop will want to put up with your shit.

Ooh, how much fun to live inside your head rent free!

I strongly suspect that ******if****** you are indeed a real person, you will be politely told by many Sysops you've long annoyed worldwide to go obtain your own node number.

"Most of what we think to be our own thoughts are
actually a psycho-cultural phenomenon. Culture is how
we behave. It is a living legacy. It is the box we are
in. We can change our culture."
~ Dan Sperber, Culturally Transmitted Misbeliefs

Your thoughts are not your own ...

--Lee

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As it has been pointed out to you (and others) quite clearly, Ross
Cassell was causing problems in Fidonet for several participants.
He had the backing of Janis Kracht, who supported his every action.

[...]

Both he and Janis Kracht owe me a public apology. They also owe many
others a public apology. Far too many to name. But that's okay. Their
lack of integrity shows all who they truly are.

BTW, Janis is welcome to have her own say. Right here, in this forum.
So is Ross. See how nice I am? Letting them have their own say. In
public. For all to read. No censorship or feedcuts at all.

Nick Andre will see to that.
So will Mike Powell.
And so should we all.

Just as long as you keep it legal... no blows below the waist, no spitting,
no chokeholds, no chairs or chains, and everyone must wear a mask.


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On 07-14-20 17:29, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about VP Hopeful has Hands <=-

Cajun and Italian are my favorites, but not limited to those foods. Central Grocery Store in New Orleans was my favorite place to get muffaletto sandwiches.

I agree -- we make a point to go there each time we visit NOLA. There
is a place just up the street that serves hot muffaletta, claims to be
the best --- but I disagree.

I finally found a suitable olive salad mix
comparable to what was used in those sandwiches. Ms. Tupa never
would tell anybody how she made it, keeping it secret from the whole world. I have her cookbook, with her autograph. But she did not
include her recipe for the olive salad mix, as that is what made
her muffaletto sandwiches so distinctive.

We did find something that is quite good. It is in jars and
occasionally sold at Costco -- but not all the time. I don't recall the
brand name though.

I'll send you a netmail on how to make it.

Got it.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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Hello Dale,

Cajun and Italian are my favorites, but not limited to those foods.
Central Grocery Store in New Orleans was my favorite place to get
muffaletto sandwiches.

I agree -- we make a point to go there each time we visit NOLA. There
is a place just up the street that serves hot muffaletta, claims to be
the best --- but I disagree.

There are many copycats, but none like the original. Central Grocery
is on Decatur, as you know. I forget the name of the other place, not
far from there, but their version is not nearly the same. Still good,
and some folks do prefer theirs.

The muffuletta bread is only made in New Orleans, not anywhere else
to the best of my knowledge. Only other way to get it is to make it
yourself. Fortunately, I have found a recipe for that, the lady who
came up with it also having recipes for the muffuletta and olive
salad mix. If you and others want to take the time to make your own,
here is the url -

http://www.nolacuisine.com/creole-cajun-recipe-page/


Find the recipe on the index page and choose the ones you like.
Making the olive salad mix is a time-consuming process, regardless
of which recipe you use. But well worth the effort.

I finally found a suitable olive salad mix
comparable to what was used in those sandwiches. Ms. Tupa never
would tell anybody how she made it, keeping it secret from the whole
world. I have her cookbook, with her autograph. But she did not
include her recipe for the olive salad mix, as that is what made
her muffaletto sandwiches so distinctive.

We did find something that is quite good. It is in jars and
occasionally sold at Costco -- but not all the time. I don't recall the brand name though.

There are a few brands that are good. But homemade is always best.
And do remember to brush the insides of both sides of the bread with
the oil from the olive salad mix, otherwise the bread will taste too
dry.

I'll send you a netmail on how to make it.

Got it.

Now for gumbo file. Not all file is the same. Most is fake.
Some totally tasteless. Others horrible. Many soak up nothing.
But I know how to make it.

Zatarans, a brand in New Orleans, used to sell a quality gumbo file.
But then started doing something that totally destroyed their product.
They cut their file with spices never meant to be included in file,
changing the color from a dark olive green to a yucky gray. Other
companies also did the same.

File gumbo is ground sassafras leaves. 100% ground sassafras leaves.
Nothing added. Many brands, such as Zatarans, no longer sell true file
gumbo. Only way to get the good stuff is either to make it yourself,
or get hold of Tony Chachere's brand (I did a check and comparison).

What you get at dollar stoes is anybody's guess. Not even sure
if it is compatible for humans.

--Lee

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Hello Mike,

[..]

BTW, Janis is welcome to have her own say. Right here, in this forum.
So is Ross. See how nice I am? Letting them have their own say. In
public. For all to read. No censorship or feedcuts at all.

Nick Andre will see to that.
So will Mike Powell.
And so should we all.

Just as long as you keep it legal... no blows below the waist, no spitting,
no chokeholds, no chairs or chains, and everyone must wear a mask.

Mercy, mercy! Would it be okay to brandish loaded guns at peaceful
protestors marching across your lawn? A couple in St. Louis did just
that, and the DA wants to have them arrested and put on trial on
various charges. You really should think twice before violating the
first amendments those peaceful protestors have. Much better to join
them, and help lead them on their way to wherever they are going.

--Lee

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On 07-13-20, AARON THOMAS said to TIM RICHARDSON:

When another person who is no longer in Fido made up a disgusting lie

about We should get a new echo created called "The Politics of Fidonet."

I've seen a little of it!

If this were several years ago I'd say thats a good idea. But now I only sign on to Fido about once a week....and sometimes I even forget to for a couple of weeks. Its not all that important to me anymore. I only sign on to read a few of the decent people who know how to have a conversation.


Too many control freaks in Fido.



Tagline.....


"Did you guys hear a dog barking or is it just me?" .....Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi



BTW....the dog in question knew about the mission. Pelosi couldn't be trusted to be told about the mission until it was over. And she was pissed!

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