• Trump the assasin

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 01:15:19
    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    "What was the question?"

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 09:09:18
    On 30 Sep 20 01:15, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Not just Biden but Wallace as well.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:18:32
    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Not just Biden but Wallace as well.

    Chris Wallace is cool. I'm sure he helped Trump a little, but Biden did all the work.

    When Trump awkwardly brought Hunter's corruption into the debate, I laughed so hard I cried. And when Joe began to look down towards the ground, his long face was hilarious too.

    Trump said something funny about Obama too but I forgot what it was. Trump is the first president to make me laugh and it was funny as hell.

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  • From Gate Keeper@1:3634/27 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:20:54
    Re: Trump the assasin
    By: Aaron Thomas to All on Wed Sep 30 2020 01:15 am

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Yes, and it was AWESOME!!!!
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 19:57:30
    Hello Aaron,

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    "What was the question?"

    "Will you shut up, man?" ~Joe Biden

    --Lee

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Gate Keeper on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 20:29:28
    Re: Trump the assasin
    By: Aaron Thomas to All on Wed Sep 30 2020 01:15 am

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Yes, and it was AWESOME!!!!

    And out in the real world we witnessed the supposed leader of the free world endorse white nationalists. You must be so proud.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NICK ANDRE on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 13:21:00
    On 30 Sep 20 01:15, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Not just Biden but Wallace as well.

    I have not seen the whole thing yet but I think I would have used a
    different strategy. I think letting Joe talk more without interrupting him
    and let him get himself in trouble.


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 16:17:10
    On 30 Sep 20 10:18, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Not just Biden but Wallace as well.

    Chris Wallace is cool. I'm sure he helped Trump a little, but Biden did all the work.

    Mehhhhhhhhhh... Wallace is not "cool". He clearly pampered Biden with softball questions and spoke in a way to remind him what to talk about, meanwhile Trump got the usual hardball ones and ended up debating Wallace a few times.

    If there were really were to be a non-partisan debate, at least shut off the microphones of eachother when they go over their limit or interrupt often.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 16:18:39
    On 30 Sep 20 13:21:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

    I have not seen the whole thing yet but I think I would have used a different strategy. I think letting Joe talk more without interrupting him and let him get himself in trouble.

    Biden really stammered often and pulled the usual stare-into-the-camera and "I have a plan" tired political cliche.

    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Joacim Melin on Thursday, October 01, 2020 03:34:55
    Hello Joacim,

    Re: Trump the assasin
    By: Aaron Thomas to All on Wed Sep 30 2020 01:15 am

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Yes, and it was AWESOME!!!!

    And out in the real world we witnessed the supposed leader of the free world
    endorse white nationalists. You must be so proud.

    Proud Boys.

    "Stand back and stand by." ~Donald J. Trump

    Stand back = do not do anything stupid before election day
    Stand by = do your thing when I give you the green light

    Never grown up to become real men.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Thursday, October 01, 2020 03:35:06
    Hello Mike,

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!

    Not just Biden but Wallace as well.

    I have not seen the whole thing yet but I think I would have used a different strategy. I think letting Joe talk more without interrupting him
    and let him get himself in trouble.

    "When? Inshallah?" ~Joe Biden

    Now. Tell me who taught him. His response to Trump was perfect.
    As well as the timing.

    I'll let you ask your Muslim friends what it means.
    Especially since your orange clown did not have a clue.

    And yes, Biden did call Trump a "clown".

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Nick Andre on Thursday, October 01, 2020 03:35:12
    Hello Nick,

    [..]

    If there were really were to be a non-partisan debate, at least shut off the
    microphones of each other when they go over their limit or interrupt often.

    It was not in the rules the candidates agreed to.

    Getting both candidates to change the rules might be a challenge
    for the sponsor. Especially if either or both of the candidates like
    the rules as they are.

    I would like to see a no-holds-barred debate. Let both candidates
    debate each other on their own terms. If they want to use the event
    as a shouting match, then so be it. Whatever floats their boat.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Joacim Melin on Thursday, October 01, 2020 10:28:41
    And out in the real world we witnessed the supposed leader of the free worl endorse white nationalists. You must be so proud.

    He didn't endorse anything.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Thursday, October 01, 2020 11:00:21
    Mehhhhhhhhhh... Wallace is not "cool". He clearly pampered Biden with softb questions and spoke in a way to remind him what to talk about, meanwhile Tr

    If you thought that was bad, the worst of this pampering is yet to come in the next 2 debates.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, October 01, 2020 11:01:16
    Stand back = do not do anything stupid before election day
    Stand by = do your thing when I give you the green light

    Fake news. If this were true, what would you expect white nationalists to
    doon election day? Trump doesn't mastermind riots like Biden, and he doesn't need white nationalists to support him in order to win.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Joacim Melin on Thursday, October 01, 2020 11:34:00
    Joacim Melin wrote to Gate Keeper <=-

    And out in the real world we witnessed the supposed leader of the free world endorse white nationalists. You must be so proud.

    He wasn't endorsing white supremacists, he was giving them MARCHING
    ORDERS.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, October 01, 2020 11:38:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    I would like to see a no-holds-barred debate. Let both candidates
    debate each other on their own terms. If they want to use the event
    as a shouting match, then so be it. Whatever floats their boat.

    I recently re-watched Hamilton. Why not Hunter Biden and Donald Trump
    Jr, across the river in New Jersey, dueling with pistols at dawn over
    the honor of their fathers?



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Friday, October 02, 2020 07:43:32
    Hello Kurt,

    I would like to see a no-holds-barred debate. Let both candidates
    debate each other on their own terms. If they want to use the event
    as a shouting match, then so be it. Whatever floats their boat.

    I recently re-watched Hamilton. Why not Hunter Biden and Donald Trump
    Jr, across the river in New Jersey, dueling with pistols at dawn over
    the honor of their fathers?

    Here is what happened the last time we had a duel of any consequence -

    Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton.
    The war hero vs the nerd.
    Hamilton (the nerd) challenged Burr (the war hero) to a duel.
    Burr allowed Hamilton to have the first shot.
    Hamilton missed.
    Burr shot Hamilton in the balls.
    Hamilton bled to death.
    Burr was charged with murder.
    The jury acquitted Burr.

    If I was a betting man in a duel between Biden and Trump,
    I would put my money on the son of a vice president rather
    than the son of a money man who never pays his taxes.

    --Lee

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, October 02, 2020 12:59:25
    And out in the real world we witnessed the supposed leader of the free wor
    l
    endorse white nationalists. You must be so proud.

    He didn't endorse anything.

    "Proud boys, stand back and stand by"

    And the proud boys sure are standing by. Trump could simply have said "I do not endorse any white nationalists" and be done with it. Instead, he did what he always does when these things comes up - he swayes, dodge the topic and instead try to blame "the left".

    And now he's sick with Covid-19. Karma does suck.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Joacim Melin on Friday, October 02, 2020 10:19:02
    And the proud boys sure are standing by. Trump could simply have said "I d not endorse any white nationalists" and be done with it. Instead, he did wh he always does when these things comes up - he swayes, dodge the topic and instead try to blame "the left".

    Trump can't help it if white supremacists support him. Just like Joe Biden can't help it if Antifa, BLM, or other terror organizations support him.

    It would be bad for business to denounce a group that suppports you, no matter how terrible they are.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOACIM MELIN on Friday, October 02, 2020 18:33:00
    And out in the real world we witnessed the supposed leader of the free worl endorse white nationalists. You must be so proud.

    He mentioned the Proud Boys. They must be very open-minded white
    supremacists considering that one of their leaders is a non-white Cuban-American named Enrique Tarrio who also leads one of the Latinos for
    Trump groups.

    Don't be a dumb-dumb like some leftist Americans and do a little research.
    When you do you might come across a video where he talks about the group
    hating all totalitarianism (facists and communists) and how his
    grandfather fled Cuba after Castro and Che started murdering his family.
    You might also notice that there are other non-white members.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, October 02, 2020 18:24:00
    Fake news. If this were true, what would you expect white nationalists to doon election day? Trump doesn't mastermind riots like Biden, and he doesn't need white nationalists to support him in order to win.

    The Proud Boys are nationalists. Their leader is not "white," he is a Cuban- American. Although that makes him Latino, that probably rules him out of
    being considered "person of color" by most US leftists. Cubans only count if they are famous entertainers who support the Democrats.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Friday, October 02, 2020 18:24:00
    He wasn't endorsing white supremacists, he was giving them MARCHING
    ORDERS.

    The Proud Boys leader is not white.


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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, September 13, 2020 22:41:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Joacim Melin <=-

    And the proud boys sure are standing by. Trump could simply have said "I
    d
    not endorse any white nationalists" and be done with it. Instead, he did
    wh
    he always does when these things comes up - he swayes, dodge the topic and instead try to blame "the left".

    Trump can't help it if white supremacists support him. Just like Joe
    Biden can't help it if Antifa, BLM, or other terror organizations
    support him.

    It would be bad for business to denounce a group that suppports you, no matter how terrible they are.

    What exactly do the Proud Boys do? That's Gavin McInnes' group, yeah?

    I've seen a few of his videos and his Joe Rogan appearance, and he comes accross as a comedian. He
    is funny.

    Are they setting fires to buildings? Are they accosting people in the
    streets and ordering them to raise a fist?
    The didn't have the audicity to walk down a street with tiki torches,
    did they?

    You have an ACTUAL Fascist takeover of your society, and you're worried
    about the Proud Boys? I really must be missing something here.

    Here's the thing. Trump opponents are also insane. The madness is the
    whole way through.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DENNIS KATSONIS on Saturday, October 03, 2020 08:38:00
    What exactly do the Proud Boys do? That's Gavin McInnes' group, yeah?

    If you listen to their leader, a Cuban-American, they oppose facism,
    communism, and totalitarianism as a whole. By their actions, I would say
    they also oppose anarchy and the violent antifa movement.

    Are they setting fires to buildings? Are they accosting people in the streets and ordering them to raise a fist?
    The didn't have the audicity to walk down a street with tiki torches,
    did they?

    No, no, and no. They seem to show up, mostly in the Pacific NW, to oppose antifa gatherings.

    You have an ACTUAL Fascist takeover of your society, and you're worried
    about the Proud Boys? I really must be missing something here.

    Me also. The American Left would rather have antifa show up to destroy
    public and private property rather than have opponents show up that might
    scare them off. Antifa has a right to free speech and, apparently,
    destruction while those who might oppose them do not have any rights.

    Here's the thing. Trump opponents are also insane. The madness is the
    whole way through.

    Indeed.


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  • From Kevin Koch@1:3634/24 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, October 03, 2020 16:26:50
    It was not in the rules the candidates agreed to.

    Getting both candidates to change the rules might be a challenge
    for the sponsor. Especially if either or both of the candidates like
    the rules as they are.

    I would like to see a no-holds-barred debate. Let both candidates
    debate each other on their own terms. If they want to use the event
    as a shouting match, then so be it. Whatever floats their boat.

    --Lee



    Are you saying Trump and Biden were in a wrestling ring?
    In fact. If anyone has Vince McMahon's phone number, please call him
    and have him organize a WWE D.C. Edition. In fact. Anyone running for pres could be in a giant table ladders and chairs match, while we air it on pay
    per view, and offer the rest of the world some great entertainment while
    I make a lot of popcorn sales.

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Sunday, October 04, 2020 11:58:00
    Mike Powell wrote to DENNIS KATSONIS <=-

    What exactly do the Proud Boys do? That's Gavin McInnes' group, yeah?

    If you listen to their leader, a Cuban-American, they oppose facism, communism, and totalitarianism as a whole. By their actions, I would
    say they also oppose anarchy and the violent antifa movement.

    Antifa say they oppose fascism too. Words are cheap. I judge by actions. Do they ACT like a fascist. And in the respect, I'm not 100% sure what the complaint about the Proud Boys is.

    Are they setting fires to buildings? Are they accosting people in the streets and ordering them to raise a fist?
    The didn't have the audicity to walk down a street with tiki torches,
    did they?

    No, no, and no. They seem to show up, mostly in the Pacific NW, to
    oppose antifa gatherings.

    You have an ACTUAL Fascist takeover of your society, and you're worried about the Proud Boys? I really must be missing something here.

    Me also. The American Left would rather have antifa show up to destroy public and private property rather than have opponents show up that
    might scare them off. Antifa has a right to free speech and,
    apparently, destruction while those who might oppose them do not have
    any rights.

    In Australia we see similar. At a rally where the left "counter-rally", the leftists are the ones the initiate the virus. It's telling that the cops face the leftists at these things, because they know where the trouble begins.


    Here's the thing. Trump opponents are also insane. The madness is the
    whole way through.

    Indeed.

    I get why people think Trump is a lousy person. I take a dim view of Real Estate hucksters in general, and he acts in a very unpresidential manner and is a narcissist, that I'm sure of.

    But I can't see where many of these charges levelled against him are coming from. Our own state Premier has been far more eager to clamp down on our freedoms in the most egregious and appaling ways. We are a Police State now, where simply uttering a desire to perhaps challenge the lockdown gets your door smashed in by Police. Britons are arrested for TWEETS and will go to court simply for not being PC. Yet many of the citizens here would say that Trump is the fascist!

    Trump is a flawed person, sure, but I just can't see what he is doing that warrants these claims, and not even his opponents can point to anything specific.


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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to NICK ANDRE on Saturday, October 03, 2020 17:50:00
    On 09-30-20, NICK ANDRE said to AARON THOMAS:

    On 30 Sep 20 01:15, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    Trump murdered Joe Biden in the debate!


    Not just Biden but Wallace as well.


    Amen! Trump ate both their lunches!



    I have to wonder why Fox keeps Wallace around. A `token' leftie maybe?



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kevin Koch on Sunday, October 04, 2020 14:44:57
    Hello Kevin,

    It was not in the rules the candidates agreed to.

    Getting both candidates to change the rules might be a challenge
    for the sponsor. Especially if either or both of the candidates like
    the rules as they are.

    I would like to see a no-holds-barred debate. Let both candidates
    debate each other on their own terms. If they want to use the event
    as a shouting match, then so be it. Whatever floats their boat.


    Are you saying Trump and Biden were in a wrestling ring?
    In fact. If anyone has Vince McMahon's phone number, please call him
    and have him organize a WWE D.C. Edition. In fact. Anyone running for pres
    could be in a giant table ladders and chairs match, while we air it on pay per view, and offer the rest of the world some great entertainment while
    I make a lot of popcorn sales.

    Why not? Used to be presidential candidates would just campaign
    from their front porch. Today it is all a show. Candidates travel
    from place to place, and raise funds for themselves and others.
    Gives the crowd something to cheer for, being able to see their
    favorite candidate live and in person. But other than that ...

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dennis Katsonis on Saturday, October 03, 2020 12:17:11
    It would be bad for business to denounce a group that suppports you, n matter how terrible they are.

    What exactly do the Proud Boys do? That's Gavin McInnes' group, yeah?

    I've never heard of them until a few days ago. I don't know anything about them.

    You have an ACTUAL Fascist takeover of your society, and you're worried about the Proud Boys? I really must be missing something here.

    Not me - I get a lot of messages like this. I'm the conservative Trump supporter. The main idea of what I'm saying is that an election candidate needs to take any supporters he/she can get.

    In other words, Trump can't afford to denounce white supremacist groups, because it could cost votes. I'm not a white supremacist, but if white supremacists are willing to help me elect Trump, I will not refuse that
    type of help from them.

    Just like Joe Biden can't afford to lose votes from the people who he's injected with fear.

    Nobody wants to cancel votes that are (most likely) in their favor.

    I'm realizing now that Chris Wallace isn't as cool as I thought. He was trying to trap President Trump into denouncing a group (proud boys) during the debate or something? Chris should know better. And he should have asked Joe Biden to denounce white supremacy too because he's the real cracker.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Tim Richardson on Saturday, October 03, 2020 21:54:44
    I have to wonder why Fox keeps Wallace around. A `token' leftie maybe?

    That's what Juan Williams is for. I think it's the nerd appeal of Wallace.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DENNIS KATSONIS on Sunday, October 04, 2020 10:31:00
    If you listen to their leader, a Cuban-American, they oppose facism, communism, and totalitarianism as a whole. By their actions, I would say they also oppose anarchy and the violent antifa movement.

    Antifa say they oppose fascism too. Words are cheap. I judge by actions. Do >they ACT like a fascist. And in the respect, I'm not 100% sure what the >complaint about the Proud Boys is.

    Antifa act like fascists, in similar ways to the brownshirts and other like groups that preceeded Musolini and Hitler. The Proud Boys, to my
    knowledge, do no such thing. Aside from they bully the "peaceful" antifa protesters that are setting fires, etc., I don't understand the complaint
    about them, either.

    Here's the thing. Trump opponents are also insane. The madness is the whole way through.
    Indeed.

    I get why people think Trump is a lousy person. I take a dim view of Real >Estate hucksters in general, and he acts in a very unpresidential manner and is
    a narcissist, that I'm sure of.

    I an not certain that acting "unpresidential" is a bad thing. Right now
    they say Trump is not presidential, but they don't really define
    presidential. I would assume it means acting in a more dignified manner,
    like Obama did. However, Biden also does not act dignified so it must be something else.

    I half-take it to be defined as acting like every other politician. I
    don't think Trump acts like a politician in ways which are good. Most of
    our other recent Presidents, and the most recent failed candidate, were all globalists who would do anything to paint Americans as "bad" and to
    undermine our sense or pride and our ability to make/do things ourselves in favor of allowing Europe or China to tell us what to do.

    Trump is a narcissist, I am also sure, just like I am certain that Obama and Bill Clinton both are. Probably Hillary "Basket of Deplorables" Clinton,
    too. I thought W was at the time but now I am not so sure.

    But I can't see where many of these charges levelled against him are coming >from. Our own state Premier has been far more eager to clamp down on our >freedoms in the most egregious and appaling ways. We are a Police State now, >where simply uttering a desire to perhaps challenge the lockdown gets your door
    smashed in by Police. Britons are arrested for TWEETS and will go to court >simply for not being PC. Yet many of the citizens here would say that Trump is
    the fascist!

    Many of ours do also. Here in the US, a popular tactic of the Left is to call anyone who is not on their side a fascist. It is a scare word. Makes the
    less informed think that someone might act like Hitler or some other
    dictator. Fact of the matter is that most dictators over the past 120
    years, excluding 2 or 3 active during WWII, have pretty much all been
    leftist (communists, socialists, leaders of "people's republics"). That is where totalitarianism usually comes from.

    So anyone who believes that hard work is a better answer than free handouts
    is a "fascist." Anyone who wants to exercise their right to free speech without taking into account the feelings of everyone who will read the misquotes on social media is a "fascist." People who won't fall in line
    with being 100% in control of the government are "fascist."

    People who go against the views of globalism and wish that their politicians would put America first are definately "fascists."

    Trump is a flawed person, sure, but I just can't see what he is doing that warrants these claims, and not even his opponents can point to anything specific.

    About the only thing he has in common with fascists is that he is more of a nationalist than a globalist, and he certainly can rally his followers.


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