What was border security like in the 1880s when your family arrived in the US? Were the borders more, or less, open than they are now? How did that affect our national sovereignty? What was the driving force behind the change in border policy? Answer those questions correctly and I think you'll have a much more accurate understanding of "America First."
Illegal immigration is a problem and does neet to be dealt with, but the solution to that problem should not be taken out on legal refugees.
What was border security like in the 1880s when your family arrived in t US? Were the borders more, or less, open than they are now? How did that affect our national sovereignty? What was the driving force behind the c in border policy? Answer those questions correctly and I think you'll ha much more accurate understanding of "America First."Considering that most immigrants were coming across the Atlantic by boat... the boats would arrive and the immigrants would be processed through processing stations like Ellis Island, where the ship master
would present paperwork that was supposed to account for each
immigrating person aboard his ship. They were not all automatically accepted or "set loose" in NYC. Some where quaranteened for observation, others were turned away outright. Having a job already lined up, or relatives already in the country, was a plus.
If someone crosses the southern border now, at a legal crossing point, they go through at least some of the same treatment.
But not all of
them cross at legal crossings, and not all of those that don't get
caught.
Apparently many of the legal ones do not have sponsors or jobs
lined up.
Otherwise, the government would have turned them over to said
sponsors before the local governors got a chance to ask them if they
want to travel to NYC, Chicago, DC, or another proclaimed "sanctuary
city" and put them on a bus.
Illegal immigration is a problem and does neet to be dealt with, but the solution to that problem should not be taken out on legal refugees.Similarly, illegal immigrants should not be lumped in with legal refugees as "refugees." You make a distiction here. Others often do not.
But not all of
them cross at legal crossings, and not all of those that don't get caught.
True. But the refugees who cross seeking asylum generally turn themselves in at the first opportunity. Their situation makes them seek out the authorities rather than avoid them. They are doing things the legal way.
A big part of the anti-refugee propaganda is making them out to be illegal immigrants, which they are not.
Apparently many of the legal ones do not have sponsors or jobs
lined up.
There are organizations that will sponsor them.
Otherwise, the government would have turned them over to said
sponsors before the local governors got a chance to ask them if they want to travel to NYC, Chicago, DC, or another proclaimed "sanctuary city" and put them on a bus.
Organizations that will sponsor them are usually located in larger cities.
I like how you threw "sanctuary city" in there. "Sanctuary cities" are distinguished by their treatment of illegal immigrants, not refugees. You've been brainwashed into thinking that refugees are illegal immigrants, when they are not.
The Border Patrol also makes that distinction, and regularly deports illegal immigrants.
point,If someone crosses the southern border now, at a legal crossing
point,If someone crosses the southern border now, at a legal crossing
For me it is the ease of being able to yell "asylum!" and suddenly be considered legal or potentially legal. If they really wanted asylum,But not all ofTrue. But the refugees who cross seeking asylum generally turn themselve at the first opportunity. Their situation makes them seek out the author rather than avoid them. They are doing things the legal way.
them cross at legal crossings, and not all of those that don't get caught.
A big part of the anti-refugee propaganda is making them out to be illeg immigrants, which they are not.
they should have crossed at a legal checkpoint. If they are not, they
are hoping not to encounter someone, although I am certain they know to act as if they were looking for that encounter all along should it
happen.
Maybe you are that naive.
In past, you told us they had to have sponsors lined up already. WhichApparently many of the legal ones do not have sponsors or jobs lined up.There are organizations that will sponsor them.
is it?
But there are no illegal immigrants that don't get turned away, right?Otherwise, the government would have turned them over to said sponsors before the local governors got a chance to ask them if the want to travel to NYC, Chicago, DC, or another proclaimed "sanctuar city" and put them on a bus.Organizations that will sponsor them are usually located in larger citie I like how you threw "sanctuary city" in there. "Sanctuary cities" are distinguished by their treatment of illegal immigrants, not refugees. Yo been brainwashed into thinking that refugees are illegal immigrants, whe they are not.
The Border Patrol also makes that distinction, and regularly deports ill immigrants.
For me it is the ease of being able to yell "asylum!" and suddenly be considered legal or potentially legal. If they really wanted asylum, they should have crossed at a legal checkpoint. If they are not, they are hoping not to encounter someone, although I am certain they know to act as if they were looking for that encounter all along should it happen.But not all ofTrue. But the refugees who cross seeking asylum generally turn themselv
them cross at legal crossings, and not all of those that don't get
caught.
at the first opportunity. Their situation makes them seek out the autho
rather than avoid them. They are doing things the legal way.
A big part of the anti-refugee propaganda is making them out to be ille
immigrants, which they are not.
Refugees seeking asylum go through a vetting process. Not all are allowed through.
Maybe you are that naive.
Or maybe you are.
In past, you told us they had to have sponsors lined up already. Which is it?Apparently many of the legal ones do not have sponsors or jobs lined up.There are organizations that will sponsor them.
It is a combination of both.
If they don't cross at a legal checkpoint to make sure they encounter authorities to surrender to, they are not refugees. They only claim to
be as part of pretending to turn themselves in when getting caught.
That is not naive.
Not how you used to tell it when arguing with Aaron or Gregory. Thanks for clarifying that.In past, you told us they had to have sponsors lined up already. W is it?Apparently many of the legal ones do not have sponsors or jo lined up.There are organizations that will sponsor them.
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