According to the victim's family, Gibbs had confronted King multiple
times because "[Gibbs] thought [King] was a Democrat."
According to the victim's family, Gibbs had confronted King multiple times because "[Gibbs] thought [King] was a Democrat."Where's the "violent rhetoric by conservatives" to accompany this story?
Rawstory.com is MSN's source for the story. Rawstory.com claims "the victim's son said it was because he thought my dad was a Democrat." However, a motive in a murder isn't determined by "the victim's son."
Other news outlets, like fox19.com, do NOT mention the victim's son's observations, and it even says "It is unknown why the shooting occurred, however, the investigation is ongoing."
Your BS is hereby debunked.
Rawstory.com is MSN's source for the story. Rawstory.com claims "the victim's son said it was because he thought my dad was a Democrat." However, a motive in a murder isn't determined by "the victim's son."
How did you come up with that conclusion? Statements about a murderer's mindset leading up to the murder can absolutely offer insight into the murderer's motive.
Your BS is hereby debunked.
No, it's not. The victim's son did say that, regardless of whether "fox19.com" included it in their reporting or not.
Motive for a murder is usually determined by investigation, and then in a court of law. The son could also have his own motivations, especially since he is the victim's son.Rawstory.com is MSN's source for the story. Rawstory.com claims "th victim's son said it was because he thought my dad was a Democrat." However, a motive in a murder isn't determined by "the victim's sonHow did you come up with that conclusion? Statements about a murderer's mindset leading up to the murder can absolutely offer insight into the murderer's motive.
How did you come up with that conclusion? Statements about a murderer's mindset leading up to the murder can absolutely offer insight into the murderer's motive.
Motive for a murder is usually determined by investigation, and then in a court of law. The son could also have his own motivations, especially since he is the victim's son.
How do you know? Did you hear him say it? Why is it that the only person in the world who "heard him say it" was a lousy news site called "rawstory.com?"Your BS is hereby debunked.No, it's not. The victim's son did say that, regardless of whether "fox19.com" included it in their reporting or not.
How did this story of "racially motivated homicide"
bypass all of the other news outlets? (You know, the news outlets that people have heard of before?)
Just because you have a link to it, doesn't mean that it really happened.
Let's hear the msm talk all this racial stuff that they (on a normal
day) would love to be talking about.
But Jeff said that the victim's son is who ultimately declares the motivation of the crime, not the detectives. I hope they can get this guy's son's opinion on some other crimes that have occurred, because we sure can use his insight.How did you come up with that conclusion? Statements about a murder mindset leading up to the murder can absolutely offer insight into murderer's motive.Motive for a murder is usually determined by investigation, and then court of law. The son could also have his own motivations, especiall since he is the victim's son.
It was reported on by the Butler County Journal-News: https://tinyurl.com/tdrdr65y
It was reported on by the Butler County Journal-News: https://tinyurl.com/tdrdr65yThis is all it says about anything political:
"The family told the dispatcher neighbor had confronted him before about some perceived political affiliation."
I can't find the part where it says "Son of victim graduates from police academy and then declares the murder was politically motivated."
Motive for a murder is usually determined by investigation, and then in aRawstory.com is MSN's source for the story. Rawstory.com claims "tHow did you come up with that conclusion? Statements about a murderer's
victim's son said it was because he thought my dad was a Democrat.
However, a motive in a murder isn't determined by "the victim's so
mindset leading up to the murder can absolutely offer insight into the murderer's motive.
court of law. The son could also have his own motivations, especially since he is the victim's son.
And what is an investigation? Is it, like, talking to witnesses and stuff, to find out what happened and why?
They would likely talk to more than one witness to find out what happened and why, if at all possible.And what is an investigation? Is it, like, talking to witnesses and stuf find out what happened and why?Motive for a murder is usually determined by investigation, and the aRawstory.com is MSN's source for the story. Rawstory.com cla "tHow did you come up with that conclusion? Statements about a murderer's
victim's son said it was because he thought my dad was a Democrat.
However, a motive in a murder isn't determined by "the victi so
mindset leading up to the murder can absolutely offer insight int murderer's motive.
court of law. The son could also have his own motivations, especia since he is the victim's son.
It sounds like they did talk to more than one witness. The victim's son (who did not say what Aaron claims he said) and the victim's wife (who
did say what Aaron claims the victim's son said) were both individually referenced, and there were other statements simply attributed to the victim's family. At least one of those witnesses identified a motive,
and another corroborated a pattern of harassment.
It sounds like they did talk to more than one witness. The victim's s (who did not say what Aaron claims he said) and the victim's wife (wh did say what Aaron claims the victim's son said) were both individual referenced, and there were other statements simply attributed to the victim's family. At least one of those witnesses identified a motive, and another corroborated a pattern of harassment.Let's find out how we can link it to "violent rhetoric" from "Republicans."
But you don't mention that he was (according to Wiki) an alcoholic an drug abuser, diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and was found incompetent to stand trial.
Nevertheless, he was a conservative and he attacked a political target.
It would be interesting if, some day, we recall a sane person making conscious choice to kill or attack people over their liberal politica beliefs.
You mean like the guy that killed his neighbor because he thought he was
a Democrat?
I used to, but then I was told here and by some in the media that cou not happen. Unless the non-conservative posters here and the media w lying back then, I have no choice but to take their word for it.
What Maxine Waters said was that if certain things occurred, Democrats would need to become "more confrontational," meaning more protests, more participation, more lawsuits, etc. "More confrontational" is far less violent rhetoric than comparing Democrats to feral hogs, followed by footage of the politician in a helicopter shooting feral hogs.
It would be ignorant and misleading to say "conservatives are committing political violence," while the truth seems to be that "mentally illBut you don't mention that he was (according to Wiki) an alcohol drug abuser, diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and was foun incompetent to stand trial.Nevertheless, he was a conservative and he attacked a political targe
people are committing political violence."
Doesn't that sound insane to you? To go around shooting people just because they support human smuggling and/or fentanyl importation, that would be insane.It would be interesting if, some day, we recall a sane person ma conscious choice to kill or attack people over their liberal pol beliefs.You mean like the guy that killed his neighbor because he thought he a Democrat?
You're trying to use selective-memory to defend the old bag, but you're only recalling her comments regarding the Derek Chauvin trial. But backI used to, but then I was told here and by some in the media tha not happen. Unless the non-conservative posters here and the me lying back then, I have no choice but to take their word for it.What Maxine Waters said was that if certain things occurred, Democrat would need to become "more confrontational," meaning more protests, m participation, more lawsuits, etc. "More confrontational" is far less violent rhetoric than comparing Democrats to feral hogs, followed by footage of the politician in a helicopter shooting feral hogs.
in 2018 she had this to say:
"If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."
Why? We elected Trump; so why should we treat his cabinet like garbage instead of working with them? If you have a problem with CIA policy, why not contact Gina Haspel's office instead of throwing poop at her while she's having dinner with her family? Why is politically violent rhetoric ok for Maxine but not for Trump?
It would be ignorant and misleading to say "conservatives are committing political violence," while the truth seems to be that "mentally ill people are
committing political violence."
Why? We elected Trump; so why should we treat his cabinet like garbage instead of working with them? If you have a problem with CIA policy, why not contact Gina Haspel's office instead of throwing poop at her while she's having dinner with her family? Why is politically violent rhetoric ok for Maxine but not for Trump?
People have a right to speak their minds. "Tell them they're not welcome" is not violent rhetoric.
Republicans' violent rhetoric normalizes violence against Democrats, Republican supporters attack Democrat supporters (or, in this case, those who they believe to be Democrat supporters).
Republicans' violent rhetoric normalizes violence against Democrats, Republican supporters attack Democrat supporters (or, in this case,
those who they believe to be Democrat supporters).
Republicans' violent rhetoric normalizes violence against Democrats, Republican supporters attack Democrat supporters (or, in this case, thos they believe to be Democrat supporters).
During the Trump years, Maxine Waters and others voiced support for persons attacking Republicans in public. Soon, several persons
During the Trump years, Maxine Waters and others voiced support for persons attacking Republicans in public. Soon, several persons
associated with his White House found themselves the target of threats
and verbal assult in public. Several Republicans were shot at, and some hit, practicing for the Congressional baseball game by a left-wing activist who verified with other attendees that it was indeed the Republican team practicing before later opening fire. Another was
beaten up in his yard at his home, requiring hospitalization.
I seem to remember being told that Maxine and others who ran their mouths in similar manners didn't have anything to do with these attacks.
Waters is still serving in Congress.
Republicans' violent rhetoric normalizes violence against Democrats, Republican supporters attack Democrat supporters (or, in this case, those who they believe to be Democrat supporters).You've got no link from Republican rhetoric to the Ohio murder.
Thanks Mike! I forgot about those events. Yea poor ol Steve Scalise got shot in the hip (by a leftist) along with 4 others. Gabby Giffords too (not sure if that one was at the hands of a left wing activist but probably!)
Gabby Giffords was a Democrat. Her husband, Mark Kelly, was just re-elected as a Democrat Senator for Arizona. Giffords was shot by Jared Lee Loughner at a constituent meeting, and Loughner also killed 6 other people -- One a US District Court Judge and another a 9-year-old child. Loughner's online writings and videos were described as "almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the
populist campaigning of the Tea Party Movement."
During the Trump years, Maxine Waters and others voiced support for persons attacking Republicans in public. Soon, several persons associated with his White House found themselves the target of threats and verbal assult in public. Several Republicans were shot at, and some hit, practicing for the Congressional baseball game by a left-wing activist who verified with other attendees that it was indeed the Republican team practicing before later opening fire. Another was beaten up in his yard at his home, requiring hospitalization.
I seem to remember being told that Maxine and others who ran their mouths
in similar manners didn't have anything to do with these attacks.
Waters is still serving in Congress.
Then you believe it's possible for the words of politicians to incite violence?
Republicans' violent rhetoric normalizes violence against Democrats, Republican supporters attack Democrat supporters (or, in this case, tho
they believe to be Democrat supporters).
During the Trump years, Maxine Waters and others voiced support for persons attacking Republicans in public. Soon, several persons
Thanks Mike! I forgot about those events. Yea poor ol Steve Scalise got shot in the hip (by a leftist) along with 4 others.
Gabby Giffords was a Democrat. Her husband, Mark Kelly, was just re-elected as a Democrat Senator for Arizona. Giffords was shot by Ja Lee Loughner at a constituent meeting, and Loughner also killed 6 oth people -- One a US District Court Judge and another a 9-year-old chil Loughner's online writings and videos were described as "almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the populist campaigning of the Tea Party Movement."But you don't mention that he was (according to Wiki) an alcoholic and drug abuser, diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and was found incompetent to stand trial.
It would be interesting if, some day, we recall a sane person making a conscious choice to kill or attack people over their liberal political beliefs.
Then you believe it's possible for the words of politicians to incite violence?I used to, but then I was told here and by some in the media that could not happen. Unless the non-conservative posters here and the media were lying back then, I have no choice but to take their word for it.
It would be ignorant and misleading to say "conservatives are committ political violence," while the truth seems to be that "mentally ill people are committing political violence."
Would it be reasonable to conclude that mentally-ill conservatives are committing political violence?
Ooh, "tell them they're not welcome." That sounds sooo violent.
People have a right to speak their minds. "Tell them they're not
welcome" is not violent rhetoric.
Same thing with the Muslim attacks in the southwest. When it was initially thought to be a "conservative" attacking them, it was all over the news. Once it was found out to be a fellow Muslim, and that the victims were not so random, it faded away.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Jeff Thiele <=-
It would be ignorant and misleading to say "conservatives are
committing political violence," while the truth seems to be that
"mentally ill people are committing political violence."
Republicans should have a "campaign" against fake news and propaganda, but they have no ambition. I doubt that a single person at any RNC office has accepted the reality that we need to improve our media infrastructure; they just keep going with the faulty logic of "Democrats do bad stuff so votersil
vote for us." That, and they continue to only try to appeal to their ownase;
it's time to be a bit liberal on some issues to steal some moderates, and to stick it to the media.
vote for us." That, and they continue to only try to appeal to their ownase;
it's time to be a bit liberal on some issues to steal some moderates, an stick it to the media.
The people who are targets of that "fake news" are not going to believe the reality when it is told to them, and vice-versa.
committIt would be ignorant and misleading to say "conservatives are
illpolitical violence," while the truth seems to be that "mentally
people are committing political violence."
Would it be reasonable to conclude that mentally-ill conservativesare
committing political violence?
Yes, I agree with that conclusion.
Yes, Donald J. Trump is nuts. Even his niece, Mary Trump (a clinical psychologist) recognizes that. She even wrote a book about it.
Yes, Donald J. Trump is nuts. Even his niece, Mary Trump (a clinical
psychologist) recognizes that. She even wrote a book about it.
I have nieces. They don't know jack about me. They can write a book about me
if they want, but it won't be very accurate.
if they want, but it won't be very accurate.
That may be. But Donald Trump's niece is different, as she has
a certificate to prove it. And that makes Donald Trump certifiably
nuts.
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