• Landing a plane

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, December 27, 2022 12:47:24
    Dale Shipp -> BjRn Felten skrev 2022-12-27 00:50:
    I'm curious as to why you say that?

    It's of course totally OK not knowing anything about flying, but it's not OK to come with a stupid suggestion about "alarm bells" about only learning to take off and fly a plane and not learning how to land it. It's like only learning do drive a car but not how to park it.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Sunday, January 01, 2023 17:23:00
    Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back with a valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.

    In a word "Passports"

    But, but, but immigrants shouldn't need any paperwork, or IDs!!! <sarcasm>

    After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, when it was discovered that a participant in the plot had been a student who had overstayed his visa,

    Pretty sure that is the guy I was working with, who was a student at the
    local university and who left c1990.

    The program stalled. Senators declared an interest in repealing the 1996
    law and sought to obstruct further INS funding for it. Thus, when Atta and al Shehhi lied when questioned about their student status on their reentries in January 2001, and when Hanjour failed to show up for the school for which he was issued a visa in December 2000, a student tracking system was far from available to immigration inspectors or agents."

    Knowing he was on a visa, someone at the school should have questioned why Hanjour didn't show up. Going back to the member of the 1993 group that I worked with, my job was at said University. Before they even realized he
    used to be a student, their reaction to the 1993 incident was more tolerance training for students and staff. Even though we had some incidents on
    campus a couple of years before that involved a Salmon Rushde book, The Satanic Verse, being available at the library, there was no training on safety or identifying potential threats.

    I was not involved in personnel or student registration, so I have no idea
    for sure but, based on the reaction I was a part of, I somehow doubt they
    also tightened any reporting requirements (if they had any!) in regards to employees/students who hire-on/enroll with visas but never, or stop, showing up.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 02, 2023 14:15:21
    Hello Mike,

    Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back with
    a
    valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.

    In a word "Passports"

    But, but, but immigrants shouldn't need any paperwork, or IDs!!! <sarcasm>

    Timothy McVeigh did not need a passport to do what he did.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 02, 2023 18:11:35
    On 01 Jan 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

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    Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back wi valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the fac

    I was not involved in personnel or student registration, so I have no
    idea for sure but, based on the reaction I was a part of, I somehow
    doubt they also tightened any reporting requirements (if they had any!)
    in regards to employees/students who hire-on/enroll with visas but
    never, or stop, showing up.
    yeah that is scary stuff, I love how some people view this type of attention
    as racial profiling or at the very least view this as unnecessary scrutiny
    and disallow for any common sense.

    Then there are the thinkers who know that something is not quite right and provide pause as they think things through. There is nothing with being vigilant, WE need not be labeled with derogatory names from the left or described w/ fancy five dollar words from a liberal.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 16:26:00
    I was not involved in personnel or student registration, so I have no idea for sure but, based on the reaction I was a part of, I somehow doubt they also tightened any reporting requirements (if they had any!) in regards to employees/students who hire-on/enroll with visas but never, or stop, showing up.
    yeah that is scary stuff, I love how some people view this type of attention as racial profiling or at the very least view this as unnecessary scrutiny and disallow for any common sense.

    To me it should be questioned no matter what their country of origin is.

    Then there are the thinkers who know that something is not quite right and provide pause as they think things through. There is nothing with being vigilant, WE need not be labeled with derogatory names from the left or described w/ fancy five dollar words from a liberal.

    It could just as easily mean something bad happened TO them as it would
    that they were UP TO something bad. But it sounds like vigilance, or
    concern, or whatever you want to call it often doesn't play into decision making at places of higher learning (or in Congress!).


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