That is true. None of us really know yet exactly how the classified documents were brought to Biden, nor why, and even whether or not Biden ever saw them. We need to wait for the special counsel to determine
those things.
On 01-20-23 06:12, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Joe's Docs -- AKA the GOP <=-
How in Heaven's Name can this compare to what Trump has
done? Trump even, in his panic, has posted admissions that
any prosecutor (not bought by the MAGA cult) can use as
evidence against him!
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY! Not even Hitler or
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance? And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
idenDid Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance? And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
There is nothing similar between what Donald Trump has done and what Joe
as done.
Donald Trump is a criminal. Joe Biden is a president.
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
So that's the reason? You actually believe that lie, without even trying to look up the fact?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY! Not even Hitler or Stalin or any other megalomaniacs in the world did. Jeezzz, man, what crazy MAGA fascist world are you living in?
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
He had the authority, but he did not do it. If he had done so, then
they would have been marked as declassified and the original classification crossed out. Even so, he still did not have authority to keep them -- they belonged to the US Government.
Worse yet, additional documents were found after the first ones were
discovered.
Then Biden comes out and says he has "no regrets" about the matter.
Joe Biden is a certifiable imbecile...
Biden asked DOJ to come to his house and search. I would say that classifies as cooperating.
Compare that to Trump's actions where he certified that no classified documents still existed in his possession.
He knew that was a lie, and it took a warrant for the FBI to come and find them.
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or
refuse to answer questions?
Trump was asked to return many of those documents but he never did. Instead
he had his layer sign a declaration that all these documents had been returned when in fact they had not.
Donald Trump is a liar, has always been a liar, and will always be a liar.
I think the DOJ/FBI are still looking for missing documents.
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance?
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the
documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
There is nothing similar between what Donald Trump has done and what Joe Biden has done.
Donald Trump is a criminal. Joe Biden is a president.
How in Heaven's Name can this compare to what Trump has done? Trump
even, in
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
Biden as VP did not have any such authority, nor could he of obtained any such permissions as VP to declassify documents.
Worse yet, additional documents were found after the first ones were discovered.
Then Biden comes out and says he has "no regrets" about the matter.
Joe Biden is a certifiable imbecile...
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President GD>at will.
So that's the reason?
You actually believe that lie, without even trying to look up the fact?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY!
Not even Hitler or Stalin or any other megalomaniacs in the world did.
Jeezzz, man, what crazy MAGA fascist world are you living in?
Biden asked DOJ to come to his house and search. I would say that classifies as cooperating.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents, allegedly first discovered days before the midterm election, only NOW? When you put thentire
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
There was no arrest. Trump claimed that he had no classified documents even though he knew that he did. That is not cooperating.
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
More like, "now that my people found the documents, I'm going to
cooperate with you".
On 01-22-23 17:53, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
On 22 Jan 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...
Biden asked DOJ to come to his house and search. I would say that classifies as cooperating.
Oh stop it, Biden did no such thing.
1. I doubt very highly Biden even remembers where he used to live.
2. Why would he call about documents that he didn't know were missing.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents, allegedly
first discovered days before the midterm election, only NOW? When you
put the entire story up on a timeline, it reveals something deeper, bigger, and more nefarious. It tells you a story the mainstream media
and the White House DON'T want you to know and opens up new questions
of corruption, cover-up, and potential election interference.
Obama also took 30 Million documents back to Chicago too, it just
seems there is a political double-standard when it comes to Donald
Trump because peoples feelings have been hurt or shocked with the blunt manner how Trump has talked.
Compared to Biden who has put in his mouth many times and has produced more Presidential gaffes then all of the previous Presidents combined.
To spite this geriatric fool, I ask you what has Biden accomplished?
There was no need for the raid at Mar a lago, when Donald Trump was working with the office for document retrieval.
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Your response is so full of mis-information, slander and conspiracy speculations that it is not worth any comment.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents, allegedly first discovered days before the midterm election, only NOW? When you put the
Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
Biden didn't lead authorities. Biden's lawyers apparently came across
the original stash at the think tank. Not 100% sure who then came
across the stash at the house but it was not the authorities.
Initially, "the authorities" decided to stay out of it and trust that Biden's lawyers will find and turn them all over. Now apparently
Biden's team has request that the authorities come in and search. That
is smart on their part, especially since Joe acting like there were no more could have lead to a lot of trouble.
Dale Shipp -> Mike Powell skrev 2023-01-16 23:57:
That is true. None of us really know yet exactly how the classified documents were brought to Biden, nor why, and even whether or not Bid ever saw them. We need to wait for the special counsel to determine those things.
You seem to be the only sane person remaining here (after Jeff and
Rebecca left), so let me ask you the question that the rest of the world(?) is having:
How in Heaven's Name can this compare to what Trump has done? Trump
even, in
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
any prosecutor (not bought by the MAGA cult) can use as
evidence against him!
I have seen many pundits listing a comparison of the two cases. One distinction is that the Biden team is cooperationg with the Archives and DOJ, whereas Trump did not.
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance?
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
On 01-21-23 12:29, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Bj”rn Felten about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA the <=-
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
Worse yet, additional documents were found after the first ones were discovered.
Then Biden comes out and says he has "no regrets" about the matter.
Joe Biden is a certifiable imbecile...
On 01-21-23 16:22, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
I have seen many pundits listing a comparison of the two cases. One distinction is that the Biden team is cooperationg with the Archives and DOJ, whereas Trump did not.
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance?
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
On 01-22-23 02:14, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Joe's Docs -- AKA the GOP <=-
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
So that's the reason? You actually believe that lie,
without even trying to look up the fact?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY! Not even
Hitler or Stalin or any other megalomaniacs in the world
did. Jeezzz, man, what crazy MAGA fascist world are you
living in?
Hmm, but the FBI (according to Fox News) found more documents at Biden's home yesterday. The other problem with this "Biden cooperates" statement is that Biden is the only person in that household who ever had access to classified documents from the National Archives, and he's playing dumb about it all. By moving national secrets from a National Arhcives facility to his beach house, that's not how cooperation with the American people works.
It's smart on the part of the lawyers, but it's not smart on the part of the the authorities to "trust lawyers" to search for documents that they (lawyers) have no authority to view.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents,
allegedly first discovered days before the midterm election, only
NOW? When you put the
Did you notice that the Biden Document Mishandling came out shortly
after the Twitter Document drops finished?
Nothing like a scandal to distract away from a major illegal action by
the Democrats.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
Your response is so full of mis-information, slander and conspiracy speculations that it is not worth any comment.
The fact that STILL more documents were found yesterday..
Is that worthy of commenting on?
Remember that to people like Dale, right = left, good = evil, etc.
So "mis-information" = "truth".
On 01-22-23 16:59, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
There was no arrest. Trump claimed that he had no classified documents even though he knew that he did. That is not cooperating.
If there was no arrest, then how do we know that he did anything
wrong?
Hmm, but the FBI (according to Fox News) found more documents at
Biden's home yesterday. The other problem with this "Biden cooperates"
statement is that Biden is the only person in that household who ever
had access to classified documents from the National Archives, and he's playing dumb about it all. By moving national secrets from a National Arhcives facility to his beach house, that's not how cooperation with
the American people works.
On 01-23-23 06:43, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
On 23 Jan 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...
Your response is so full of mis-information, slander and conspiracy speculations that it is not worth any comment.
The fact that STILL more documents were found yesterday..
Is that worthy of commenting on?
Why would he call about documents that he didn't know were missing
On 01-23-23 18:06, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Ron L. about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
I think he could of been more annoyed when I provided the response to
his comment to where Biden allegedly telling the search team w/ where
to look within his home. Than I came back with "Biden does not
remember where home is."
or it could've of been my comment that Obama took 30+
million documents back to
Chicago.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dr. What <=-
Joe's Memory has been an issue from the very start.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
It's smart on the part of the lawyers, but it's not smart on the part
of the the authorities to "trust lawyers" to search for documents that they (lawyers) have no authority to view.
Mike Miller wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
I could think of a hundred other things that would pull attention away from the "twitter documents" that didn't politically damage Biden. the DNC is stupid, but it's not that stupid.
MSNBC (???!!!) had some fun with one of Biden's spokespersons recently. Apparently the spokesperson said they were cooperating with the DOJ to determine how the documents came to be in the Biden house. The interviewer pointed out that Biden himself would have been the only one that might have had clearance, so shouldn't the DOJ be asking Joe
instead of Joe's team waiting for the DOJ to determine how they got
there?
You are confused. No one moved documents from a National Archives facility. The documents that were discovered had been moved from
various offices previously occupied by Biden. It has not been said who actually moved them.
Why not wait until the SC does his investigation and announces his findings, rather than casting stones when you don't know the facts.
When cops find drugs at a drug dealer's house, they don't do an investigation into who brought the drugs to the house; they just blame
and arrest whoever's home at the time of the raid.
There shouldn't be a double standard for segregationists.
It's smart on the part of the lawyers, but it's not smart on the part of the the authorities to "trust lawyers" to search for documents tha they (lawyers) have no authority to view.
Wait a sec... Do these lawyers have Classified clearance? If they are purposely looking for classified documents, they might be committing crime.
When cops find drugs at a drug dealer's house, they don't do an investigation into who brought the drugs to the house; they just blame and arrest whoever's home at the time of the raid.
Why would he call about documents that he didn't know were missing
I have no idea what you are talking about.
There shouldn't be a double standard for segregationists.
Who are these segregationists you speak of?
When cops find drugs at a drug dealer's house, they don't do an investig into who brought the drugs to the house; they just blame and arrest whoe home at the time of the raid.
They are probably playing "we don't know how they got there" so they can, in turn, eventually blame "the Russians" for planting the documents in Biden's garage.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
The DOJ should cut through all the BS & just ask Joe who he was
planning to sell the information to. But straight-forwardedness is too much to expect.
or it could've of been my comment that Obama took 30+
million documents back to
Chicago.
What sort of documents? If you are claiming that they were
classified, then you are scooping all of the media -- except that
would be alternative facts.
arrest orWhat do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist
refuse to answer questions?
There was no arrest. Trump claimed that he had no classifieddocuments
even though he knew that he did. That is not cooperating.
If there was no arrest, then how do we know that he did anything wrong?
theAnd then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found
documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
More like, "now that my people found the documents, I'm going to
cooperate with you".
Hmm, but the FBI (according to Fox News) found more documents at Biden's home yesterday.
The other problem with this "Biden cooperates" statement is that
Biden is the only person in that household who ever had access to classified
documents from the National Archives, and he's playing dumb about it all.
By moving national secrets from a National Arhcives facility to his beach house, that's not how cooperation with the American people works.
Earlier today Dan Bongino said something along the lines of "while investigators were searching for clues in the Trump-Russia probe, they inadvertantly discovered information tying Joe and Hunter to an influence peddling scheme, and that this may have something to do with the document shenanigans.
I hope I understood that correctly, but I might not have. (It was AM radio.)
The DOJ should cut through all the BS & just ask Joe who he was planning to sell the information to. But straight-forwardedness is to much to expect.
But asking Joe anything, and expecting an honest and coherent answer, it simply not possible.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
I was definitely wrong to say "Ask Joe," and in reality, the DOJ
already knows about Joe's influence peddling.
Only congress can help us
now, but I just hope they hurry up. The house can flip again next year, and time is ticking.
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