Hello Aaron!

22 Jan 23 03:07, you wrote to all:

Dale and a few news headlines have been talking about "Biden's cooperation," however, today (according to Fox News) the FBI found
more classified docs at Biden's home.

Wouldn't it be more "cooperative" for Joe to come clean and give up
all the documents instead of having the police keep finding more &
more of them?

If police found a dead body in a serial killer's garage, and another
body in his office, is he "cooperating with police" by failing to
disclose the locations of 10 more bodies?

Let's think about that next time Anderson Cooper is telling us "How helpful Joe is being towards this investigation."

Biden's cooperating. Trump didn't cooperate. Those are facts.

That said, An investigation into it is important, It should be allowed to run its course, and if the investigation finds that laws were broken, consequences should be had.

Just like an investigation into Trump's mishandling of classified documents is also imporant and should be conducted. Same treatment for similar issues.





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Let's think about that next time Anderson Cooper is telling us "How helpful Joe is being towards this investigation."

Wait a sec...

People actually watch CNN?

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Wouldn't it be more "cooperative" for Joe to come clean and give up all the documents instead of having the police keep finding more & more of them?

You'd think so. The definition of "cooperation" is going to be different
now that it is Biden, rather than Trump, whose actions are being judged.

Over the weekend here, Biden's team has started being more cooperative.
They have asked the authorities to come and search for more documents.
Trump had a search warrant executed, so that would make it look like Biden
is being more cooperative.

However, the claim that Biden was being more "cooperative" was being made before the request for the authorities to come search. They were being
made while Biden was evading questions from the press, using pre-prepared evasive answers when he answered at all.

I would say he is cooperating now, but the belief that the definition of "cooperation" has suddenly become more flexible still stands.

If police found a dead body in a serial killer's garage, and another body in his office, is he "cooperating with police" by failing to disclose the locations of 10 more bodies?

If he is senile and doesn't remember, they might go easier on the serial killer. If they know that Joe is also senile...


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That said, An investigation into it is important, It should be allowed to

un

ts course, and if the investigation finds that laws were broken, consequences ould be had.

Just like an investigation into Trump's mishandling of classified documents

also imporant and should be conducted. Same treatment for similar issues.

+1. The issues are similar and should both be treated as such.


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Dale and a few news headlines have been talking about "Biden's cooperation," however, today (according to Fox News) the FBI found mo classified docs at Biden's home.

How about including the fact that Biden asked the DOJ to do that search? Or did Fox News forget to mention that?

Have you ever seen a (horrible) movie called Saw? A maniac kidnaps and bounds victims, and then he hides clues around a dungeon for them to find. If they find the right clues, they survive, and if not, they die.

I hate movies, but this movie's plot is synonymous with Biden gathering classified documents, sharing them with who knows who, and then giving investigators tips like "there might be more at my beach house.... but I have no regrets."

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Let's think about that next time Anderson Cooper is telling us "How helpful Joe is being towards this investigation."

Biden's cooperating. Trump didn't cooperate. Those are facts.

Trump cooperated to my satisfaction. Had he ignored a search warrant, fought with police, or intentionally hid evidence, then that would be what I'd call "uncooperative." And if Trump had a history of abusing power like Biden does, then I'd be concerned about his intentions with those documents.

Biden isn't cooperating to my satisfaction, because while he's still the president, he has failed to tell the American people what his intentions were with those documents. I'm afriad you and the other globalists are letting him off the hook way too easily.

He also hasn't apologized and said that he has "no regrets" about treating SCI documents like they're junk mail.

If the governor of Wisconsin endangers the lives of millions of people, but he "cooperates with investigators," then does he still get to keep his job?

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Let's think about that next time Anderson Cooper is telling us "How helpful Joe is being towards this investigation."

Wait a sec...

People actually watch CNN?

For some reason, these people who parrot the media defend all-things-leftist.
I think Fox News is some kind of science experiment for the leftists, so they can figure out what routes the conservative thinkers will take.

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I would say he is cooperating now, but the belief that the definition of "cooperation" has suddenly become more flexible still stands.

Absolutely. These guys have impractical definitions of many words. I think I heard a bird singing "Biden's cooperating" the other day and it sounded
catchy! ;)

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Dale and a few news headlines have been talking about "Biden's cooperation," however, today (according to Fox News) the FBI found more classified docs at Biden's home.

Wouldn't it be more "cooperative" for Joe to come clean and give up all the documents instead of having the police keep finding more & more of them?

If police found a dead body in a serial killer's garage, and another body in his office, is he "cooperating with police" by failing to disclose the locations of 10 more bodies?

Let's think about that next time Anderson Cooper is telling us "How helpful
Joe is being towards this investigation."

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On 01-22-23 03:07, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to All about Mishandling Docs <=-

Dale and a few news headlines have been talking about "Biden's cooperation," however, today (according to Fox News) the FBI found more classified docs at Biden's home.

How about including the fact that Biden asked the DOJ to do that search?
Or did Fox News forget to mention that?

Dale Shipp
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Hello Aaron!

22 Jan 23 17:09, you wrote to me:

Let's think about that next time Anderson Cooper is telling

us "How

helpful Joe is being towards this investigation."

Biden's cooperating. Trump didn't cooperate. Those are facts.

Trump cooperated to my satisfaction. Had he ignored a search warrant, fought with police, or intentionally hid evidence, then that would be
what I'd call "uncooperative." And if Trump had a history of abusing
power like Biden does, then I'd be concerned about his intentions with those documents.

Biden isn't cooperating to my satisfaction, because while he's still
the president, he has failed to tell the American people what his intentions were with those documents. I'm afriad you and the other globalists are letting him off the hook way too easily.

He also hasn't apologized and said that he has "no regrets" about
treating SCI documents like they're junk mail.

If the governor of Wisconsin endangers the lives of millions of
people, but he "cooperates with investigators," then does he still get
to keep his job?

Holy shit, how do you manage to type out that much hypocrisy, and think to yourself "Yes, that's perfectly fair" before you hit send?



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On 01-22-23 17:09, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Mike Miller about Re: Mishandling Docs <=-

Biden's cooperating. Trump didn't cooperate. Those are facts.

Trump cooperated to my satisfaction. Had he ignored a search warrant, fought with police, or intentionally hid evidence, then that would be
what I'd call "uncooperative."

No one can ignore a search warrant. He did partially ignore a supena
and turned over only part of the documents, thus intentionally hiding
evidence. That is what I call uncooperative.

And if Trump had a history of abusing power

He does have such a history.

like Biden does,

When and how has Biden abused power?

then I'd be concerned about his intentions with those documents.

As you should be concerned about Trump's intentions.

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For some reason, these people who parrot the media defend all-things-leftist. I think Fox News is some kind of science experiment

Hence the YouTube channel of "Liberal Hivemind". It's hard for me to understand people who can't think for themselves. But it does make it easy
to know how they will respond to things.

all-things-leftist. I think Fox News is some kind of science experiment for the leftists, so they can figure out what routes the conservative thinkers will take.

Fox News has shown that it's a fake "conservative" news source. It's just there for the Ignorant Elitists to be able to say "look, there are non-left news sources". It's just as corrupt as the rest of the Propaganda Ministry ...er... MSM.

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If the governor of Wisconsin endangers the lives of millions of people, but he "cooperates with investigators," then does he still ge to keep his job?

Holy shit, how do you manage to type out that much hypocrisy, and think to yourself "Yes, that's perfectly fair" before you hit send?

Thank you! Now I realize that it's impolite to incinerate leftist narratives.

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And if Trump had a history of abusing power

He does have such a history.

like Biden does,

When and how has Biden abused power?

In 2016 when he demanded that Zelenski fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin due to
his plan of prosecuting Hunter Biden. That's one example, but there are more.

then I'd be concerned about his intentions with those documents.

As you should be concerned about Trump's intentions.

I don't see any evil in Trump. He never took money from a guy, and then ripped open the border to repay the favor, for example. If Trump did stuff like that, then I wouldn't trust him either.

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Hence the YouTube channel of "Liberal Hivemind". It's hard for me to

Thanks for that reference. I just watched their most recent video just now (about those "peaceful: protests in Atlanta.)

Fox News has shown that it's a fake "conservative" news source. It's
just there for the Ignorant Elitists to be able to say "look, there are non-left news sources". It's just as corrupt as the rest of the Propaganda Ministry ...er... MSM.

Yea that's what I mean. They try to do the thinking for the conservatives. The reporters at Fox use body language just like the scum at CNN; they're not just relaying information to us; they're trying to program us.

It might seem like the CNN viewer and the FOX News viewer came from different planets, but in the end, we'll both be playing roles that serve the same globalist agenda.

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Hello Aaron,

I don't see any evil in Trump. He never took money from a guy, and
then ripped open the border to repay the favor, for example. If Trump
did stuff like that, then I wouldn't trust him either.

So many people lost money because of Trump.

Many builders were lucky to get $0.10 on the dollar of their cost to build his buildings. Trump just stiffed them because that's the way he does business.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 01-24-23 12:41, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Mishandling Docs <=-

When and how has Biden abused power?

In 2016 when he demanded that Zelenski fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin
due to his plan of prosecuting Hunter Biden. That's one example, but
there are more.

That old chestnut has been debunked before. Biden did not do that
unilaterally -- it was a joint decision of people higher than him. He
was the messenger. Your pulling in Hunter is just smokescreen and a dog whistle.

then I'd be concerned about his intentions with those documents.

As you should be concerned about Trump's intentions.

I don't see any evil in Trump. He never took money from a guy, and
then ripped open the border to repay the favor, for example. If Trump
did stuff like that, then I wouldn't trust him either.

Trump was well known to take money and then fail to deliver, or to
receive service and then fail to pay. I classify that as evil.

What are you referring to with your second sentence?

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I don't see any evil in Trump. He never took money from a guy, and then ripped open the border to repay the favor, for example. If Trump did stuff like that, then I wouldn't trust him either.

So many people lost money because of Trump.

Many builders were lucky to get $0.10 on the dollar of their cost to
build his buildings. Trump just stiffed them because that's the way he does business.

I won't defend everything Trump did before becoming president, but none of the accusations against him (as president) ever materialized; they were all just slander. Notice how he's not in jail yet.

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Hello Aaron,

I won't defend everything Trump did before becoming president, but
none of the accusations against him (as president) ever materialized;
they were all just slander. Notice how he's not in jail yet.

Good point. He's not in jail yet. The Trump organization CFO is.

Ttyl :-),
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On 25 Jan 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

Good point. He's not in jail yet. The Trump organization CFO is.

Trump's CFO is in jail for something he did personally and not something he did for the organization... They might not have even caught it had his ex-wife not called to tell them where to find the bodies. The CFO would not be in jail right now if he were a democrat or he worked for a left leaning company. If he were he would have been told to pay the back taxes owed and they would have moved on.

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In 2016 when he demanded that Zelenski fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin due to his plan of prosecuting Hunter Biden. That's one example, but there are more.

That old chestnut has been debunked before. Biden did not do that unilaterally -- it was a joint decision of people higher than him. He
was the messenger. Your pulling in Hunter is just smokescreen and a dog whistle.

You sound like Biden when you say "it's been debunked." He's on audio bragging about the whole ordeal. What do you mean by "debunked" in this case?

Trump was well known to take money and then fail to deliver, or to
receive service and then fail to pay. I classify that as evil.

Ok but what evil stuff did he do with all the power of being president?

I don't see any evil in Trump. He never took money from a guy, and then ripped open the border to repay the favor, for example. If Trump did stuff like that, then I wouldn't trust him either.

I wouldn't trust Trump had he used his power as president to sell his influence.

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Hello Aaron,

Dale and a few news headlines have been talking about "Biden's
cooperation," however, today (according to Fox News) the FBI

found mo

classified docs at Biden's home.

How about including the fact that Biden asked the DOJ to do that

search?

Or did Fox News forget to mention that?

Have you ever seen a (horrible) movie called Saw? A maniac kidnaps and bounds
victims, and then he hides clues around a dungeon for them to find. If they
find the right clues, they survive, and if not, they die.

The sequels were even better than the original.

I hate movies, but this movie's plot is synonymous with Biden gathering classified documents, sharing them with who knows who, and then giving investigators tips like "there might be more at my beach house.... but I have no regrets."

A search warrant had to be issued in order to get classified
documents held at Trump's estate, after Trump had repeatedly refused
to return them. Biden asked the DOJ to conduct a search and retrieve
all documents found. Pence's lawyer turned over classified documents
to the FBI after classified documents had been found at his home.

Nobody has been charged with a crime. And nobody knows how many other presidents, former presidents, vice presidents, former vice presidents, senators, representatives, etc., have or have had classified documents
at their homes and other locations.

There simply are no rules in place. Or any oversight by Congress.
So what gives? Are presidents and other politicians free to come and
go with classified documents whenever they want, with or without
anybody else knowing?

For Life,
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Hello Alan,

I don't see any evil in Trump. He never took money from a guy, and
then ripped open the border to repay the favor, for example. If Trump
did stuff like that, then I wouldn't trust him either.

So many people lost money because of Trump.

How many times did he file for bankruptcy?

Many builders were lucky to get $0.10 on the dollar of their cost to build his buildings. Trump just stiffed them because that's the way he does business.

People fail to realize what a lousy businessman he was. Depite his
many claims to be fabulously wealthy, his own income tax returns show
a far different story.

For Life,
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Hello Aaron,

[..]

Many builders were lucky to get $0.10 on the dollar of their cost to
build his buildings. Trump just stiffed them because that's the way he
does business.

I won't defend everything Trump did before becoming president, but none of the accusations against him (as president) ever materialized; they were all
just slander. Notice how he's not in jail yet.

Trump is a grifter. Always has been. Before, during, and after his
one-term tenure as president. He will be indicted, in Georgia, on state charges. And no president (including himself) will be able to pardon
him. If convicted, he could be looking at serious time in prison.

He is also likely to be indicted, in New York, on state charges,
but on civil charges rather than criminal, so would not face any time
in prison if convicted.

For Life,
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In 2016 when he demanded that Zelenski fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin
due to his plan of prosecuting Hunter Biden. That's one example, but there are more.

That old chestnut has been debunked before. Biden did not do that unilaterally -- it was a joint decision of people higher than him. He
was the messenger. Your pulling in Hunter is just smokescreen and a dog whistle.

Biden bragged about it being him that did it. So, either Joe is telling the truth, or the debunking is correct which makes Joe a liar.

Speaking of Joe lying, the local news this morning played a clip of Joe claiming there were no more documents, and then pointed out that
authorities had found another stash after that statement, and are now considering searching another Biden residential property.


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That old chestnut has been debunked before. Biden did not do that unilaterally -- it was a joint decision of people higher than him. He was the messenger. Your pulling in Hunter is just smokescreen and a dog whistle.

You sound like Biden when you say "it's been debunked." He's on audio

ragging

about the whole ordeal. What do you mean by "debunked" in this case?

Maybe Obama, who could not run for office again, said it was really him
that decided it so that it wouldn't tarnish Joe's run. That would be the
only person I can think of that would have been "higher" than VP Biden.


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IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Trump's CFO is in jail for something he did personally and not
something he did for the organization... They might not have even
caught it had his ex-wife not called to tell them where to find the bodies. The CFO would not be in jail right now if he were a democrat
or he worked for a left leaning company. If he were he would have been told to pay the back taxes owed and they would have moved on.

There you go. Ruining a good Narrative with facts. 8)


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

You sound like Biden when you say "it's been debunked." He's on audio bragging about the whole ordeal. What do you mean by "debunked" in this case?

To the Ignorant Elitists "debunked" means that they want you to ignore the facts and just accept their assertion that it's not true.

Ok but what evil stuff did he do with all the power of being president?

Oh, man! Let the TDS flow hard and fast.

I wouldn't trust Trump had he used his power as president to sell his influence.

You mean like Joe (and others) did and do.

Why does "Atlas Shrugged" seem more and more true every day?


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Hello Ron,

Trump's CFO is in jail for something he did personally and not
something he did for the organization... They might not have even
caught it had his ex-wife not called to tell them where to find
the bodies. The CFO would not be in jail right now if he were a
democrat or he worked for a left leaning company. If he were he
would have been told to pay the back taxes owed and they would
have moved on.

There you go. Ruining a good Narrative with facts. 8)

Facts? ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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