• Re: Real Issues

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 23:36:40
    On 25 Jan 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Trump is the guy who has never fully cooperated -
    with anybody - and refuses to tell the truth.

    This might come as a shock just because you lefties say things like this..
    It doesn't make it remotely true. Trump was not only cooperating he was actively working with the office and returning documents, many he declassified and Yes, he had the authority to do that, all Presidents have this Presidential Authority and Executive Privilege.

    So why the raid at Mar-a-logo, it was clearly a political hit, perhaps it helped to clear to some extent to that tinge of pain in the throats of these losers who lost repeatedly to Trump when he was President.

    I think there are much bigger issues for discussion, like why in the hell is a dozen of eggs eight dollars+, bacon astronomical too, in fact food prices generally speaking are way way up. Food costs were never this high when Donald Trump was President. Before you ask if I could do better then Biden, the answer is a H-U-G-E YES. I would do more in one day then Joe Biden has attempted to do in the last six months. It would start with real fair & equal trade or there would be no deal. All U.S. Military personal being held in a foreign land would return to the U.S. (long before I would make a deal for a POS female basketball player) This, I can guarantee you.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, January 27, 2023 19:51:30
    Hello Greg,

    Trump is the guy who has never fully cooperated -
    with anybody - and refuses to tell the truth.

    This might come as a shock just because you lefties say things like this..

    Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
    like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.

    It doesn't make it remotely true.

    Trump even cheats at golf. Has won 21 championships as the sole
    contestant. Sometimes without even finishing the course.

    Trump was not only cooperating he was actively working with the office and returning documents, many he declassified and Yes, he had the authority to do that, all Presidents have this Presidential Authority and Executive Privilege.

    Donald Trump is not the only former president who has been told to
    return classified (and unclassified) documents. The same is true of
    the current president, and all former presidents and vice presidents
    since Richard Nixon left office in disgrace.

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html


    The law did not apply to Nixon, but it was enacted *because of* Nixon,
    Not really sure how Gerald Ford got off the hook. Probably due to some
    kind of special deal made that has yet to be revealed.

    So why the raid at Mar-a-logo, it was clearly a political hit, perhaps it helped to clear to some extent to that tinge of pain in the throats of these losers who lost repeatedly to Trump when he was President.

    You are saying every current and former president and vice president
    have the right to take and keep whatever classified and unclassified
    documents they want, for as long as they want, without permission or
    oversight from anybody, despite the law which says otherwise?

    Richard Nixon should have kept those tapes secret, and never revealed
    to anybody what was on them - especiall that eight and half minute gap
    that somehow got erased.

    I think there are much bigger issues for discussion, like why in the hell is
    a dozen of eggs eight dollars+, bacon astronomical too, in fact food prices
    generally speaking are way way up. Food costs were never this high when Donald Trump was President.

    Bernie Sanders tried to tell us, even before Joe Biden became prez -
    wages never keep up with inflation. That is why real wages need to be
    increased - by a lot more than $15 an hour (Sanders' original number).

    Before you ask if I could do better then Biden, the answer is a H-U-G-E YES.

    So could I. But I don't want the gig.

    I would do more in one day then Joe Biden has attempted to do in the last six months.

    It really isn't all that hard to do. Just a day in the life of a fool.

    It would start with real fair & equal trade or there would be no deal.

    Imposing tariffs on goods from outside the USA is like shooting
    yourself in the foot. Goods exported from the USA would be subject
    to tariffs, and not be able to be sold. Therefore, jobs would be
    lost, and our own economy would falter.

    All U.S. Military personal being held in a foreign land would return to the
    U.S.

    And leave those countries being protected from adversaries open
    to invasion - without even being able to put up a fight. Hitler and
    Tojo would have loved you had you been prez rather than FDR.

    (long before I would make a deal for a POS female basketball player)

    She and her spouse are very thankful, and grateful, to President Biden
    for having been able to bring her home safely to the USA.

    This, I can guarantee you.

    Why do you hate lesbians? She and her spouse have suffered greatly
    due to the actions of a despotic tyrant who cares nothing about his
    own people or the rest of the world?

    Do you also hate the president's press secretary, who is also lesbian?
    She certainly makes no apologies for being who and what she is. And she
    has done an incredibly great job, explaining the administration's point
    of view to the press (not an easy task for anybody).

    Leaving American citizens wrongfully detained to rot in a Russian
    gulag is not an option for President Biden, or any other president
    regardless of party.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, January 30, 2023 19:27:58
    On 27 Jan 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    The law did not apply to Nixon, but it was enacted *because of* Nixon,
    Not really sure how Gerald Ford got off the hook. Probably due to some kind of special deal made that has yet to be revealed.
    Yes, I know all about Nixon and what happened, this is what they
    expected from Trump *resign in disgrace* over things were totally made up. Trump is fighter, and he was acquitted twice. The left seems infatuated with Donald Trump. It's good for their bottom line and it pays their bills.
    Biden not so much he has proven to be an embarrassment, just as I predicted earlier in the year.

    Imposing tariffs on goods from outside the USA is like shooting
    yourself in the foot. Goods exported from the USA would be subject
    to tariffs, and not be able to be sold. Therefore, jobs would be
    lost, and our own economy would falter.
    If the tariffs were not equal then I would create a National infinitive to produce here within the U.S. anything that is desired. There was a time when
    we used to do for ourselves. We would return to those times.
    Products from China have proven to inferior as well and even deadly to pets w/ reports from a few years back. Paints and dyes used in the manufacturing process of children's toys have been proven to dangerous as well.
    Yet we have a Wal*Mart and Target in just about every large city. Hardware stores too, all filled to the rafters with inferior Chinese goods.
    To the argument U.S. goods would cost more, I would ok with that because it would mean that these revenue is supporting American families and not the Republic of China.
    Why Clinton brought China into NAFTA, no one has a clue,
    China is no where near North America.

    Do you also hate the president's press secretary, who is also lesbian?
    She certainly makes no apologies for being who and what she is. And she has done an incredibly great job, explaining the administration's point
    of view to the press (not an easy task for anybody).
    I was not aware she was a lesbian, does not change my mind in either
    direction, from what I have seen and heard she does not say anything worth repeating. There is less spin on a basketball with the this one talks.
    The entire administration is just full of excuses and seems really tired.
    I know it is a real struggle at the supermarket these days, things were
    *NEVER* like this under Trump.


    Leaving American citizens wrongfully detained to rot in a Russian
    gulag is not an option for President Biden, or any other president regardless of party.
    Unless you member of the U.S. Military, he did for his base and not for the American People.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, January 30, 2023 20:03:54
    On 27 Jan 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
    like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.

    With every element of woke-ism that exists, you and left minded friends own that 100%

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, January 31, 2023 21:24:12
    Hello Greg,

    Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
    like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.

    With every element of woke-ism that exists, you and left minded friends own
    that 100%

    Thank you for the compliment.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, February 01, 2023 21:24:51
    On 31 Jan 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
    like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.

    With every element of woke-ism that exists, you and left minded frien
    own
    that 100%

    Thank you for the compliment.
    You really shouldn't thank me. It is obvious that there is something
    seriously wrong with you. Either you don't understand or it is a diagnosis of brain damage that will be within your future.
    Still yet it could be of a deliberate nature.
    Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:267/150 to Gregory Deyss on Thursday, February 02, 2023 07:30:54
    seriously wrong with you. Either you don't understand or it is a
    diagnosis of brain damage that will be within your future.
    Still yet it could be of a deliberate nature.

    I'm pretty sure it's brain damage in this case. :)

    Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to eliminate
    that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Ron Lauzon on Thursday, February 02, 2023 12:35:44
    Hello Ron!

    02 Feb 23 07:30, you wrote to Gregory Deyss:

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
    eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
    consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).


    or George Santos. (or whatever his name is this week)


    Mike


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Thursday, February 02, 2023 17:07:00
    After all, if there are no negative
    consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).
    or George Santos.

    True on both counts.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Miller on Friday, February 03, 2023 03:06:13
    Hello Mike,

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
    eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
    consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for
    people like Maxine Waters).

    or George Santos. (or whatever his name is this week)

    The congresscritter is a member of zero committees, but the
    weakest speaker of the house (of all time) needs his vote.
    Gay boy from New York has California MAGA clown by the balls.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Thursday, February 02, 2023 23:32:14
    On 02 Feb 2023, Ron Lauzon said the following...

    After all, if there are no negative consequences,
    people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
    Maxine Waters).
    I am just amazed how much play the woke madness gets acted upon.
    Is it out of fear or ignorance maybe it is a bit of both?
    Regardless it is beyond the time to push back on each and every instance or occurrence of this behavior in whichever form that it presents itself. Why is this important and necessary is because of the danger for that which is considered to be offensive will grow into the new normal. How many liberties
    or freedoms do I have to give up for someone to have something that they
    never had in first place?

    For years lefty analogies and other so called facts told us that Robert
    Mueller and his cast of 13 thieving democrats were so sure that there was Russian interference from Donald Trump and his associates. There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress this was also proven to
    be unfounded due to Donald Trump being acquitted twice.

    They told us that Donald Trump would never be President, of course this was followed by jabs and laughter, just as they are telling us now that he will not become the 47th President, regardless what former President has done or has said I know it will be a massive improvement to the current embarrassment that is currently sits within The White House.

    BTW, Direct TV canceling Newsmax is censorship, I have *also* canceled my Direct TV account due to this.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron Lauzon on Friday, February 03, 2023 01:24:00
    On 02-02-23 07:30, Ron Lauzon <=-
    spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: Real Issues <=-

    Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
    eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
    Maxine Waters).

    Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the
    house.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Friday, February 03, 2023 07:14:55
    On 03 Feb 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequence people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).

    Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the house.

    I think it is obvious or at least it should be as to why Donald Trump was and is so popular.
    He was the first to talk about and even rage about America being ripped off. Why didn't anyone else mention this, or do anything about it?
    Could it be because they were on the take to enrich themselves.
    He also spoke about "America First" I have no idea why the left thinks of
    this as a problem. Donald Trump spoke nearly identical to the way that most
    of us think inside our own heads.
    I also voted for Obama the first time he ran, he sounded like "wow" I was inspired and excited for "hope and change" but in many respects he was a firework that was really nothing more than a dud - a firework that never took off.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, February 03, 2023 08:32:08
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I am just amazed how much play the woke madness gets acted upon.
    Is it out of fear or ignorance maybe it is a bit of both?

    Probably a little bit of both.

    Many of the hard-core Wokies (as opposed to the good Wookies :)) have
    been indoctrinated not only by their moron parents, but the public "education" system as well as "higher" learning centers. They've been fed BS for so long and any self-correction mechanism (like self-awareness or critical thinking skills) have been suppressed.

    Even if they do get a feeling that their Narrative is "wrong", they are scared to voice it because their comrades might punish them for wrong-speech... er... "hate" speech.

    How many liberties or freedoms do I have to give up for
    someone to have something that they never had in first place?

    Zero.

    There is no "right to not be offended".
    As I have told people before, I do not have to participate in **your** delusion.
    There are businesses that I no longer go to. I have people on social media that I have unfriended.

    As I have said: I will not be tolerant of the intolerant.

    We are doing our best to make "Get Woke, Go Broke" true.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Dale Shipp on Friday, February 03, 2023 08:32:08
    Dale Shipp wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
    eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
    Maxine Waters).

    Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the house.

    We were talking about stupidity, not Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    But we all know how well you Ignornat Elitists read other people's words.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Miller on Friday, February 03, 2023 14:40:41
    Hello Mike,

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
    eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
    consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for
    people like Maxine Waters).

    or George Santos. (or whatever his name is this week)

    78% of voters in George Santos' district want him to resign
    from Congress. Why? Because he lied, about everything, when he
    ran for office. And he continues to lie, about everything, to
    this day.

    Just the kind of gayboy the speaker of the house wants by his side.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, February 03, 2023 16:00:15
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    BTW, Direct TV canceling Newsmax is censorship, I have *also* canceled my Direct TV account due to this.

    Good luck with your "boycott".

    AT&T did the only sensible thing it could do - drop Newsmax due to
    increasing fees. AT&T did the same thing with OASS last year. So what
    is there to complain about?

    DirecTV (owned by AT&T) has 13 million subscribers. Those who are
    not subscribers have other means to watch Newswax, as it is available
    on YouTube, Roku, and the network's own website.

    Not that anybody will really miss it.

    FoxNews 1,400,000 viewers
    MSNBC 733,000 viewers
    CNN 568,000 viewers
    Newsmax 150,000 viewers

    See how that works? Conservative companies (such as OASS and Newsmax)
    get greedy and decide to increase their fees. And get dropped by those
    who choose not to play their game.

    Which explains their poor ratings, and few number of viewers.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Friday, February 03, 2023 16:00:25
    Hello Dale,

    Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a
    cost.

    And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
    eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
    consequences,
    people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
    Maxine Waters).

    Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the house.

    Donald Trump would make a great replacement for gayboy George Santos.
    But first he would have to convince the drag queen wannabe to resign.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, February 03, 2023 16:00:32
    Hello Greg,

    I think it is obvious or at least it should be as to why Donald Trump was and
    is so popular.

    He will soon become the first former POTUS ever to be indicted.
    And then convicted. Gonna be fun times in New York, his former home.
    Might also be fun times in Georgia, his possible future home.

    Nixon got off the hook due to a presidential pardon. But it is
    doubtful Biden will even consider pardoning Trump. Although doing
    so might be his only chance to win a second term.

    He was the first to talk about and even rage about America being ripped off.

    Charles Lindberg said it first. But nobody believed him. So we got
    FDR instead. Then Trump said it. But nobody wanted to believe Clinton.
    So Trump got the gig. And was thrown out after his first (and only)
    term.

    Why didn't anyone else mention this, or do anything about it?

    People have the memory of a gnat.

    Could it be because they were on the take to enrich themselves.

    Everybody ought to be rich.

    He also spoke about "America First"

    He said it in his inaugaration speech, making it clear to everyone
    that was what his administration was all about, and would be about.

    I have no idea why the left thinks of this as a problem.

    The American people (left and right) threw his sorry ass out of
    office the first chance they got - by 7 million votes - in 2020.

    Donald Trump spoke nearly identical to the way that most of us think inside
    our own heads.

    I can see clearly now - just like Johnny Cash.

    Trump bad. Biden good.

    I also voted for Obama the first time he ran, he sounded like "wow" I was inspired and excited for "hope and change" but in many respects he was a firework that was really nothing more than a dud - a firework that never took
    off.

    He did pretty good for himself, the first Kenyan American ever to have
    won the presidency, and to have served two consecutive terms. Too bad
    his wife, the first African American first lady, chose not to run when
    he retired, as she would have won in a landslide, leaving The Donald
    in the dust ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, February 05, 2023 00:22:00
    On 02-04-23 10:51, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Real Issues <=-

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely political result -- and was anticipated.

    You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?
    Who was it that brought these articles of impeachment to bare.
    The Democrats...
    Why did they bring them forward at all.

    They brought them forward because they had clear evidence of wrong doing
    on the part of Trump. He was acquitted by the Senate Republicans
    because they ignored that evidence.

    What the Mueller group investigated and provided evidence for is the
    fact that members of the Trump group communicated with Russian agents. They also investigated and provided evidence for the fact that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 election in favor of Trump.

    Are you forgetting about the connection w/ the Hillary connection and
    the MI6 that provided the fake Russian Dossier?

    Not forgetting, it is just not relevant to this thread.

    By the Way
    Mr Mueller reiterated that in a rare statement following the end of
    the inquiry and said legal guidelines prevent the indictment of a
    sitting president. He said if his team had had confidence that Mr Trump "clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so".

    Good quote. Consider the meaning and the implication. I.e. his team
    believed that Trump may well have committed a crime. But because of DOJ
    policy with respect to a sitting President, they could do nothing more
    than make an implication that he did so -- and to lay out the road map
    to the crimes he committed.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ryan Sirianni on Sunday, February 05, 2023 10:09:10
    Hello Ryan,

    78% of voters in George Santos' district want him to resign
    from Congress. Why? Because he lied, about everything, when he
    ran for office. And he continues to lie, about everything, to
    this day.

    I'm in his district. I voted for him. And I'd vote for him again.

    Well, Donald Trump also lies. About everything. And people still
    voted for him. And might even do so again. Why? Nobody knows.

    We had a candidate who ran for governor some years ago.
    First time he ran, he lost to a woman.
    The next time he ran, she decided not to run.
    So he won that time, virtually unopposed.
    Then he ran for another term.
    And won, virtually unopposed.
    Thinking he was the most qualified person
    who truly deserved to be president, he threw
    his hat into the presidential race, challenging
    Donald Trump to a debate.

    Donald Trump squashed him like a grape.

    Bobby "Piyush" Jindal has never been seen or heard from since.

    People have the memory of a gnat. Even folks like John Edwards
    and Andrew Cuomo can find ways to win elections.

    We had another gubernatorial race in which the runoff was between
    a crook and a racist. People had bumperstickers on their cars saying
    "Vote for the crook. It's important." In the end, both candidates
    went to prison.

    When he got out of prison, the former governor ran for Congress.
    And lost for the first time in his life, to a political newcomer.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, February 05, 2023 09:04:15
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?

    Of course he is. He's an Ignorant Elitists. He can't let something like
    facts get in the way of a false Narrative.

    Are you forgetting about the connection w/ the Hillary connection and
    the MI6 that provided the fake Russian Dossier?

    He's probably not "forgetting" more than "purposely ignoring".

    There was a vote and the Dems lost, bitching about it won't change
    that. I do think it's comical to be upset with losing, when from the
    very start of this it was very much a Democratic circus that was and continuously is corrupt.

    But complaining is all the Ignorant Elitists can do. They certainly can't
    put a good argument together.

    What this was nothing more then a bunch of Sour Grapes.
    It was a "hoax" perpetuated by conspirators and Democrats who are sore that Clinton lost to him, Trump says, and who have been consequently running a "witch hunt" against him.

    Which goes back to how the Ignorant Elitists can never be wrong. Trump showed many, many, many of them how wrong they were - and they can't face that reality. So they have to make stuff up to make themselves feel better.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, February 03, 2023 23:55:00
    On 02-02-23 23:32, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Ron Lauzon about Re: Real Issues <=-

    For years lefty analogies and other so called facts told us that
    Robert Mueller and his cast of 13 thieving democrats were so sure that there was Russian interference from Donald Trump and his associates.

    They were not all Democrats. In fact, Mueller was Republican. Also,
    I'm not at all sure what you mean by "Russian interference from Donald
    Trump". That sounds like you think that Donald Trump somehow interfered
    with the Russians, and I doubt that you or anyone else believe that.
    What the Mueller group investigated and provided evidence for is the
    fact that members of the Trump group communicated with Russian agents.
    They also investigated and provided evidence for the fact that Russia
    attempted to influence the 2016 election in favor of Trump. They did
    not conclude that their attempt actually tipped the scales to have a significant effect in Trump's favor.

    There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress this was also proven to be unfounded due to Donald Trump being
    acquitted twice.

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
    political result -- and was anticipated.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, February 04, 2023 10:51:11
    On 03 Feb 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
    political result -- and was anticipated.

    You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?
    Who was it that brought these articles of impeachment to bare.
    The Democrats...
    Why did they bring them forward at all.

    What the Mueller group investigated and provided evidence for is the
    fact that members of the Trump group communicated with Russian agents. They also investigated and provided evidence for the fact that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 election in favor of Trump.

    Are you forgetting about the connection w/ the Hillary connection and the MI6 that provided the fake Russian Dossier?

    not conclude that their attempt actually tipped the scales to have a significant effect in Trump's favor.

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely political result -- and was anticipated.

    There was a vote and the Dems lost, bitching about it won't change that.
    I do think it's comical to be upset with losing, when from the very start of this it was very much a Democratic circus that was and continuously is corrupt.

    Yes, Mueller was a Republican, but the other 13 were the farthest thing from Republicans, in fact they were Democrats and friends of Hillary Clinton.
    Being friends with Hillary is not illegal, but it has been proven to be
    deadly, just look at all the body-bags around her, if you choose to look and see that is? Of course you always have the choice to close your eyes tightly and then of course make the claim I can not see anything.
    Hillary was a venomous snake.

    What this was nothing more then a bunch of Sour Grapes.
    It was a "hoax" perpetuated by conspirators and Democrats who are sore that Clinton lost to him, Trump says, and who have been consequently running a "witch hunt" against him.

    By the Way
    Mr Mueller reiterated that in a rare statement following the end of the
    inquiry and said legal guidelines prevent the indictment of a sitting president. He said if his team had had confidence that Mr Trump "clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so".

    The FBI also played a heinous role in this too, which in my opinion forever
    has tarnished the FBI. I am not alone as this thought also exists in the minds of many.

    In a public response included in the inspector general report, Wray described more than 40 steps the FBI was taking to address recommendations made by the Horowitz, including changes to make the processes for seeking FISA warrants "more stringent and less susceptible to mistake or inaccuracy."

    It's really simple fix when you think about it, I mean he calls it a "mistake or inaccuracy" when it was really "an act of deliberate political misconduct." that would of been more of a accurate statement.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, February 04, 2023 10:46:00
    There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress this was also proven to be unfounded due to Donald Trump being
    acquitted twice.

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
    political result -- and was anticipated.

    Much as his impeachments prove nothing other than the fact that the
    Democratic house voted to impeach. It was a purely political result -- and
    was anticipated.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sunday, February 05, 2023 01:52:50
    Hello Mike,

    There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress
    this was also proven to be unfounded due to Donald Trump being
    acquitted twice.

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
    political result -- and was anticipated.

    Much as his impeachments prove nothing other than the fact that the Democratic house voted to impeach. It was a purely political result -- and
    was anticipated.

    Trump was impeached - twice - but not exonerated.
    Impeachments are forever, like the stain on Monica's blue dress.
    Which was stored as evidence during Clinton's impeachment.

    Clinton was acquitted - and exonerated - due to no evidence
    of there being any crime committed.

    Trump was impeached. Twice. On real evidence. Impeachment is forever,
    like a mortal sin that can never be forgiven.

    Trump was acquitted by Repubican Senators who never bothered to even
    look at the evidence, basing their votes on hearsay.

    Hearsay is not evidence.

    Therefore, Trump is still guilty. And always will be.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, February 05, 2023 01:53:00
    Hello Greg,

    Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
    Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
    political result -- and was anticipated.

    You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?
    Who was it that brought these articles of impeachment to bare.
    The Democrats...
    Why did they bring them forward at all.

    You're right. Why did the Democrats even bring that issue up?
    You know as well as I do there is only one rule in politics.
    Just one. But nobody wants to mention what that rule is. At
    least not in public.

    Republicans proved this point years ago. With a different president.
    Rather than have him impeached on the one charge that really mattered,
    they made up other charges that had nothing to do with the price of
    rice in China.

    Of course, the president was impeached by the house, as expected.
    Even though the evidence clearly showed he was guilty of the real
    crime he should have been charged with.

    Not that it mattered, since the Senate acquitted him on all charges.
    But not exonerated, since he was still guilty of that one charge the
    house failed to charge him with.

    We all know what that one crime was -

    THOU SHALT NOT FUCK AN INTERN!

    Well, okay. It might be okay for congresscritters. Which might
    be the reason The Clinton was never charged with a real crime that
    mattered.

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski!"
    ~ Bill Clinton

    He actually said that, on camera, with a black eye and a broken
    nose. And we know who decked him just before he made that speech.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ryan Sirianni@1:105/420 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, February 04, 2023 15:42:55
    78% of voters in George Santos' district want him to resign
    from Congress. Why? Because he lied, about everything, when he
    ran for office. And he continues to lie, about everything, to
    this day.

    I'm in his district. I voted for him. And I'd vote for him again.

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