• Up, Up, and away, in my..

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Friday, February 03, 2023 15:56:00
    ...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!

    So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they
    mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had determined
    it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it wafted across the US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.

    They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the way up
    to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it might "fall and hurt someone."

    Now, Montana is a very large and very sparsely populated state. Some of
    the states it would have had to have crossed through to get to its current position (apparently over Kansas City, MO) are also very sparsely
    populated. Plenty of opportunity to shoot it down and have it likely not
    fall on anything, except a corn field or a former government missle silo
    site.

    Now that they've waited until it is over more populated areas, they are going to let it continue its flight across the country, until it reaches the Gulf
    or the Atlantic or falls down on its own rather than shoot it down.

    So, if you live in its path, you might want to go outside and give the
    Chinese government something to look at. :(

    Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they did right
    before 9/11.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Saturday, February 04, 2023 00:37:11
    Now that they've waited until it is over more populated areas, they are going to let it continue its flight across the country, until it reaches the Gulf or the Atlantic or falls down on its own rather than shoot it down.

    I suspect that either 1) Biden's waiting for the balloon to reach the Pacific Ocean so that the owners can reclaim it or 2) It's doing something more nefarious that just spying or 3) It's a prop for the "Biden's a hero" charade. ("Look how well he handled that!")

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Friday, February 03, 2023 21:01:36
    On 03 Feb 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    ...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!
    You beat me to it Mike..:)
    I so was looking forward to coming home to sound off about this.

    So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had determined it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it
    wafted across the US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.

    I do believe due to what this is; A Spy Balloon, by that very nature it is confirmed as a intentional intrusion into U.S. air space.

    They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the way up to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it
    might "fall and hurt someone."

    That is total and complete BULLSHIT! Biden is a Pussy, pure and simple, there is no other way to say it. It would not fall out of the sky and hurl to the earth as Biden has suggested. In-fact if you punched a hole in a helium balloon it will lose altitude and gently fall out of the sky as it looses helium, therefore, it wouldn't plummet to earth as Biden has suggested.

    This bit of knowledge comes from a caller via the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton show (www.clayandbuck.com) who took over for the former host Rush Limbaugh after his passing. The caller was a professional balloonist who made the claim that this balloon wouldn't come falling and hurling to crash to the earth as suggested by this shit_stain of a President.
    As the caller indicated "Nothing happens quickly in a balloon."

    The real truth is more likely that Biden was very afraid of what would the Chinese do next with an act of aggression or other forms retaliation for knocking the hell out of this thing. I know this, the Chinese and the rest of the world know this. I mean... We went to the moon so we should have the technology to grab the SOB and recover it then we would have full rights to inspect this SPY balloon and see what it has captured.

    I believe the correct response would of been to show the full and unrelenting fire power of the U.S. Military to let the Chinese via a spectacular show of force, Do NOT ever do this again!

    I'm NOT remotely suggesting or stating this would of been worthy of launching ICBM's over this because that would of been a severe over reaction, but before anyone says or mentions... What would Trump do? The Dems would have you believe that Trump would of started World War III over this, that is just foolish but that is the kind of thing that they would have you believe. As they would sit there in their mommas basement while licking a fudgesicle as they tell you between licks that they thank their lucky stars that Trump is not in power.
    We both know how the left thinks.

    This absolutely shows the world that Biden is an absolute push-over and more over to a greater point makes the United States of America appear weak.

    I wonder what the people in Taiwan, must be thinking... you promised you would protect us from Chinese aggression and you have a very tired man in your White House that either will not or can not defend his own air space.
    How are you going to protect us, in our time of need?

    Obviously, I am not the President but if I was I would rush to the situation room, and listen to a number of options and choose the best solution.
    Letting it float on free will would not be one of them.

    It is very ironic that next week is The State of the Union, is Biden really going to stand there and suggest to the American People that the State of the Union is strong and meanwhile he did nothing while a spy balloon floated from Montana and went unchecked left alone to eventually float out to the Atlantic Ocean?

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Saturday, February 04, 2023 07:53:13
    Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they did right
    before 9/11.

    They seem complicit to me.

    But didn't the Japanese do something similar back in WWII? Only a couple
    made it to the U.S. and I think only 1 exploded.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, February 04, 2023 14:19:39
    Hello Aaron,

    Now that they've waited until it is over more populated areas, they
    are
    going to let it continue its flight across the country, until it
    reaches
    the Gulf or the Atlantic or falls down on its own rather than shoot
    it
    down.

    I suspect that either 1) Biden's waiting for the balloon to reach the Pacific Ocean so that the owners can reclaim it or

    The weather balloon has already crossed the Pacific Ocean.
    And Alaska. And the northwestern part of Canada. Now it is
    in Montana. And will continue on its path - wherever the
    wind takes it.

    2) It's doing something more nefarious that just spying or

    Just because a weather balloon flies over a military installation
    does not make it a spy balloon - regardless of what country it was
    launched from.

    3) It's a prop for the "Biden's a hero" charade.

    Hunter Biden is a licensed lawyer, not a pilot of any kind.

    ("Look how well he handled that!")

    Lovely weather. Especially at this time in Beijing.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, February 04, 2023 14:19:47
    Hello Greg,

    ...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!

    You beat me to it Mike..:)
    I so was looking forward to coming home to sound off about this.

    What is there to be upset about? A weather balloon went got carried
    away to a distant place by the wind. Happens all the time.

    So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they
    mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had
    determined it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it
    wafted across the US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.

    I do believe due to what this is; A Spy Balloon, by that very nature it is confirmed as a intentional intrusion into U.S. air space.

    It is a weather balloon. Like all other weather balloons, it was
    carried by the wind to where it went and to wherever it is going.

    They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the
    way
    up to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it
    might "fall and hurt someone."

    That is total and complete BULLSHIT! Biden is a Pussy, pure and simple, there is no other way to say it. It would not fall out of the sky and hurl to the earth as Biden has suggested.

    What goes up must come down. The only questions are when and how.
    Blowing up a weather balloon can have unintended consequences. Since
    the debris field would be a 20-mile by 20-mile area, that means lots
    of people could get hurt. Innocent people. Such as school kids.

    In-fact if you punched a hole in a helium balloon it will lose altitude and
    gently fall out of the sky as it looses helium,
    therefore, it wouldn't plummet to earth as Biden has suggested.

    A helium balloon would more likely pop in the air and never land
    anywhere. A weather balloon is much different, and leaves a debris
    field covering a twenty square mile area.

    This bit of knowledge comes from a caller via the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
    show (www.clayandbuck.com) who took over for the former host Rush Limbaugh after his passing.

    He is full of shit.

    The caller was a professional balloonist who made the claim that this balloon wouldn't come falling and hurling to crash to the earth as suggested by this shit_stain of a President.

    Have you ever seen a helium balloon crash? I have. A hot air balloon,
    the kind folks fly by riding in a basket tied to the bottom of the
    balloon, came crashing down onto a field next to a major highway in
    Baton Rouge. It was caught on video, and shown on television. The
    pilot did not survive, and neither did the ballooon.

    As the caller indicated "Nothing happens quickly in a balloon."

    Bull fucking shit. The balloon came straight down, the basket still
    attached, with the pilot still in the basket. Even if the pilot had
    a parachute, he never would have had time to exit the basket, much
    less open his parachute (which no sane person flying a hot air
    balloon would have with them).

    The real truth is more likely that Biden was very afraid of what would the Chinese do next with an act of aggression or other forms retaliation for knocking the hell out of this thing.

    You have got to be kidding me. Joe Biden would go to war by attacking
    Chinese weather balloons out of the sky wherever they are found.

    I know this, the Chinese and the rest of the world know this.

    Well, it is true everybody knows how well Ronald Reagan's Star Wars
    (missile defense system) worked. So why not attack the USA with weather balloons? Just load 'em up with pathogens created at Wuhan and let the
    weather balloons take them wherever the wind takes them ...

    I mean...

    These kind of things happen all the time. We fly spy satellites,
    and nobody else gets upset. So why should we get upset when other
    countries do the same? Not that the weather balloon in question
    is a spy satellite, especially since its only source of fuel is
    the wind and it cannot fly off into space.

    We went to the moon so we should have the technology to grab the SOB and recover it then we would have full rights to inspect this SPY balloon and see what it has captured.

    The Chinese have also been to the moon, including the dark side.
    Not that any weather balloons are needed anywhere in those parts.

    I believe the correct response would of been to show the full and unrelenting fire power of the U.S. Military to let the Chinese via a spectacular show of force, Do NOT ever do this again!

    How hard would it be for the US military to take down a weather
    balloon? An unarmed weather balloon, traveling very slowly, on wind
    power alone ...

    I'm NOT remotely suggesting or stating this would of been worthy of launching ICBM's over this because that would of been a severe over reaction, but before anyone says or mentions...

    Too late. Several right-wing wackos have already beaten you to it.

    What would Trump do?

    Nothing. Nothing at all. That is what he did. As POTUS. For four years.
    Why do you ask?

    The Dems would have you believe that Trump would of started World War III over this, that is just foolish but that is the kind of thing that they would have you believe.

    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) made the claim that Trump would have
    done exactly as you suggest. Good thing he is no longer POTUS.

    [..]

    This absolutely shows the world that Biden is an absolute push-over and more
    over to a greater point makes the United States of America appear weak.

    Had Biden ordered the military to shoot down the weather balloon
    the US would have become the laughing stock of the world. And it is
    also possible that scores of innocent Americans would have gotten
    killed by falling debris.

    But that didn't happen. And Americans are safe from weather balloons
    flying over US air space. You can count on that.

    I wonder what the people in Taiwan, must be thinking...

    Praising Biden for defending Ukraine, and democracy, around the world.

    you promised you would protect us from Chinese aggression and you have a very tired man in your White House that either will not or can not defend his own air space. How are you going to protect us, in our time of need?

    Biden has done quite a job, putting Putin in his place.
    And he has continued to do a heck of job putting other dictators
    in their place.

    Obviously, I am not the President but if I was I would rush to the situation
    room, and listen to a number of options and choose the best solution.

    Jets were scrambled, the object determined to be no threat, and
    allowed to continue on its course.

    Letting it float on free will would not be one of them.

    Who said President Biden did nothing?

    It is very ironic that next week is The State of the Union, is Biden really
    going to stand there and suggest to the American People that the State of the
    Union is strong and meanwhile he did nothing while a spy balloon floated from
    Montana and went unchecked left alone to eventually float out to the Atlantic
    Ocean?

    The state of the union is great, with 517,000 new jobs created in the
    month of January alone, and unemployment at 3.4 percent - the lowest it
    has been since the days of JFK.

    Two fighter jets were scrambled, and the object in question was
    determined to be no threat, and was allowed to continue on its course.

    Gonna be a fun show in the house of MAGA clowns this coming Tuesday ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, February 04, 2023 14:03:27
    The weather balloon has already crossed the Pacific Ocean.
    And Alaska. And the northwestern part of Canada. Now it is
    in Montana. And will continue on its path - wherever the
    wind takes it.

    Why would someone let millions of dollars worth of equipment float around wherever the wind will take it?

    Just because a weather balloon flies over a military installation
    does not make it a spy balloon - regardless of what country it was launched from.

    You're right about that. Further inspection is needed. However, we won't be inspecting anything if the aircraft makes it safely back home to China.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, February 05, 2023 01:53:23
    Hello Aaron,

    The weather balloon has already crossed the Pacific Ocean.
    And Alaska. And the northwestern part of Canada. Now it is
    in Montana. And will continue on its path - wherever the
    wind takes it.

    Why would someone let millions of dollars worth of equipment float around wherever the wind will take it?

    Weather balloons are inflated with helium, the line is cut, and
    the weather balloon goes up into the sky. Its height can later
    be adjusted by releasing some of that helium, thus bringing the
    balloon down to a lower height. However, due to Chinese having
    inferior technology, there are no left-right controls and as such
    the weather balloons are forced to go wherever the wind takes
    them. Unnerstan'?

    Just because a weather balloon flies over a military installation
    does not make it a spy balloon - regardless of what country it was
    launched from.

    You're right about that. Further inspection is needed. However, we won't be
    inspecting anything if the aircraft makes it safely back home to China.

    Not to worry. All that ice in Antarctica will ground it so it will
    never be seen again.

    For Life,
    Lee

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