• The Forer effect

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Monday, March 27, 2023 14:08:57
    Name a President that has not done this.

    Biden (and/or Democrats in general) have abused the judicial system a
    lot lately so I see only poor examples coming from them.

    You know, Mike, there's no shame in admitting that you've been duped. After all Trump is the most successful con-man in the last half century. He managed to con himself to the highest political level in the world, plus of course a lot of money on his way.

    Like all con-men he exploits what is called the Forer effect. I recommend that y'all spend 11 minutes on this clip, where you can learn how to prevent falling for various con-men and -women in the future:

    https://youtu.be/uWvA7pxtqhA

    What's shameful is, if you are amongst the last people to see what's behind the curtain (The Wizard of Oz) when it's being raised.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Wednesday, March 29, 2023 09:25:00
    bad enough these same people believe that a man can get
    pregnant.

    Where did that come from?

    There are some trans attention seekers who are claiming that. I suspect
    that they are "trans" for the same reason... to get attention.

    Maybe they watched that movie where Arnold S. carries a child too many
    times.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Thursday, March 30, 2023 00:46:00
    On 03-29-23 08:05, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Pre-2021 vs. 2023 <=-


    It was a FBI investigation, you pick and choose when it
    suits you, based on your political allegiance.

    It was a sham, as directed by Trump's AG Barr.

    Learn the difference between the AG and the FBI director.

    I do know the difference. The FBI director reports to and is controled
    by the AG. Both are political appointees.

    It [abortion] is murder. All we hear about are insane examples &
    questions such as what if she was raped? I would wager that
    the majority of these women know full well and in advance
    what they are doing at the moment.

    I have two things wrong with that paragraph of yours. The first is your blaming the victim of rape for getting pregnant. But even more
    egregious is your pushing your religion onto everyone else.

    No I am not blaming anyone for being attacked in this vile way, but
    what I am suggesting that pregnancy due to being raped, is a very
    small number compared to those who act like they don't have
    a care in the world and get knocked-up like there is no
    consequence. (w/out decently as it considered, in or out of
    any religion. or without religion. It is not ok.


    When does life begin?

    There is considerable difference of opinion on that.

    Perhaps it is considered murder by your religion, but not by a majority
    of Americans.

    You're barking up the wrong tree, with that comment. (with you blaming
    me and my religion.) Taking the stance that it is me against the
    world. Not quite, not by a long shot. In fact it is more
    true that the majority of Americans + people around globe
    are repulsed by abortion.

    The majority of Americans are in favor of pro-choice.

    I recommend for your reading the following two articles.

    https://healthresearchfunding.org/20-remarkable-pro-choice-abortion-facts-statistics/

    https://www.britannica.com/story/pro-and-con-abortion

    The second article includes a statement from a survey that pro-choice vs pro-life = 55% vs 39% which is a clear majority in favor of pro-choice.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, March 30, 2023 07:51:44
    On 30 Mar 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 03-29-23 08:05, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Pre-2021 vs. 2023 <=-


    It was a FBI investigation, you pick and choose when it
    suits you, based on your political allegiance.

    It was a sham, as directed by Trump's AG Barr.

    Learn the difference between the AG and the FBI director.

    I do know the difference. The FBI director reports to and is controled
    by the AG. Both are political appointees.

    It [abortion] is murder. All we hear about are insane examples & questions such as what if she was raped? I would wager that
    the majority of these women know full well and in advance
    what they are doing at the moment.

    I have two things wrong with that paragraph of yours. The first is yo
    blaming the victim of rape for getting pregnant. But even more egregious is your pushing your religion onto everyone else.

    No I am not blaming anyone for being attacked in this vile way, but what I am suggesting that pregnancy due to being raped, is a very small number compared to those who act like they don't have
    a care in the world and get knocked-up like there is no
    consequence. (w/out decently as it considered, in or out of
    any religion. or without religion. It is not ok.


    When does life begin?

    There is considerable difference of opinion on that.

    Perhaps it is considered murder by your religion, but not by a majorit
    of Americans.
    Assuming that it is my religion that must be issue was wrong.
    I find abortion repulsive, due to lack of decently, but it does not have thing to do with my religion.

    There is a war going on, and to spite what you might think it is not between us, Yes I disagree with you on most things because your on the left and that is where you draw your opinions from (sometimes it is just repeated without being validated or researched.)

    The trans community is at war with Christianity.
    Why should any child have drag-show story time?
    what the hell is wrong with people? If an Adult wants to attend such filth, fine.
    Children should never ever be subjected to such things. This is a war that should be over in 10 minutes, because Christianity has the almighty God.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Thursday, March 30, 2023 08:19:00
    Assuming that it is my religion that must be issue was wrong.

    Funny thing that. Yesterday, I made the mistake of offering an opinion to
    some former high school/college classmates about a bill that had recently passed our state house. They call it the book ban bill.

    Funnier thing was that I was actually agreeing with them, that I think it
    is dangerous, but I made the mistake of also pointing out that it was predictable considering some of the books that some opponents of the bill had been pushing to have included in elementary school libraries.

    Being believers in including what amounts to porn in schools, they were quick to use the "evangelical" word to paint me as the boogie man.

    That's another thing... someone here used to claim that liberals and
    leftist had no "dog whistle" words or phrases, but "evangelical,"
    "religious," etc., most certainly are so. They use them pull support from their fellow thinkers, and to label those they disagree with as stupid.

    I would hate to have been someone that was in full disagreement with them.

    They were having that melt-down yesterday morning. I did not check back to
    see how it progressed after the state house overrode the Governor's veto of
    the so called "anti-trans" bill. They probably had a November, 2016 style meltdown after that.

    One other observation that I will make... these same people, if they have children, have at least one gender confused kid. I wonder why.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Thursday, March 30, 2023 20:35:50
    On 30 Mar 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    They were having that melt-down yesterday morning. I did not check back to see how it progressed after the state house overrode the Governor's veto of the so called "anti-trans" bill. They probably had a November, 2016 style meltdown after that.

    Well I would find something to brace yourself with.
    There is going to a trans day of vengeance coming to the Washington, D.C.
    (not sure how close you are to D.C) also not sure what that will look like, I would like to see an equal number of Hell's angels in the same city at the same time. They will mop the floor with these trans-folk.

    Washington D.C. has a crime rate as it is without these trans folk crying over what they have self-described as trans genocide, so what who gives a crap if the state of Tennessee banned drag-show storytime hour as well other public dragshow filth within the state. The state also banned "Gender-Affirming Care for transgender youth" sounds like a no-brainer.

    Additionally, these gang bangers need to be locked up and not released to commit more crime, in many instances they are committing more crimes on the very same day that they were released. It makes no sense to allow for the same people to be repeat offenders, lock them up and keep them there for a year and then provide a means for a better life such as a work program to make absolutely sure that stay on course and walk the straight and narrow. Letting these people walk free does not teach them any lesson between right and wrong,
    nor does it provide any consequence.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, March 31, 2023 06:39:06
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    Perhaps it is considered murder by your religion, but not by a
    majority of Americans.

    Assuming that it is my religion that must be issue was wrong.
    I find abortion repulsive, due to lack of decently, but it does not have thing to do with my religion.

    Do you eat beans? Beans are aborted plants. Most people love them.

    There is a war going on, and to spite what you might think it is not between
    us, Yes I disagree with you on most things because your on the left and that is where you draw your opinions from (sometimes it is just repeated without being validated or researched.)

    Medical professionals are not amateurs, and are very competent in
    what they do. Politicians are amateurs, and are not trustworthy to
    begin with when it comes to medical practice.

    The trans community is at war with Christianity.
    Why should any child have drag-show story time?

    Judas kissed Jesus. On the lips. In public, and in front of Roman
    soldiers, in the Garden of Gethsemene. Its in the Bible, so please
    do not pretend it didn't happen.

    You do realize what this means. Judas was Jesus' favorite apostle.
    And everybody in the garden found out why. So what did soldiers do?
    They arrested Jesus, not Judas. And then Peter took out his rusty
    sword and chopped off the ear of one of the soldiers.

    Jesus did *not* put the ear back on the soldier's face.

    what the hell is wrong with people?

    Read your Bible, man! The Jewish people would have stoned them both
    had Roman soldiers not arrested Jesus first. I mean, that is what they
    did with gay men. Lesbians could get away with such antics, as long
    as they were single and not married - as same-sex marriage was not
    allowed. Judas got a pass from the soldiers because he had made a deal,
    but what he did caught up with him later.

    If an Adult wants to attend such filth, fine.

    Then why did the Jewish people not stone Jesus? Or Judas? Or both?

    Children should never ever be subjected to such things.

    Jesus loved the little children. And little children loved Jesus.
    So why would anybody want to object? He did everything in public,
    for all to see, including the parents of those children. And yet,
    nobody threw any stones at him.

    This is a war that should be over in 10 minutes, because Christianity has the almighty God.

    My Goddess is the Goddess of Love, a true hermaphrodite who gave
    her life for all our sins.

    You do realize she was preggers while pegged on a tree.
    And yes, she was bleeding at the time ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, March 31, 2023 02:07:00
    On 03-30-23 07:51, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Abortion <=-

    When does life begin?

    There is considerable difference of opinion on that.

    Perhaps it is considered murder by your religion,
    but not by a majority of Americans.

    Assuming that it is my religion that must be issue was wrong.
    I find abortion repulsive, due to lack of decently, but it
    does not have thing to do with my religion.

    Saying that abortion of a non-viable fetus is equal to murder is a view
    held by some religious groups. If you have some other reason for that
    belief then you are in a minority.

    There is a war going on, and to spite what you might think it is not between us, Yes I disagree with you on most things because your on
    the left and that is where you draw your opinions from
    (sometimes it is just repeated without being validated or
    researched.)

    I am not really on the left. I am much more centrist that you and
    others here might claim. Over the years, I have voted for major
    Republican candidates (President and Governor) almost as many times as I
    have voted for Democratic candidates. I base my opinions on observable
    data and facts. Most of my disagreements are with those who state
    opinions that are not consistent with that.

    The trans community is at war with Christianity.

    Not in my opinion, it is some parts of Christian Religious groups that
    are at war with Trans people.

    Why should any child have drag-show story time?
    what the hell is wrong with people? If an Adult wants to
    attend such filth, fine.

    I have very little knowledge about that. What filth is being told to
    the children at their story time by those in drag?

    Children should never ever be subjected to such things.
    This is a war that should be over in 10 minutes, because
    Christianity has the almighty God.

    If you think that Christian groups are totally consistent, then you are
    sadly mistaken. Nor that Christians have the only claim to God.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, March 31, 2023 12:20:16
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    Well I would find something to brace yourself with. There is going to a trans day of vengeance coming to the Washington, D.C. (not sure how close you are to D.C) also not sure what that will look like, I would like to see
    an equal number of Hell's angels in the same city at the same time. They will mop the floor with these trans-folk.

    You are one sick puppy. But it proves President Joe Biden right -

    "Transgender people are some of the bravest Americans I know, and our
    nation and the world are stronger, ore vibrant, and more prosperous
    because of them." ~President Joe Biden, March 18, 2023

    Washington D.C. has a crime rate as it is without these trans folk crying over what they have self-described as trans genocide, so what who gives a crap if the state of Tennessee banned drag-show storytime hour as well other public dragshow filth within the state. The state also banned "Gender-Affirming Care for transgender youth" sounds like a no-brainer.

    Why do you hate trans? What have any of them ever do to you to make
    you hate them as if they were the worst form of evil that can exist?

    Perhaps you have watched The Rocky Horror Picture Show too many times.
    That does happen to some folks, but usually not until well after 5,000
    views.

    Dr. Frank 'N' Furter was just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania. Even got along fine with Baby (until he ran amok). And
    you do have to admit his creation of Rocky was *BEAUTIFUL*.

    "I'm just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual Transylvania."
    ~ Dr. Frank 'N' Furter, putting on a show for Janet (and Brad)

    Additionally, these gang bangers need to be locked up and not released to commit more crime, in many instances they are committing more crimes on the
    very same day that they were released.

    Dr. Frank 'N' Furter was a scientist, a scientist who was madly in
    love with his greatest creation - Rocky. And then he met Janet. And
    Brad. Of course, he had to abort Baby. But that was a mercy killing,
    done with a chain saw. So he can be forgiven.

    "Let's do the time warp again!" ~RiffRaff

    It makes no sense to allow for the same people to be repeat offenders,

    Baby was a mental case and had to be done away with before he caused
    any more harm. Everybody knew that. So Dr. Frank 'N' Furter took care
    of it, keeping all in his family safe.

    lock them up and keep them there for a year and then provide a means for a better life such as a work program to make absolutely sure that stay on course and walk the straight and narrow.

    Like a good parent, that is what Dr. Frank 'N' Furter tried to do for
    Baby. Unfortunately, it all ended very badly for Baby.

    Letting these people walk free does not teach them any lesson between right
    and wrong, nor does it provide any consequence.

    Dr. Frank 'N' Furter was just a sweet transvestite from a planet of transsexuals. As such, he would never allow anything to be a danger
    to anyone on this planet or any other planet. So Baby had to go.

    Meatloaf understood. So should we all.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Friday, March 31, 2023 07:43:30
    Mike Powell wrote to GREGORY DEYSS <=-

    Being believers in including what amounts to porn in schools, they were quick to use the "evangelical" word to paint me as the boogie man.

    Of course. They have no facts. They have no logical arguments. So they just immediately drop into slapping a "bad" label on anyone who disagrees with the Narrative.

    That's another thing... someone here used to claim that liberals and leftist had no "dog whistle" words or phrases, but "evangelical," "religious," etc., most certainly are so. They use them pull support
    from their fellow thinkers, and to label those they disagree with as stupid.

    But when you remember that there are no people in that group who can think for themselves, you realize that they are just one big hivemind controlled by a small group of handlers.

    And everything they accuse someone of, they do.

    One other observation that I will make... these same people, if they
    have children, have at least one gender confused kid. I wonder why.

    That's why today's mess will take literally generations to undo.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Friday, March 31, 2023 13:20:00
    They were having that melt-down yesterday morning. I did not check back to see how it progressed after the state house overrode the Governor's veto of the so called "anti-trans" bill. They probably had a November, 2016 style meltdown after that.

    Well I would find something to brace yourself with.
    There is going to a trans day of vengeance coming to the Washington, D.C. (not sure how close you are to D.C) also not sure what that will look like, I uld like to see an equal number of Hell's angels in the same city at the same me. They will mop the floor with these trans-folk.

    I am no where near DC, thank goodness. I hear that some trans groups have tried to distance themselves from the "day of vengence" since one of their
    own was involved in that school shooting in Nashville.

    Washington D.C. has a crime rate as it is without these trans folk crying
    ver
    hat they have self-described as trans genocide, so what who gives a crap if
    h
    state of Tennessee banned drag-show storytime hour as well other public
    rags
    w filth within the state. The state also banned "Gender-Affirming Care for
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    gender youth" sounds like a no-brainer.

    Something that some people probably don't understand... when they say "genocide," they don't necessarily mean litteral deaths. When a person transitions, some in the culture refer to their former name/identity as
    "dead." If you prevent them from transitioning until they are 18, then you might be killing their yet to be born new identity if, in the meantime,
    they realize they really don't want to transition after all.

    They banned several things involving youths here in KY, including a
    school's "right" to keep gender changing behavior a secret from a student's parents.

    Additionally, these gang bangers need to be locked up and not released to
    omm
    more crime, in many instances they are committing more crimes on the very
    am
    day that they were released. It makes no sense to allow for the same people
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    tay on course and walk the straight and narrow. Letting these people walk
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    oes not teach them any lesson between right and wrong,
    nor does it provide any consequence.

    There are a lot of repeat offenders among those who want violence. I agree
    I don't know why they let them out so fast.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Friday, March 31, 2023 13:22:00
    One other observation that I will make... these same people, if they have children, have at least one gender confused kid. I wonder why.

    That's why today's mess will take literally generations to undo.

    I think the time to start undoing it was when my generation was still in school. It is those people who are the parents of today and who are encouraging the nonsense.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Friday, March 31, 2023 13:29:00
    The trans community is at war with Christianity.

    Not in my opinion, it is some parts of Christian Religious groups that
    are at war with Trans people.

    Once upon a time I might have agreed with you. Now I know too many people
    who support trans activities (parents of "non-binary" kids as an example)
    who want to do things simply because they know they will upset those who
    they consider "evangelical" and/or want public schools to have the right to exclude parents (read "parents that don't think like me") from having any
    say in their child's education process.

    I think the problem lies with both sides as both want to force their views
    of what is acceptable upon the other.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, March 31, 2023 19:09:28
    Well I would find something to brace yourself with. There is going to trans day of vengeance coming to the Washington, D.C. (not sure how cl
    you are to D.C) also not sure what that will look like, I would like t
    see
    an equal number of Hell's angels in the same city at the same time. Th
    will mop the floor with these trans-folk.

    You are one sick puppy. But it proves President Joe Biden right -
    I'm a sick puppy because I disagree with Joe Biden? The trans killer is the real sickest of puppies. Who do I have to be to find what the trans-killer did reprehensible and unforgiving. 3 innocent children shot dead, and 3 adults, the trans community has come out and said that there 7 fatalities meaning to include the trans shooter among the dead.

    "Transgender people are some of the bravest Americans I know, and our nation and the world are stronger, ore vibrant, and more prosperous because of them." ~President Joe Biden, March 18, 2023

    You can quote this old fart all day, todate his words mean nothing to me. Biden was cracking jokes I'm Jill Bidens husband then provided one of the reasons why he was there was for the Chocolate chip ice cream.
    I like ice cream too, don't most of us? but my god that was the not the time. Completely out of touch.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Friday, March 31, 2023 19:18:49
    On 31 Mar 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    I am no where near DC, thank goodness. I hear that some trans groups
    have tried to distance themselves from the "day of vengence" since one
    of their own was involved in that school shooting in Nashville.

    I was in Washington D.C. for the Iron Maiden concert, getting to the show was no problem used Uber but after the show my buddy had the not-so bright idea to walk back to the hotel. Used gps to navigate back to the hotel but on the way we came across two prostitutes, just keep my head down and kept it moving
    and a papa johns who would not serve us as they were delivery only.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Saturday, April 01, 2023 00:50:00
    On 03-31-23 13:29, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Abortion <=-


    The trans community is at war with Christianity.

    Not in my opinion, it is some parts of Christian Religious groups that
    are at war with Trans people.

    Once upon a time I might have agreed with you. Now I know too many
    people who support trans activities (parents of "non-binary" kids as an example) who want to do things simply because they know they will upset those who they consider "evangelical" and/or want public schools to
    have the right to exclude parents (read "parents that don't think like me") from having any say in their child's education process.

    I don't think that is the main part of it. I think that there is a
    group of people who think that any part of the rainbow of diversity is
    evil and must be suppressed. I also think that the people who support
    trans are doing mostly because they want them to be accepted as people
    who have rights. I don't really think that the major part on either
    side of the coin is trying to aggravate the other side, but that both
    believe that what they are doing is right.

    I think the problem lies with both sides as both want to force their
    views of what is acceptable upon the other.

    See above.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Saturday, April 01, 2023 01:03:02
    On 03-31-23 07:43, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Mike Powell about Re: Abortion <=-

    Being believers in including what amounts to porn in schools, they were quick to use the "evangelical" word to paint me as the boogie man.

    Of course. They have no facts. They have no logical arguments. So
    they just immediately drop into slapping a "bad" label on anyone who disagrees with the Narrative.

    Your "they" sounds just like Maga members of the Trump cult.

    But when you remember that there are no people in that group who can
    think for themselves, you realize that they are just one big hivemind controlled by a small group of handlers.

    See above.

    And everything they accuse someone of, they do.

    See above.
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Saturday, April 01, 2023 08:32:43
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I think the time to start undoing it was when my generation was still
    in school. It is those people who are the parents of today and who are encouraging the nonsense.

    Yup. The only good news is that their kids probably won't be having kids of their own.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, April 01, 2023 08:32:43
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    I'm a sick puppy because I disagree with Joe Biden?

    "The Narrative is always true", remember?

    The trans killer is
    the real sickest of puppies. Who do I have to be to find what the trans-killer did reprehensible and unforgiving. 3 innocent children
    shot dead, and 3 adults, the trans community has come out and said that there 7 fatalities meaning to include the trans shooter among the dead.

    But they are correct. There were 7. 6 victims and 1 criminal.

    What they want to gloss over is the fact that the criminal was a mentally unstable trans (isn't that redundant?) who murdered 6 christians. This is a classic Hate Crime, but the Ignorant Elitists don't want to head in that direction. "Hate Crime" is something that can only be perpetrated against the Elitists.

    Remember too that we currently have a two-tired system of justice. There are different rules for the Elitists than for everyone else.

    You can quote this old fart all day, todate his words mean nothing to
    me.

    They mean nothing to anyone. Today they are the ramblings of a senile old fool who should be in an assisted living facility. Previously they were the musings of a known chronic liar.

    Biden in assisted living. That reminds me of the movie Bubba Ho Tep (Bruce Campbell as Elvis, Ossis Davis as JFK - you can see where this is going already).


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Saturday, April 01, 2023 16:07:12
    Hello Mike,

    One other observation that I will make... these same people, if they
    have children, have at least one gender confused kid. I wonder why.

    That's why today's mess will take literally generations to undo.

    I think the time to start undoing it was when my generation was still in school. It is those people who are the parents of today and who are encouraging the nonsense.

    Today is not the 1950s world Ron DeSantis wants to return America into. American society has moved forward, and beyond, that kind of life.

    Ozzie and Harriet are no longer with us, and there is no time machine
    available or wanted to get us there. And with orange man having been
    indicted, MAGA idiots do not even have that world to return to.

    Too bad Pat Poulson and Tiny Tim or no longer around.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, April 01, 2023 16:07:24
    Hello Greg,

    Well I would find something to brace yourself with. There is
    going to
    trans day of vengeance coming to the Washington, D.C. (not sure
    how cl
    you are to D.C) also not sure what that will look like, I would
    like t
    see
    an equal number of Hell's angels in the same city at the same
    time. Th
    will mop the floor with these trans-folk.

    You are one sick puppy. But it proves President Joe Biden right -

    I'm a sick puppy because I disagree with Joe Biden?

    Not to worry. Dr. Jill will cure you of your illness.

    The trans killer is the real sickest of puppies.

    Law enforcement (police officers) took care of the problem within
    seconds, making sure nobody else would get hurt or killed. That is
    one of the reasons why we pay taxes.

    Who do I have to be to find what the trans-killer did reprehensible and unforgiving.

    The person who did the crimes was a 28-year-old woman with severe
    mental issues, and in a doctor's care. There was no cure for her
    illness, and whose fault is that? Part of it is her own family,
    which probably could not afford the high cost of psychiatric care.
    And then there is the problem of easy access to guns, especially
    assault-style weapons such as AR-15s. The shooter had seven guns,
    including two assualt-style weapons, all bought legally.

    It is always galling and reprehensible whenever mass shootings
    occur. This has happened far too often, and seems to never stop.
    Why? Because some politicians refuse to do anything at all to
    fix the problem. Real gun control is what is needed, and what has
    always been needed. Including a total ban on assault-style weapons.
    Even the ban put in place by the Clinton administration was not
    enough, as there were loopholes. And lasted only ten years, due
    to Republicans letting the leglislation lapse.

    How many people have to die before real gun control is passed?
    Real gun control that saves people's lives, rather than allowing
    gun manufacturers to continue legally selling as many weapons of
    mass destruction as people want to buy (for whatever purpose or
    no purpose at all)?

    Who is the really sick person in this room? It sure ain't me.

    3 innocent children shot dead, and 3 adults, the trans community has come out and said that there 7 fatalities meaning to include the trans shooter among the dead.

    There were seven innocent victims - six who were murdered by
    a shooter who was mentally ill (and under a doctor's care), and
    the shooter herself (who was not able to control herself or her
    emotions).

    Law enforcement had no choice but to take out the shooter - which
    they did wihin seconds of arriving at the scene. Does anybody blame
    law enforcent for not trying to negotiate? We all know there was no
    time for that, given the situation. Video was taken which showed
    in explicit detail the actions taken.

    "Transgender people are some of the bravest Americans I know, and our
    nation and the world are stronger, ore vibrant, and more prosperous
    because of them." ~President Joe Biden, March 18, 2023

    You can quote this old fart all day, todate his words mean nothing to me.

    Is there any part of his statement that you disagree with? If so,
    please tell.

    Biden was cracking jokes I'm Jill Bidens husband then provided one of the reasons why he was there was for the Chocolate chip ice cream.

    The President was very serious about what he said (quoted above).
    This was on March 18, 2023. Before the mass shooting in Nashville
    took place.

    I like ice cream too, don't most of us? but my god that was the not the time. Completely out of touch.

    The subject is not what flavor of ice cream Biden likes, or does not
    like. It is about real issues. Real issues that matter.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, April 01, 2023 09:12:00
    I think the problem lies with both sides as both want to force their views of what is acceptable upon the other.

    See above.

    Then we will disagree on that. Most of the pro-trans and activists I
    know/know of are pretty militant and were anti anything that might be
    religious or conservative long before this pro-trans movement started.

    I only know one that doesn't fit that.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, April 01, 2023 14:21:52
    The person who did the crimes was a 28-year-old woman with severe
    mental issues, and in a doctor's care. There was no cure for her
    illness, and whose fault is that? Part of it is her own family,
    which probably could not afford the high cost of psychiatric care.
    And then there is the problem of easy access to guns, especially assault-style weapons such as AR-15s. The shooter had seven guns, including two assualt-style weapons, all bought legally.
    Then the standards must be raised to ensure that there is no history of mental illness, depending on what the history reveals.
    - determines the authorization or the declining of the purchase.

    Obviously these systems were not in place when these guns were purchased, due to the aftermath with how they were used. It can be said with assurance that the system failed. However guns can and are obtained by illegal means where gun control mandates wouldn't have any effect.

    Gun makers are often sued, of which is ridiculous.
    Automobile manufactures are not sued, when there is a car accident, unless it is determined that the accident was caused by mechanical failure or by a defect.

    Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the nation and yet they have the highest crime rates related to guns.

    It is never talked about who is behind the crime wave. It happens enough that the "who" question should be known, but society is not interested in acknowledging the "who" because if that were known then the answers would be considered racist. None of those specific guns were purchased by legal means.
    This is why nearly every weekend it is a just another bloodbath in the south side of Chicago.

    There were seven innocent victims - six who were murdered by
    a shooter who was mentally ill (and under a doctor's care), and
    the shooter herself (who was not able to control herself or her
    emotions).
    Just an FYI, This was not the first trans person, to commit such crimes. Unfortunately with this crazed trans community it will not be last.
    That's reason #1 to be at odds with such a group.

    The more important question is can't people be law biding, if it found by a state that such things as public drag shows and gender altering surgery for minors is deemed not allowed by law, then simply obey the law or slink off to another state where there are no such restrictions. Do not commit mass murder of the innocent. This is why the trans community deserve to be vilified until modifications within their beliefs can be confirmed of which is highly
    unlikely.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Saturday, April 01, 2023 23:28:49
    Hello Ron,

    I'm a sick puppy because I disagree with Joe Biden?

    "The Narrative is always true", remember?

    The trans killer is
    the real sickest of puppies. Who do I have to be to find what the
    trans-killer did reprehensible and unforgiving. 3 innocent children
    shot dead, and 3 adults, the trans community has come out and said
    that
    there 7 fatalities meaning to include the trans shooter among the
    dead.

    But they are correct. There were 7. 6 victims and 1 criminal.

    The shooter was a victim, not a criminal. Just like John Hinckley.
    Only difference being John Hinckley is still alive. And well. And free.

    What they want to gloss over is the fact that the criminal was a mentally unstable trans (isn't that redundant?) who murdered 6 christians.

    The shooter was 28 years old, had mental issues, and was under a
    doctor's care. She was also in possession of seven guns, including
    two semi-automatic style weapons, all bought legally.

    Like John Hinckley, she was not a criminal. And likely would have
    been sent to a mental institution had she not been killed by law
    enforcement. And to think the whole episode could have been avoided
    had Republicans chosen not allow the ban on semi-automatics to lapse.

    This is a classic Hate Crime,

    This is a mental health issue, as well as a gun control issue.
    But it is definitely *not* a hate crime.

    but the Ignorant Elitists don't want to head in that direction.

    Law enforcement took care of the problem within seconds of arrival.
    It had nothing to do with "Ignorant Elitists" but everything to do
    with an active shooter.

    "Hate Crime" is something that can only be perpetrated against the Elitists.

    The shooter was not particular about who she was shooting, whether
    it was children or adults. Seemed to be 50/50 from the looks of it.

    Remember too that we currently have a two-tired system of justice. There are different rules for the Elitists than for everyone else.

    So much for the Pledge of Allegiance, which you have no love or
    respect for. "With liberty and justice for all."

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, April 01, 2023 19:48:04
    The shooter was not particular about who she was shooting, whether
    it was children or adults. Seemed to be 50/50 from the looks of it.
    This dead trans shooter was a previous student at the school in Tennessee where she she took 6 lives, it has been reported. If and when the manifesto is released we will know more.
    She also must of had a death wish, surely she did not think she would gotten away with this. Police response took about 15 minutes.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, April 07, 2023 13:46:25
    Hello Greg,

    The person who did the crimes was a 28-year-old woman with severe
    mental issues, and in a doctor's care. There was no cure for her
    illness, and whose fault is that? Part of it is her own family,
    which probably could not afford the high cost of psychiatric care.
    And then there is the problem of easy access to guns, especially
    assault-style weapons such as AR-15s. The shooter had seven guns,
    including two assualt-style weapons, all bought legally.

    Then the standards must be raised to ensure that there is no history of mental illness, depending on what the history reveals.
    - determines the authorization or the declining of the purchase.

    Banning those weapons, with no loopholes, is the solution.
    The last time this country enacted such a ban it had loopholes.
    And Republicans decided to let it lapse after 10 years. What
    we need to do is do away with all the loopholes, and make
    such legislation more permanent, thus making our schools much
    safer for both children and adults alike.

    As far as more funding for mental illness I am all for that.
    As should we all. But doing more to be of help for those who
    suffer from mental illness is not enough. You and me and a
    dog named Boo know that. So why not just do it? Real gun
    control to fix a problem that has existed and continues to
    exist. No amount of funding for improving mental illness
    is going to fix the problems this country has with mass
    shootings.

    Obviously these systems were not in place when these guns were purchased,

    Easy access to guns has always been the problem as nothing has ever
    been done to make it any harder for anybody (including nutcases) from
    getting guns (legally or not).

    due to the aftermath with how they were used.

    The shooter in Nashville had seven guns, all of them bought legally.
    Some of them were semi-automatics (such as AR-15s). How many more people
    have to die, needlessly, because of such easy access to guns?

    It can be said with assurance that the system failed.

    President Biden has called for a ban on assault weapons.
    Only Republicans oppose this idea. Why? Because they want
    to see more people die. Needlessly. Gun manufacturers
    want to sell more guns. And companies that sell ammunition.
    IOW, Republicans have no love for life, but only money.
    Regardless of how many innocent people die as a result.

    However guns can and are obtained by illegal means where gun control mandates wouldn't have any effect.

    The last assault-type weapons ban had a huge effect, until
    Republicans chose to let it lapse.

    Gun makers are often sued, of which is ridiculous.

    Allowing assault-type weapons to be bought by nutcases should be
    a criminal matter (which it is). But rarely are such cases prosecuted.

    John Hinckley was caught carrying a loaded handgun on a golf course
    where President Carter was playing. He was not charged with a crime as
    the Secret Service did not believe he was a threat.

    We all know what happened when he found his way near Ronald Reagan ...

    Buy hey. Let's not pick on poor John Hinckley. He was only trying
    to impress a 15-year-old movie star, and was clearly out of his ever
    freaking mind.

    Besides, you can't sue a crazy man for anything he does or ever did.

    Automobile manufactures are not sued, when there is a car accident, unless it is determined that the accident was caused by mechanical failure or by a
    defect.

    Banning certain weapons would remove that possibility, as none would
    be available.

    Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the nation and yet they have the highest crime rates related to guns.

    Hire more cops. And put them on the street.

    It is never talked about who is behind the crime wave. It happens enough that the "who" question should be known, but society is not interested in acknowledging the "who" because if that were known then the answers would be considered racist. None of those specific guns were purchased by legal means.
    This is why nearly every weekend it is a just another bloodbath in the south
    side of Chicago.

    One side offing the other side does have its advantages for those who
    do not live in those parts. Eventually both sides will be out of folks
    to shoot at and more real estate will become available for purchase.

    But I still think it would be better to let them fight with sticks
    and stones rather than with semi-automatics that can fire more than
    one round at a time for like forever.

    There were seven innocent victims - six who were murdered by
    a shooter who was mentally ill (and under a doctor's care), and
    the shooter herself (who was not able to control herself or her
    emotions).

    Just an FYI, This was not the first trans person, to commit such crimes.

    Of course not. But far more folks who are not trans commit such crimes.
    So the question remains - What is the real cause as to why so many
    people are killed by guns? The answer is exactly as I have told you
    before - easy access to guns.

    Unfortunately with this crazed trans community it will not be last.
    That's reason #1 to be at odds with such a group.

    Trans are a very small minority in this country. And in every other
    country in the world. What makes you think they are the vast majority
    of folks who commit crimes, especially in regards to mass shootings?

    The more important question is can't people be law biding,

    Most people are, including trans.

    if it found by a state that such things as public drag shows and gender altering surgery for minors is deemed not allowed by law, then simply obey the law or slink off to another state where there are no such restrictions.

    I take it you have never been to New Orleans. The French Quarter
    in particular. There are no parades in the French Quarter. Not even
    during Mardi Gras. But we do have an unofficial gay parade on Peter
    Street, on Lundi Gras. Very colorful. Some of those guys work year
    round to design the costumes they wear. No telling how much that
    costs.

    On Mardi Gras, everybody comes out dressed the way they want, if
    at all. On Peter Street is usually gays and lesbians, along with
    trans and whatever else. Tourists get to mingle will all of them,
    at the same time, and enjoy the merriment. And the bartenders
    greet all tourists who come in, male and female, with "What'll
    you have, honey?"

    If the bartender places his/her/its hand on your thigh, you'll
    know he/she/it likes you.

    The next street over is Bourbon Street, where one finds all the
    strippers. They also wear very colorful costumes, or none at all.

    Do not commit mass murder of the innocent.

    No sane woman will ever shoot herself in the pussy with an
    assault-style weapon. Especially since all she needs is a pill.
    Besides, why would anybody want to shoot a baby multiple times?

    This is why the trans community deserve to be vilified until modifications within their beliefs can be confirmed of which is highly
    unlikely.

    Sounds like eugenics. Stelilizing trans thus making it impossible
    for them to reproduce.

    For Life,
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  • From Steve Wolf@1:154/700 to Mike Powell on Friday, April 14, 2023 14:03:50
    Re: Men getting pregnant
    By: Mike Powell to DALE SHIPP on Wed Mar 29 2023 09:25 am

    bad enough these same people believe that a man can get
    pregnant.

    Maybe they watched that movie where Arnold S. carries a child too many times.

    Ya know, I never saw Arnold the same after that movie. Bad Bad career move.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to STEVE WOLF on Friday, April 14, 2023 17:02:00
    bad enough these same people believe that a man can get
    pregnant.

    Maybe they watched that movie where Arnold S. carries a child too many times.

    Ya know, I never saw Arnold the same after that movie. Bad Bad career move.

    I didn't see that one, luckily. :)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Steve Wolf on Saturday, April 15, 2023 16:51:59
    Hello Steve,

    bad enough these same people believe that a man can get
    pregnant.

    Maybe they watched that movie where Arnold S. carries a child too many
    times.

    Ya know, I never saw Arnold the same after that movie. Bad Bad career move.

    I knew a woman who had three children, being the mother of three and
    the father of one. Her husband divorced her after her third kid on
    grounds of adultery, even though she swore under oath she got herself
    pregnant by mistake.

    For Life,
    Lee

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