On 06-19-19 16:02, Bob Ackley <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Biden <=-

My point - which I didn't get to post because the librarian wanted to close up and go home - was that the US "news" media is totally untrustworthy, and hasn't been for about twenty years. Some may be
more reliable than others, but NONE of them are absolutely reliable.
AFAIC they're all lying

I do not believe that of the various local news stations. I also do not believe that of most of the network and cable news stations, but will
readily admit that they each have their own personal bias in what they
choose to report and what they editorize about. It is a bit scary that
Trump's main source of the world and US news seems to be Fox News who is
very selective in what they choose to report and how they tend to slant
it. Whether they do that more than other channels is subject to
personal opinion.

Dale Shipp
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On 06-19-19 16:02, Bob Ackley <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Biden <=-

My point - which I didn't get to post because the librarian

wanted to

close up and go home - was that the US "news" media is totally untrustworthy, and hasn't been for about twenty years. Some may

be

more reliable than others, but NONE of them are absolutely

reliable.

AFAIC they're all lying

I do not believe that of the various local news stations.

You're free to do that. I don't and can't watch broadcast television -
I quit watching the thing over 35 years ago and didn't buy one of those converters when they changed the broadcast television band.

I also do not

believe that of most of the network and cable news stations, but will
readily admit that they each have their own personal bias in what they
choose to report and what they editorize about.

CNN is HEAVILY slanted toward the left wing, both in what it covers and
hot CNN covers it. Fox is somewhat biased toward the right wing but,
unlike CNN< does present opposing views. I've watched both and IMO Fox
is the more reliable of the two (I've not watched any other than those
two); but I don't claim it is absolutely reliable, just more reliable
than CNN.

It is a bit scary that

Trump's main source of the world and US news seems to be Fox News who

is

very selective in what they choose to report and how they tend to

slant

it.

CNN does exactly the same thing and to a much greater degree, except
the slant is to the left wing.
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Hello Dale,

20 Jun 19 02:51 at you wrote to Bob Ackley:

I do not believe that of the various local news stations. I also do

The local news stations are forced to take the political stance of their owner which these days is a large, non-local conglomerate that is more often than not a hard progressive stance.

not believe that of most of the network and cable news stations, but
will readily admit that they each have their own personal bias in what they choose to report and what they editorize about. It is a bit
scary that Trump's main source of the world and US news seems to be
Fox News who is very selective in what they choose to report and how
they tend to slant it. Whether they do that more than other channels
is subject to personal opinion.

FOX News is turning hard left also thanks to Rupert's sons being European progressives. I'd think that while Trump likes FOX News, he's been talking a lot more about OANN (One America News Network).

Either way, the media is full of itself no matter what its political views are.

Later,
Sean

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Sean,

Either way, the media is full of itself no matter what its political
views are.

The media are only interested in advertising revenue.

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On 06-20-19 11:00, Bob Ackley <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about News <=-

AFAIC they're all lying

I do not believe that of the various local news stations.

You're free to do that. I don't and can't watch broadcast television
- I quit watching the thing over 35 years ago and didn't buy one of
those converters when they changed the broadcast television band.

Your statement confuses me. How can you not be able to watch broadcast television (news) but can watch cable news channels?

believe that of most of the network and cable news stations, but will readily admit that they each have their own personal bias in what they choose to report and what they editorize about.

CNN is HEAVILY slanted toward the left wing, both in what it covers
and hot CNN covers it. Fox is somewhat biased toward the right wing
but, unlike CNN< does present opposing views. I've watched both and
IMO Fox is the more reliable of the two (I've not watched any other
than those two); but I don't claim it is absolutely reliable, just
more reliable than CNN.

And there we will probably continue to disagree. CNN often has pundits
from opposite sides of the political spectrum on the show at the same
time. It does slant left, but at least attempts to allow views from the
right to be expressed.

What little I have watched of Fox News (e.g. Hannity) is only a little
step above talk radio in its slant.

Dale Shipp
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On 06-20-19 16:04, Sean Dennis <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about News <=-

I do not believe that of the various local news stations. I also do

The local news stations are forced to take the political
stance of their owner
which these days is a large, non-local conglomerate that is more often than not a hard progressive stance.

Possible, but most of their reporting is local news that does not
get into right/left -- conservative/progressive discussions. What
national politics is discussed on the local channels here in the
Baltimore / DC corridor is simply factual about what is happening.

FOX News is turning hard left also thanks to Rupert's sons being
European progressives.

I had not heard that, nor watched them enough to notice.

I'd think that while Trump likes FOX News,
he's been talking a lot more about OANN (One America News Network).

Either way, the media is full of itself no matter what its political
views are.

By George, I think you've got it.

Dale Shipp
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Possible, but most of their reporting is local news that does not
get into right/left -- conservative/progressive discussions. What
national politics is discussed on the local channels here in the
Baltimore / DC corridor is simply factual about what is happening.

I agree about most local news. We did have a local station back several
years ago that was severely slanted... they really had a thing for Bill and
Al. More recently, that same station added a third person to their morning broadcast. The two original female newscasters were professionals. His job was to interview the Washington correspondent, who was also mostly a professional, and ask her leading questions to try to get her to say something bad about Trump. "Spinmaster" or "reverse Spinmaster" would have been a
better title for him than newscaster.

Sadly (typed sarcastically), they moved him to another newscast that I am
not home to see. So, their morning news is back to being more
professional, which is good because I am only watching for the weather
report and their morning weather person is one of the more reliable ones in
the area.

Mike

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On 06-20-19 11:00, Bob Ackley <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about News <=-

AFAIC they're all lying

I do not believe that of the various local news stations.

You're free to do that. I don't and can't watch broadcast

television

- I quit watching the thing over 35 years ago and didn't buy

one of

those converters when they changed the broadcast television

band.

Your statement confuses me. How can you not be able to watch

broadcast

television (news) but can watch cable news channels?

I have to have kidney dialysis twice a week, four hours per session.
There's nothing to do but watch cable television, for some reason I
can't get to sleep.

believe that of most of the network and cable news stations, but

will

readily admit that they each have their own personal bias in what

they

choose to report and what they editorize about.

CNN is HEAVILY slanted toward the left wing, both in what it

covers

and hot CNN covers it. Fox is somewhat biased toward the right

wing

but, unlike CNN< does present opposing views. I've watched

both and

IMO Fox is the more reliable of the two (I've not watched any

other

than those two); but I don't claim it is absolutely reliable,

just

more reliable than CNN.

And there we will probably continue to disagree. CNN often has

pundits

from opposite sides of the political spectrum on the show at the same
time. It does slant left, but at least attempts to allow views from

the

right to be expressed.

It didn't when I watching it, but as I noted, I only see four hours a
day twice a week.

What little I have watched of Fox News (e.g. Hannity) is only a little
step above talk radio in its slant.

I've never seen Hannity
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On 06-22-19 12:44, Bob Ackley <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: News <=-

Your statement confuses me. How can you not be able to watch

broadcast

television (news) but can watch cable news channels?

I have to have kidney dialysis twice a week, four hours per session. There's nothing to do but watch cable television, for some reason I
can't get to sleep.

And I suppose you have no control over which channels are on the TV.
Too bad, on multiple levels.

And there we will probably continue to disagree. CNN often has
pundits
from opposite sides of the political spectrum on the show at the same
time. It does slant left, but at least attempts to allow views from

the

right to be expressed.

It didn't when I watching it, but as I noted, I only see four hours a
day twice a week.

And I only watch cable news in the evenings. There is most likely a big difference in who is on at the various times.

What little I have watched of Fox News (e.g. Hannity) is only a little
step above talk radio in its slant.

I've never seen Hannity

Count your blessings on that.

Dale Shipp
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On 06-22-19 12:44, Bob Ackley <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: News <=-

Your statement confuses me. How can you not be able to watch

broadcast

television (news) but can watch cable news channels?

I have to have kidney dialysis twice a week, four hours per

session.

There's nothing to do but watch cable television, for some

reason I

can't get to sleep.

And I suppose you have no control over which channels are on the TV.
Too bad, on multiple levels.

Oh, I do have control. I usually watch CNN or Fox News. There are
probably fifty other channels available, none of which are of any
interest to me.

And there we will probably continue to disagree. CNN often has
pundits
from opposite sides of the political spectrum on the show at the

same

time. It does slant left, but at least attempts to allow views

from

the

right to be expressed.

It didn't when I watching it, but as I noted, I only see four

hours a

day twice a week.

And I only watch cable news in the evenings. There is most likely a

big

difference in who is on at the various times.

Most likely.

What little I have watched of Fox News (e.g. Hannity) is only a

little

step above talk radio in its slant.

I've never seen Hannity

Count your blessings on that.

Also for never having seen Roseanne Barr
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