• The truth comes out

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to All on Friday, August 23, 2019 13:25:14
    Hello All.

    The truth comes out, heh. What a jerk. Then again, he's from New Jersey which
    is a giant hole from what I've seen. My friend who was born and raised in New
    Jersey but has long since moved once told me that New Jersey is "the world's biggest toxic waste dump in more ways than one."

    From:
    https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/08/23/democrat-illegal-immigrants-lawns

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    Democrat Lawmaker Suggests We Need Immigrants To Mow `Our Beautiful Lawns'

    Jason Hopkins Immigration and politics reporter
    August 23, 2019 12:13 PM ET

    Democratic New Jersey Rep. Tom Malinowski suggested to a crowd that
    immigrants, whether legal or illegal, are needed to mow "our beautiful
    lawns" and work other undesirable jobs that U.S. citizens don't want to
    do.

    The congressman was speaking Tuesday at an event held at Cafe Brio in
    Hillsborough, a wealthy suburban area in the state.

    "There are a lot of jobs in our community that, like it or not, for better
    or worse, Americans are not willing to take," Malinowski said in video
    obtained by the Washington Examiner. "I mean, who do you think is taking
    care of our seniors?"

    "Who do you think is mowing our beautiful lawns in Somerset County? We
    don't usually ask, but a lot of those workers are undocumented. There are
    just not a lot of, you know, kids - sorry - from Montgomery High who are
    going to be doing that full-time," the first-term Democrat said, which
    prompted laughter from the young audience.

    Malinowski then told the people in attendance they would be going into
    robotics after graduating, suggesting that menial jobs would need to be
    occupied by immigrants.

    "You're a bunch of elitists! You're not going to mow lawns."

    New Jersey GOP Chairman Doug Steinhardt condemned Malinowski's comments.

    "Plenty of legal New Jersey residents landscape for a living or cut their
    own grass. They would all be mortified by your limousine liberal, elitist
    comments. You drawing a parallel between one's intellectual capacity and
    their willingness to do manual labor just shows how out of touch you are
    with your constituents," Steinhardt said in a Friday press
    release. "Apologize for your offensive comments if you want, but we all
    see you now Congressman."

    This isn't the first time Malinowski, who worked in the Obama
    administration before entering Congress, has been caught on camera making
    controversial comments.

    In the run-up to the 2018 midterm elections, he suggested the Republican
    Party was carrying a "white nationalist" identity.

    "My party is having a debate right now about the best way to provide
    health care to Americans," he said during a September 2018 debate with
    then-GOP Rep. Leonard Lance. "The Republican Party right now - not in New
    Jersey so much, but in Washington, D.C. - is having a very different kind
    of debate. It's having a debate about whether to be a white nationalist
    party or not."

    Malinowski occupies New Jersey's 7th Congressional District. For decades,
    the district had been occupied by Republican lawmakers, but was among the
    many GOP seats lots during the 2018 midterm sweep by Democrats. It is
    considered a top target by the Republican National Congressional
    Committee.

    Malinowski's office did not immediately respond to the Daily Caller News
    Foundation's request for comment.
    === Cut ===

    Later,
    Sean
    (who cuts his own lawn and likes it)

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Sean Dennis on Saturday, August 24, 2019 08:52:46
    New Jersey is "the world's biggest toxic waste dump in more ways than one."

    It is swampy in New Jersey. It gets very humid in the summer, so it's only natural for the party who fought to keep slavery to want to enslave illegal immigrants for tasks like mowing lawns.

    You're damn right. The truth slips out once in a while!

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to aaron thomas on Saturday, August 24, 2019 12:05:31
    Hello aaron.

    24 Aug 19 08:52, you wrote to me:

    You're damn right. The truth slips out once in a while!

    Watch Creepy Uncle Joe get the D nomination. I'll laugh myself right out of my
    chair. Obama made some good gaffes but Biden takes the cake.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, August 25, 2019 23:20:22
    You're damn right. The truth slips out once in a while!

    Watch Creepy Uncle Joe get the D nomination. I'll laugh myself right out of my chair. Obama made some good gaffes but Biden takes the cake.

    My opinion, during the next election the voters should collectively refuse to vote if these are the only candidates ... and I'm talking either party.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ward Dossche on Sunday, August 25, 2019 18:43:08
    Hello Ward.

    25 Aug 19 23:20, you wrote to me:

    My opinion, during the next election the voters should collectively
    refuse to vote if these are the only candidates ... and I'm talking
    either party.

    I agree.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, August 29, 2019 01:42:52
    Hello Ward,

    You're damn right. The truth slips out once in a while!

    Watch Creepy Uncle Joe get the D nomination. I'll laugh myself right out
    of my chair. Obama made some good gaffes but Biden takes the cake.

    My opinion, during the next election the voters should collectively refuse to vote if these are the only candidates ... and I'm talking either party.

    Let's suppose - just for the sake of argument - that neither
    Trump nor Biden receive any electoral votes based on popular vote.
    What would happen?

    Would a candidate (not a Democrat or Republican) who won 270
    electoral votes by popular vote be awarded those electoral votes?

    Since all state legislatures are controlled by either Democrats
    or Republicans, it appears very unlikely that any third party or
    independent candidate would be awarded any electors. Even if
    that candidate would have totally wiped out the field, winning
    all 538 electoral votes by popular vote.

    In order to test this theory, I suggest Santa Claus run for prez.

    --Lee

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, August 29, 2019 03:09:31
    In order to test this theory, I suggest Santa Claus run for prez.

    Impossible, he's not a natural born American.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:25:57
    Hello Lee.

    29 Aug 19 01:42, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    Would a candidate (not a Democrat or Republican) who won 270
    electoral votes by popular vote be awarded those electoral votes?

    More than likely not because an electoral voter doesn't have to cast their vote
    for the popular vote. There are state laws, such as in Wisconsin, that are to
    mandate that an Electoral College member has to vote for the popular vote but it's believed that these laws are actually unenforcable (I can't find anything else about this).

    People forget that the US is a constitutional republic and not a democracy.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Saturday, August 31, 2019 05:54:27
    Hello Ward,

    In order to test this theory, I suggest Santa Claus run for prez.

    Impossible, he's not a natural born American.

    Oh, come now. If Bullwinkle the Moose were on the ballot
    he would beat Trump.

    That's right. Bullwinkle the Moose. Born and bred right here
    in the US of A. Along with his assistant, Rocky Squirrel.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Sean Dennis on Saturday, August 31, 2019 05:54:34
    Hello Sean,

    Would a candidate (not a Democrat or Republican) who won 270
    electoral votes by popular vote be awarded those electoral votes?

    More than likely not because an electoral voter doesn't have to cast their vote for the popular vote.

    The courts ruled that to be the case only within the past week
    or so. An unfaithful elector cannot be replaced with another elector
    after the elector had been selected, thus meaning an elector is free
    to vote for whoever he/she chooses.

    However, just because the popular vote indirectly chooses the
    electors does not mean those electors get to vote for the candidate
    the people have indirectly voted for.

    Since we have a two-party system firmly in place, and the state
    legislatures of all 50 states (and the municipality of DC) are
    controlled by either Democrats or Republicans, no candidate who
    is not a member of either party is unlikely to be elected by
    the electors who are chosen to elect the president.

    State legislatures decide who the electors are.

    There are state laws, such as in Wisconsin, that are to mandate that an Electoral College member has to vote for the popular vote but it's
    believed
    that these laws are actually unenforcable (I can't find anything else
    about
    this).

    None of that matters. The courts have ruled the electors are free
    to vote for whoever they want. Meaning the electors are free to
    ignore anything and everything others might want them to do.

    Presidential elections are governed by the US Constitution, not
    state law. States cannot go outside those bounds.

    People forget that the US is a constitutional republic and not a
    democracy.

    A "mixed government rooted in a Republic" would be a better way
    of describing what the USA has. Certainly not a direct democracy,
    which would be mob rule.

    The US Constitution, Section 1-3, lays out the structure of government.

    The US Constitution, Section 4, guarantees all states a republican
    form of government.

    The Bill of Rights, Amendment I, enhances certain rights of
    individuals not stated elsewhere.

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed39.asp


    The Federalist Papers: No. 39 (James Madison)

    A constitutional republic would not be accurate in describing
    the US form of government, as a constitutional republic could be
    a monarchy - which is something the US most certainly is not.

    However. one can say it is a constitutional federal republic.

    A far cry from a democratic republic.

    Which is what North Korea wants to call itself.

    --Lee

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, August 31, 2019 10:33:02
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    The courts ruled that to be the case only within the past week
    or so. An unfaithful elector cannot be replaced with another elector after the elector had been selected, thus meaning an elector is free
    to vote for whoever he/she chooses.

    Wasn't there an issue with this during the last election? I remember
    hearing something about that a while ago.

    However, just because the popular vote indirectly chooses the
    electors does not mean those electors get to vote for the candidate
    the people have indirectly voted for.

    That's something that today's generation needs to learn.

    State legislatures decide who the electors are.

    I think we need to go back to allowing the state legislatures to appoint senators also.

    A "mixed government rooted in a Republic" would be a better way
    of describing what the USA has. Certainly not a direct democracy,
    which would be mob rule.

    I use the term as shorthand; it's these people that don't realize that.
    It's amazing how dense people are about civics these days even amongst
    people in my own age group.

    However. one can say it is a constitutional federal republic.

    I'll agree with you on that.

    A far cry from a democratic republic.
    Which is what North Korea wants to call itself.

    There's several countries, IIRC, that have "Democratic Republic" in
    their names and they all share the fact that they are anything but.

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to WARD DOSSCHE on Saturday, August 31, 2019 13:13:06
    You're damn right. The truth slips out once in a while!

    Watch Creepy Uncle Joe get the D nomination. I'll laugh myself
    right out
    of my chair. Obama made some good gaffes but Biden takes the cake.

    My opinion, during the next election the voters should collectively
    refuse to
    vote if these are the only candidates ... and I'm talking either party.


    I've been saying that for years.

    I like the idea of forbidding incumbent politicians from running for
    office until they've beeb out of office for at least one term
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Bob Ackley on Saturday, August 31, 2019 23:35:00
    BOB ACKLEY wrote to WARD DOSSCHE <=-

    I like the idea of forbidding incumbent politicians from running for office until they've beeb out of office for at least one term

    Are there enough honest people left to do that? :D

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, September 01, 2019 11:38:41
    I like the idea of forbidding incumbent politicians from running for SD>BA> office until they've beeb out of office for at least one term

    Are there enough honest people left to do that? :D

    A politician does not have to be honest, but effective.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ward Dossche on Sunday, September 01, 2019 12:14:08
    Ward Dossche wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    A politician does not have to be honest, but effective.

    True and a good politician, when bought, stays bought.

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Sean Dennis on Monday, September 02, 2019 18:37:40
    Hello Sean,

    I like the idea of forbidding incumbent politicians from running for
    office until they've beeb out of office for at least one term

    Are there enough honest people left to do that? :D

    "Why not the best?" ~Jimmy Carter

    "I will never lie to you." ~Jimmy Carter

    Jimmy Carter.
    One term governor of Georgia.
    One term POTUS.
    What a guy.
    94 years young.

    Let's bring back Carter!

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Monday, September 02, 2019 18:37:52
    Hello Ward,

    I like the idea of forbidding incumbent politicians from running for
    office until they've beeb out of office for at least one term

    Are there enough honest people left to do that? :D

    A politician does not have to be honest, but effective.

    Trump is neither and wins and wins and wins. Why?
    Because Trump is always right. And never apologizes.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Sean Dennis on Monday, September 02, 2019 18:38:04
    Hello Sean,

    A politician does not have to be honest, but effective.

    True and a good politician, when bought, stays bought.

    Louisiana has the best politicians that money can buy.

    Although (to be honest) some states may disagree ...

    --Lee

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