• Synchronet?

    From HusTler@1:103/705 to All on Saturday, August 03, 2019 14:51:07
    Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were
    laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Saturday, August 03, 2019 15:55:14
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Aug 03 2019 14:51:07

    Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?

    This sort of thing happens from time to time. One or both parties using the name would have to take
    issue with the other, and enact some sort of legal challenge. I can't imagine that DM is going to do
    that, and I doubt if the other guys are worried that they're losing business because people are starting
    up a BBS instead of using their products/services.

    How big of a problem the sharing of a name is depends on how confusing it is to
    the public (consumers).
    Here's an article I just skimmed on the topic:

    https://www.upcounsel.com/likelihood-of-confusion-factors

    "Relatedness of the Products" is probably paramount here. However, there have been big disputes between
    companies with (at the time) very unrelated businesses:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

    Closer to your question (an open source project vs. some company), here's a story about how such a
    dispute spiralled into big problems a few years ago:

    https://tinyurl.com/yxatjbum

    Another story about name confusion:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._MikeRoweSoft

    Anyway, I don't think some company is going to change their name if we ask them
    politely, and apart from
    some cluttering of search results it doesn't seem like much of a problem.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to echicken on Saturday, August 03, 2019 14:45:07
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: echicken to HusTler on Sat Aug 03 2019 03:55 pm

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Aug 03 2019 14:51:07

    Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by
    others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone
    has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right?
    synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights??
    I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this
    company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?

    This sort of thing happens from time to time. One or both parties using the
    name would have to take issue with the other, and enact some
    sort of legal challenge. I can't imagine that DM is going to do that, and I
    doubt if the other guys are worried that they're losing
    business because people are starting up a BBS instead of using their
    products/services.

    How big of a problem the sharing of a name is depends on how confusing it is
    to the public (consumers). Here's an article I just skimmed
    on
    the topic:

    https://www.upcounsel.com/likelihood-of-confusion-factors

    "Relatedness of the Products" is probably paramount here. However, there
    have been big disputes between companies with (at the time)
    very
    unrelated businesses:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

    Closer to your question (an open source project vs. some company), here's a
    story about how such a dispute spiralled into big problems a
    few
    years ago:

    https://tinyurl.com/yxatjbum

    Another story about name confusion:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._MikeRoweSoft

    Anyway, I don't think some company is going to change their name if we ask
    them politely, and apart from some cluttering of search
    results
    it doesn't seem like much of a problem.

    what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based on copyright infringement.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 03, 2019 17:54:45
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Aug 03 2019 14:45:07

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

    what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based on copyright infringement.

    Yes, what about that famous example I linked to in the message you're replying to.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Saturday, August 03, 2019 18:07:35
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: echicken to HusTler on Sat Aug 03 2019 03:55 pm

    Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has

    This sort of thing happens from time to time. One or both parties using the name would have to take

    How big of a problem the sharing of a name is depends on how confusing it is to the public (consumers).
    Here's an article I just skimmed on the topic:

    Another story about name confusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._MikeRoweSoft

    Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it's disrespecful to use a pre-exisiting name. Years ago I tried to register a business name for tax purposes and because it was similar to an existing business I was asked not to use it. I have no idea what the "rules" are on the world wide web. Thanks for your reply.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Saturday, August 03, 2019 19:39:25
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: HusTler to echicken on Sat Aug 03 2019 18:07:35

    Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it's

    How embarrassing that would be for all of us. Maybe you should leave actions like that up to DM?

    disrespecful to use a pre-exisiting name. Years ago I tried to register a

    The one in Buffalo is just one of many Synchronets. They were founded in 1998.
    It's entirely possible
    that at the time, they could not as quickly or easily find out that "Synchronet" was in use elsewhere or
    belonged to a (by then defunct?) company in California. Even if they knew it was the name of a BBS
    package, they might have felt it sufficiently different from their area of business that there should be
    no confusion.

    Next up you've got SynchroNet of synchronet.com, and I guarantee you that they don't give a shit about
    some open source BBS package already having the name. Or they might care enough to tell *us* to stop
    using it.

    Of course there's also http://synchronet.co/, purveyors of fine shipping container solutions.

    Or this networking company: http://www.synchronet.org/

    Or this supply chain thing: https://www.synchronet.eu/

    I wonder if all of these groups are mad at each other for poaching the name.

    business name for tax purposes and because it was similar to an existing business I was asked not to use it. I have no idea what the "rules" are on the world wide web. Thanks for your reply.

    The web and the internet at large are not a wild west, and activities there are
    generally subject to the
    same rules as anywhere else.

    Consider if your attempt to use that name hadn't been rejected, you'd had letterhead, business cards,
    signage printed up, bought a domain, built up some recognition, and maybe been in business for 20+ years.
    Then some guy comes along and tells you that you should change your company name because it overlaps
    with something in their esoteric hobby. Your reaction would be, what, "Okay, no problem, I'll change my
    company's name"?

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to HusTler on Saturday, August 03, 2019 17:30:55
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:51 pm

    Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?

    Most of the time, I've searched for "Synchronet BBS software" or similar, and my searches have always led me to the Synchronet BBS software. So it hasn't really bothered me, and actually I hadn't noticed this Synchronet IT company. But it seems like Apple records vs. Apple computer company (which also hosts music now too). I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure how it all works, or if Rob Swindell has ever registered the name Synchronet or anything.

    Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's) phone.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to e on Saturday, August 03, 2019 17:32:34
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:45 pm

    what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based on copyright infringement.

    I don't think Apple (computer company) infringed on any copyrights. They just have a similar name, and now that Apple (computer company) also hosts music, it could be confusing to consumers, which I think is the real issue.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 03, 2019 18:25:33
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to e on Sat Aug 03 2019 05:32 pm

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:45 pm

    what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based
    on copyright infringement.

    I don't think Apple (computer company) infringed on any copyrights. They
    just have a similar name, and now that Apple (computer company)
    also hosts music, it could be confusing to consumers, which I think is the
    real issue.

    Nightfox

    well they settled by licensing their beatles catalogue as a way to try to make amends. Apple jumped at the idea and came on board.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 00:14:31
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sat Aug 03 2019 05:30 pm

    Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's) phone.

    Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps
    that's what you're thinking of?

    digital man

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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to Digital Man on Sunday, August 04, 2019 04:20:40
    Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

    Could be, but there was no lawsuit. There was a financial agreement reached between Cisco and Apple when Apple approached Cisco about licensing the name.

    Funny enough, Cisco also owned the rights to the name iPhone. Linksys
    produced the WIP-300 which was a cordless SIP phone that was called the
    Linksys Iphone. Cisco picked up the rights when they purchased Linksys.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sunday, August 04, 2019 03:25:28
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:14 am

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sat Aug 03 2019 05:30 pm

    Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a network-enabled
    phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple
    negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's)
    phone.

    Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS.
    Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #3:
    How much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.
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    inches rain/24hrs

    that's what i use on the ipad, IOS. it's 12.4 at the moment with 13 coming out in the fall sometime.

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to HusTler on Sunday, August 04, 2019 14:55:04
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:51 pm


    Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?



    there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc

    usually someone can use the same name if it's an unrelated industry.
    my company has some products that have the same names as other things.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to HusTler on Sunday, August 04, 2019 15:05:13
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: HusTler to echicken on Sat Aug 03 2019 06:07 pm

    Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it's disrespecful to use a pre-exisiting name. Years ago I tried to register a business name for tax purposes and because it was similar to an existing business I was asked not to use it. I have no idea what the "rules" are on the world wide web. Thanks for your reply.


    no, just please stay out of it.

    it's not your software and it's just going to create problems.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:07:26
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:14 am

    Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a
    network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple
    negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's)
    phone.

    Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

    I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on that:
    https://bit.ly/2GIy93p
    Full link: https://www.networkworld.com/article/2855570/remember-when-cisco-sued-apple-ove r-the-iphone-name.html

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:21:16
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:25 am

    that's what i use on the ipad, IOS.

    Really, iOS on an iPad? ;)
    I think iOS is the only OS you can use on an iPad.. though I suppose it may be possible to install Linux or something on a jailbroken iPad.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:26:00
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 04 2019 02:55 pm

    there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc

    (tm) is for a trademark, which I'm pretty sure is different than a copyright (if perhaps only slightly).

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 18:11:48
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:21 pm

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:25 am

    that's what i use on the ipad, IOS.

    Really, iOS on an iPad? ;)
    I think iOS is the only OS you can use on an iPad.. though I suppose it may
    be possible to install Linux or something on a jailbroken
    iPad.

    Nightfox

    i would try it but dont know much on that area.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:27:29
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:05 pm

    Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it's
    no, just please stay out of it.

    it's not your software and it's just going to create problems.
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    Relax..I'm kidding. I've got better things to do. ;-)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 19:42:26
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:07 pm

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:14 am

    Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a
    network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple
    negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's)
    phone.

    Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

    I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on that:
    https://bit.ly/2GIy93p
    Full link: https://www.networkworld.com/article/2855570/remember-when-cisco- sued-apple-ove r-the-iphone-name.html

    Oh wow, an IPhone and an IOS! Wow.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 19:51:20
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:26 pm

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 04 2019 02:55 pm

    there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc

    (tm) is for a trademark, which I'm pretty sure is different than a copyright (if perhaps only slightly).

    You Trade Mark a name.
    You Copyright a piece of copyable work.
    You Patent an invention/idea.

    digital man

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:51:51
    Re: Synchronet?
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:26 pm

    Re: Synchronet?
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 04 2019 02:55 pm

    there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc

    (tm) is for a trademark, which I'm pretty sure is different than a copyright (if perhaps only slightly).



    you're being autistic again.
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 16:10:00
    I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on N>that:

    The CISCO phone I have is used with a party line setup for amateur
    radio operators called "HamShack Hotline". The service is free, but you
    have to purchase, and "provision" the phone.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Thursday, August 15, 2019 19:17:00
    On 08-13-19 16:10, Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on
    that:

    The CISCO phone I have is used with a party line setup for amateur
    radio operators called "HamShack Hotline". The service is free, but you have to purchase, and "provision" the phone.

    I'm on the HHX server, using the VoIP PBX in my router. :)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Friday, August 16, 2019 18:17:00
    Tony,
    The CISCO phone I have is used with a party line setup for amateur radio operators called "HamShack Hotline". The service is free, but you have to purchase, and "provision" the phone.

    I'm on the HHX server, using the VoIP PBX in my router. :)

    I only have a couple of contacts in my HamShack Hotline address book
    right now. But, with the death of my Mom a week ago, I've had far more important fish to fry.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, August 17, 2019 18:31:00
    On 08-16-19 18:17, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I'm on the HHX server, using the VoIP PBX in my router. :)

    I only have a couple of contacts in my HamShack Hotline address book right now. But, with the death of my Mom a week ago, I've had far more important fish to fry.

    I'm getting a bit like that, with a very close friend who's been in and out of hospital with cancer. Got some more bad news today. :(

    As for HH, I haven't used it beyond testing with some of the conference servers, but I figured it might come in handy sometime. It's setup to work alongside my other VoIP services.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Sunday, August 18, 2019 09:39:00
    Tony,

    I'm getting a bit like that, with a very close friend who's been in and out TL>hospital with cancer. Got some more bad news today. :(

    I don't think any family has escaped that scourge. I lost an uncle to
    colon cancer...my grandmother to lung cancer...plus my Dad and his
    sister to pancreatic cancer. My wife died of a heart attack (she had a defective aortic heart valve since birth), and it was congestive heart
    failure that killed my Mom.

    Not to be macabre, but none of us is getting any younger.

    As for HH, I haven't used it beyond testing with some of the conference TL>servers, but I figured it might come in handy sometime. It's setup to work TL>alongside my other VoIP services.

    I've got to get with a fellow ham via HH on an issue I have with my
    Lenovo Laptop with Windows 10 64-bit (the BBS computer, and what was my
    late Mom's computer, have Windows 10 32-bit). It sees the wireless
    mouse, but it doesn't respond to it...depending on the thumb pad
    instead. At least it recognized the external keyboard.

    I originally had a laptop with Windows Vista Basic, that I got at a
    good deal at a regional hamfest. I was able to put Windows 7 on it, but
    it crashed when I tried to put Windows 10 on it.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Monday, August 19, 2019 17:29:00
    On 08-18-19 09:39, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I don't think any family has escaped that scourge. I lost an uncle to colon cancer...my grandmother to lung cancer...plus my Dad and his
    sister to pancreatic cancer. My wife died of a heart attack (she had a defective aortic heart valve since birth), and it was congestive heart failure that killed my Mom.

    Yes, both Mum's parents died from some form of cancer. Lung cancer in the case of my grandmother, and bone cancer for my grandfather, IIRC. On Dad's side of the family, his father died from complications of heart surgery. Can't recall what his mother died from.

    Not to be macabre, but none of us is getting any younger.

    True, though I should have a fair few years left. :)

    I've got to get with a fellow ham via HH on an issue I have with my Lenovo Laptop with Windows 10 64-bit (the BBS computer, and what was my late Mom's computer, have Windows 10 32-bit). It sees the wireless
    mouse, but it doesn't respond to it...depending on the thumb pad
    instead. At least it recognized the external keyboard.

    Ahh, OK. well HH is ideal for those international calls between hams. I remember fury rigging things through VoIP at cheap rates, and at one stage, I did have an extension on a PBX that a friend ran in the US, but now HH can fit the bill for a lot of these things. :)

    I originally had a laptop with Windows Vista Basic, that I got at a
    good deal at a regional hamfest. I was able to put Windows 7 on it, but
    it crashed when I tried to put Windows 10 on it.

    I probably should upgrade this to Windows 10 sometime. It's been running Windows 7 since I bought it. Windows 10 hadn't quite been released then.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 02:22:00
    Tony,

    Yes, both Mum's parents died from some form of cancer. Lung cancer in the c TL>of my grandmother, and bone cancer for my grandfather, IIRC. On Dad's side TL>the family, his father died from complications of heart surgery. Can't reca TL>what his mother died from.

    Probably because their heart stopped. :P

    True, though I should have a fair few years left. :)

    I would hope so as well.

    Ahh, OK. well HH is ideal for those international calls between hams. I TL>remember fury rigging things through VoIP at cheap rates, and at one stage, TL>did have an extension on a PBX that a friend ran in the US, but now HH can f TL>the bill for a lot of these things. :)

    Some Net Controls use it similar to the D-Rats application on nets, as
    a chat room with the NCO's -- especially considering security issues
    with the Telegram app.

    I probably should upgrade this to Windows 10 sometime. It's been running TL>Windows 7 since I bought it. Windows 10 hadn't quite been released then.

    The ONLY reason I upgraded, was because of security issues. Yet, 10
    boots faster than 7 did.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 18:19:00
    On 08-20-19 02:22, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    Yes, both Mum's parents died from some form of cancer. Lung cancer in the

    of my grandmother, and bone cancer for my grandfather, IIRC. On Dad's side
    the family, his father died from complications of heart surgery. Can't
    eca
    what his mother died from.

    Probably because their heart stopped. :P

    No, from memory the complication was actually in the bowel. It's been 25 years, and I can't recall the details now.

    True, though I should have a fair few years left. :)

    I would hope so as well.

    I'm in pretty good condition for 51 too. :)

    Some Net Controls use it similar to the D-Rats application on nets,
    as a chat room with the NCO's -- especially considering security issues with the Telegram app.

    Yeah, that would be a good use for the HH system, though for me, text mode allows a more full duplex operation - I'm capable of reading while actually on air, while it's harder to handle multiple voice sources.

    I probably should upgrade this to Windows 10 sometime. It's been running
    Windows 7 since I bought it. Windows 10 hadn't quite been released then.

    The ONLY reason I upgraded, was because of security issues. Yet, 10 boots faster than 7 did.

    Yeah, the Windows 10 machines I've used have run very well.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Thursday, August 22, 2019 17:10:00
    Tony,

    No, from memory the complication was actually in the bowel. It's been 25 TL>years, and I can't recall the details now.

    Sounds like a twisted colon.

    I'm in pretty good condition for 51 too. :)

    And, I thought I was a puppy with turning 60 next March. <G>

    Yeah, that would be a good use for the HH system, though for me, text mode TL>allows a more full duplex operation - I'm capable of reading while actually TL>air, while it's harder to handle multiple voice sources.

    Telegram had some security issues recently...and after a falling out
    with net controls on the VoIP Hurricane Prep Net, and the Southeast US
    D-Star Weather Net over "early checkins", among other things, I resigned
    as Net Control. I do the D-Rats checkins on the Southeast US D-Star
    Weather Net, but no longer monitor the voice reflector during the net.

    Yeah, the Windows 10 machines I've used have run very well.

    Once you get everything working OK, all is well. Of course, Microsoft
    comes along with an update that FUBAR's everything. :P

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:28:00
    On 08-22-19 17:10, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    No, from memory the complication was actually in the bowel. It's been 25
    years, and I can't recall the details now.

    Sounds like a twisted colon.

    Possibly, I never really heard the full details.

    I'm in pretty good condition for 51 too. :)

    And, I thought I was a puppy with turning 60 next March. <G>

    Hahaha, I don't feel anywhere near my 50s. :)

    Telegram had some security issues recently...and after a falling out with net controls on the VoIP Hurricane Prep Net, and the Southeast US D-Star Weather Net over "early checkins", among other things, I
    resigned as Net Control. I do the D-Rats checkins on the Southeast US D-Star Weather Net, but no longer monitor the voice reflector during
    the net.

    I just haven't been able to make net time. My sporting commitments have now taken over Sunday mrnings, since the fie brigade moved their training day to a weeknight.

    Yeah, the Windows 10 machines I've used have run very well.

    Once you get everything working OK, all is well. Of course, Microsoft comes along with an update that FUBAR's everything. :P

    Yeah, typical. :D

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    When does it expire?? :P

    Never. :D

    Daryl

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