• chat

    From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to digital man on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 20:15:30
    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 20:18:56
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to report?

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 04:22:10
    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to report?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #36:
    Bobbi Flekman: Money talks, and bullshit walks.
    Norco, CA WX: 77.7F, 50.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run
    correctly?

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:11:35
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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?


    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that prevent
    all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet users?

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:41:46
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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 20:15:30

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    This is among the shittiest questions ever asked. Could you at least try describing the
    problem that you think needs fixing?

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:00:00
    HusTler wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??

    No (but they can be).

    Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from
    other Dovenet users?

    No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
    douchebag.

    Hope this helps!


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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:05:29
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    Re: chat
    By: HusTler to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:11:35

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet users?

    No. In most cases it's best (when starting a new thread) to post your message to "All",
    unless you think only one specific person can answer your question.

    As these are public messages, the "To" field is informative but doesn't mean that nobody
    else can/should/will respond. (I think we went over this recently.) Which is not to say
    that DM should be contacted privately with all questions; there are usually some other
    people around who can answer.

    Bear in mind that the tone of your message will often be echoed in the tone of the replies
    that you receive.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 08:07:13
    Re: chat
    By: HusTler to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:11 am

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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?


    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that
    prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other
    Dovenet
    users?

    other people write to him too not only me so get off my case man.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to echicken on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 08:08:19
    Re: chat
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:41 am

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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 20:15:30

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    This is among the shittiest questions ever asked. Could you at least try
    describing the problem that you think needs fixing?

    thank you so much. i appreciate your compliments.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 08:09:20
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Dan Clough to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:00 am

    HusTler wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??

    No (but they can be).

    Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from
    other Dovenet users?

    No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
    douchebag.

    Hope this helps!


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    i agree dan.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to echicken on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 08:11:27
    Re: chat
    By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 11:05 am

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    Re: chat
    By: HusTler to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:11:35

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that
    prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other
    Dovenet users?

    No. In most cases it's best (when starting a new thread) to post your
    message to "All", unless you think only one specific person can
    answer your question.

    As these are public messages, the "To" field is informative but doesn't mean
    that nobody else can/should/will respond. (I think we went
    over this recently.) Which is not to say that DM should be contacted
    privately with all questions; there are usually some other people
    around who can answer.

    Bear in mind that the tone of your message will often be echoed in the tone
    of the replies that you receive.

    a previous message was written about a guy who needed help on atcodes. dont see
    you slaughtering him about it.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:29:55
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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:07:13

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that
    prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet
    users?

    other people write to him too not only me so get off my case man.

    It may have been an honest question on his part, so maybe don't overreact and maybe get off
    of *his* case, man.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:36:58
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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:08:19

    thank you so much. i appreciate your compliments.

    You may have noticed that after nearly every question you ask comes a series of
    replies
    where people try to tease out further details so that they can figure out what you're
    talking about.

    When reporting a problem or asking for something to be fixed, it's extremely helpful to
    provide details. In this specific case:

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    We know you're talking about "the chat system". This could mean a lot of things. The "Chat
    Section" or any of its subsidiaries such as sysop chat, multinode chat, IRC, the IBBS
    message module, or even The Guru. So *which* chat feature you're asking about would be
    crucial information.

    Next you are asking if a fix is coming. If "the chat system" was altogether broken and
    didn't work at all, then fine, the whole thing needs fixing. Otherwise, a fix would address
    a particular problem. DM may or may not know about any existing problem(s), so
    describing
    the issue - telling him *which* problem - is also crucial information.

    You're welcome and I'm glad you appreciate my compliments. You may get some blowback from
    time to time, but we're still trying to help you. Maybe do us the courtesy of making that
    job a bit easier - or even possible - to do.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:43:41
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    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:11:27

    a previous message was written about a guy who needed help on atcodes. dont see you slaughtering him about it.

    I think my reply to Hustler was fairly polite. If you could point me to where the
    "slaughtering" happened I'll be happy to review and consider changing my approach.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:03:27
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    Re: chat
    By: HusTler to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:11 am

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM?? Would that prevent all the useless derogatory feedback I get from other Dovenet users?

    Personally, I often address Synchronet questions to DM unless I think there's a
    good chance other sysops may have faced the same issue.

    Nightfox

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 14:50:54
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    Re: Re: chat
    By: Dan Clough to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:00 am


    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??
    No (but they can be).

    No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
    douchebag.

    Learn how to speak English fuck wad.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:32:15
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    Re: Re: chat
    By: HusTler to Dan Clough on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:50 pm

    No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
    douchebag.

    Learn how to speak English fuck wad.

    Wow.. I think his statement was just confirmed.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 14:15:01
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run correctly?

    I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 14:17:59
    Re: chat
    By: HusTler to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:11 am

    Are questions in this area supposed to be addressed to DM??

    No.


    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #38:
    Artie Fufkin: I'm not asking, I'm telling with this. Kick my ass.
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 17:39:10
    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it
    wouldnt run correctly?

    I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #33:
    Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy?
    Norco, CA WX: 95.4F, 25.0% humidity, 9 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 18:09:27
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run correctly?

    I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat system".

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #10:
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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 20:03:00
    HusTler wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    No, what would prevent that is for you to not act like such a
    douchebag.

    Learn how to speak English fuck wad.

    LOL! Would you mind telling me what was wrong with the English I
    used there above, shit-for-brains?



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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 18:54:21
    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:09 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug
    to

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it
    wouldnt run correctly?

    I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it
    would like freeze up. it was weird.

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat system".

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #10:
    Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year... just not widely
    reported. Norco, CA WX: 90.7F, 23.0% humidity, 9 mph NE wind, 0.00
    inches rain/24hrs

    but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 19:20:11
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:54 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:09 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have a bug to

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program and it wouldnt run correctly?

    I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat system".

    but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.

    Okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a Synchronet problem. And what does this have to do with the "chat system"?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #32:
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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 22:25:21
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 18:54:21

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
    system".

    but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.

    You would just be running it as a door though, wouldn't you? It may be a chat program, but it's just
    another External Program as far as Synchronet is concerned.

    Try setting it up once you get your BBS going and see what happens. If there are problems, in all
    likelihood there are other doors with similar ones, and similar solutions.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 20:57:17
    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 07:20 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:54 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:09 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 02:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 04:22 am

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 13 2019 08:18
    pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Tue Aug 13 2019
    08:15 pm

    hey dm. is there a fix coming to the chat system?

    I'm not aware of something that needs fixing. Do you have
    a bug to

    well remember when we wanted to use an external chat program
    and it wouldnt run correctly?

    I don't recall that. What were the details? And who's "we"?

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat
    and it would like freeze up. it was weird.

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
    system".

    but icechat worked on ra and ezycom flawlessly.

    Okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a Synchronet problem. And what
    does this have to do with the "chat system"?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #32:
    Derek Smalls: [A jog?] We don't have time for that.
    Norco, CA WX: 87.4F, 28.0% humidity, 13 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    you had option for an external chat program but i havent seen one yet. why is that?

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 21:11:54
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:57 pm

    Okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a Synchronet problem. And what does this have to do with the "chat system"?

    you had option for an external chat program but i havent seen one yet.

    There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any external program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to "Local/Sysop Chat".

    why is that?

    Why is what?

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 21:15:19
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and it would like freeze up. it was weird.

    It would have been useful if you had included that information in your original
    post about this.. There's a reason people tend to be clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more information.

    I've tried running IceChat, and after a while it would just quit. I have a feeling that's more a problem with IceChat.. Synchronet's own chat system is fine.

    When I used RemoteAccess back in the 90s, I remember RemoteAccess being able to
    use an external sysop-user chat tool, and I had it set up to use IceChat for that. Synchronet doesn't have a similar feature, but it could be useful.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 21:17:45
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:54 pm

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
    system".


    Eh, I think that has more to do with the operating system it's running on than the BBS software. The BBS software has no control over the stability of 3rd-party doors. These days, people are running BBSes on modern versions of Windows and Linux, and IceChat is an old DOS door. There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating systems.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 21:20:12
    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:11 pm

    There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any external program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to "Local/Sysop Chat".

    Is that "Local/Sysop Chat" option new? Maybe I missed it in the commit log messages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought about setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I broke into chat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support that. I remember seeing it on your to-do list too. But it looks like that might be supported now?

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 22:29:13
    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:20 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:11 pm

    There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any external program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to "Local/Sysop Chat".

    Is that "Local/Sysop Chat" option new?

    If you consider 6-years-old to be "new" (I do). :-)

    Maybe I missed it in the commit log
    messages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought about setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I broke into chat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support that.

    Well it's long had the external sysop chat pager thing, but user had to initiate that.

    I remember seeing
    it on your to-do list too. But it looks like that might be supported now?

    Yup.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thursday, August 15, 2019 07:58:18
    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and
    it would like freeze up. it was weird.

    It would have been useful if you had included that information in your
    original post about this.. There's a reason people tend to be
    clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more information.

    I've tried running IceChat, and after a while it would just quit. I have a
    feeling that's more a problem with IceChat.. Synchronet's
    own
    chat system is fine.

    When I used RemoteAccess back in the 90s, I remember RemoteAccess being able
    to use an external sysop-user chat tool, and I had it set up
    to
    use IceChat for that. Synchronet doesn't have a similar feature, but it
    could be useful.

    Nightfox

    thats what i am talking about nf but dm doesnt understand me.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thursday, August 15, 2019 08:00:00
    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:17 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:54 pm

    That sounds like a problem with icechat, not the Synchronet "chat
    system".


    Eh, I think that has more to do with the operating system it's running on
    than the BBS software. The BBS software has no control over
    the
    stability of 3rd-party doors. These days, people are running BBSes on
    modern versions of Windows and Linux, and IceChat is an old DOS
    door.
    There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or built or
    something that makes it unstable on modern operating systems.

    Nightfox

    possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its compatible to synchronet.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thursday, August 15, 2019 08:01:31
    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:20 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:11 pm

    There's External Sysop Chat Pagers in SCFG->Chat Features. And any
    external program configured in SCFG->External Programs->Online
    Programs can be configured for Execute on Event to be set to
    "Local/Sysop Chat".

    Is that "Local/Sysop Chat" option new? Maybe I missed it in the commit log
    messages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought
    about
    setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I broke into
    chat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support
    that. I remember seeing it on your to-do list too. But it looks like that
    might be supported now?

    Nightfox

    lets keep our fingers crossed on that one nf.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thursday, August 15, 2019 09:36:08
    Re: chat
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 14 2019 10:29 pm

    Maybe I missed it in the commit log
    messages.. When I initially set up Synchronet, I thought about
    setting up IceChat as an external sysop-user chat door for when I
    broke into chat with a user, but at the time Synchronet didn't support
    that.

    Well it's long had the external sysop chat pager thing, but user had to initiate that.

    I wasn't thinking of the pager thing.. IceChat had a command line where it could be launched directly into sysop-user chat from the BBS when you (the sysop) wanted to break into chat with the user.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 15, 2019 09:43:35
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Aug 15 2019 07:58 am

    thats what i am talking about nf but dm doesnt understand me.

    That's because you don't include enough information in your initial posts. When you just ask "Will the Synchronet chat system be fixed?", there's no context for your question, and nobody knew what you were talking about. You should include more information when you ask questions so that people aren't confused.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:58:23
    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 09:43 am

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Aug 15 2019 07:58 am

    thats what i am talking about nf but dm doesnt understand me.

    That's because you don't include enough information in your initial posts.
    When you just ask "Will the Synchronet chat system be
    fixed?",
    there's no context for your question, and nobody knew what you were talking
    about. You should include more information when you ask
    questions so that people aren't confused.

    Nightfox

    i didnt know how to explain it like you could thats why.

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 15, 2019 20:14:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

    There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
    built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
    systems.

    possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
    compatible to synchronet.

    Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!



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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thursday, August 15, 2019 22:14:27
    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat and i would like freeze up. it was weird.

    It would have been useful if you had included that information in your origi post about this.. There's a reason people tend to be clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more information.


    they are just stupid people who fall into the trap. he's an askhole. he doesnt have a bbs or a real computer to use a bbs or run his own.
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thursday, August 15, 2019 20:54:38
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:14 pm

    The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

    There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
    built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
    systems.

    possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
    compatible to synchronet.

    Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!



    ... Beauty is in the eyes of the beer holder!

    wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Thursday, August 15, 2019 20:57:26
    Re: chat
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:14 pm

    Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:15 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Aug 14 2019 05:39 pm

    some sysops like me back in the last decade wanted to run icechat
    and i would like freeze up. it was weird.

    It would have been useful if you had included that information in your
    origi post about this.. There's a reason people tend to be
    clueless about what you're asking and keep asking you for more
    information.


    they are just stupid people who fall into the trap. he's an askhole. he
    doesnt have a bbs or a real computer to use a bbs or run his
    own.

    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.

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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 16, 2019 01:46:32
    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.

    What does an audio console have to do with Synchronet or bbsing in general?

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 15, 2019 22:33:45
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:54 pm

    There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
    built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
    systems.

    possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
    compatible to synchronet.

    Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!

    wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.

    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript model. Also, normally, a
    separate window is created on the BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window
    (unless the sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Netsurge on Friday, August 16, 2019 09:00:10
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:46 am

    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me
    stupid.

    What does an audio console have to do with Synchronet or bbsing in general?

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    it shows that im not completely stupid.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 09:01:30
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:33 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:54 pm

    There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
    built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
    systems.

    possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
    compatible to synchronet.

    Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!

    wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.

    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from
    the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the
    BBS
    machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript
    model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the BBS
    machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user runs a
    JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the sysop
    selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).

    Nightfox

    have you tried or going to try writing one?

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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 16, 2019 12:36:10
    it shows that im not completely stupid.

    Also not sure what an audio console has to do with the measurement of intelligence.

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 16, 2019 09:08:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    There's probably something with the way IceChat was written or
    built or something that makes it unstable on modern operating
    systems.

    possibly nf. but someone should try writing one then so its
    compatible to synchronet.

    Let us know when you have a version ready for beta testing!

    wish i could i write one but dont understand js too well.

    Well, there are plenty of (free) online training resources
    available. Maybe that would be a good project for you to look in
    to... That way you will be more prepared to customize your BBS
    when you get it going, and/or contribute an addition (chat) to
    SBBS...



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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 16, 2019 09:39:28
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:01 am

    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both
    from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS
    machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's
    JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the
    BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user
    runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the
    sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).

    have you tried or going to try writing one?

    I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've mentioned in Synchronet's JavaScript model.

    Nightfox

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 13:46:19
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:39:28

    have you tried or going to try writing one?

    I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've
    mentioned in Synchronet's
    JavaScript model.

    I wrote a thing a while back that will page you on IRC and let you pull the user into IRC chat. It's not the best solution, and is only really good for some people, but it works for me.

    If I tackled it again, I'd probably have the user-side script connect to a service (JSON-DB perhaps) and let the sysop connect to it from some client application. The sysop-client could be a desktop application, part of the web interface, an IRC bot module, even a mobile app I guess.

    I wouldn't waste time making something designed only to run on the BBS host, since a lot of us now run our boards on headless systems (Raspberry Pi, VPS, some dusty old Dell workstation in the corner). Jumping in front of the keyboard and screen attached to the BBS server isn't an option for everyone.

    What I don't remember is if it's possible to "break into chat" when the user is
    sitting at a prompt in the typical command shell. I vaguely recall something about using the "node sync" event for this.

    All that having been said, I don't even think a sysop pager / chat tool is all that useful. There are plenty of alternatives. It's a part of the classic experience, so maybe worthwhile from that perspective.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to echicken on Friday, August 16, 2019 11:53:52
    Re: Re: chat
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:46 pm

    I wrote a thing a while back that will page you on IRC and let you pull the user into IRC chat. It's not the best solution, and is only really good for some people, but it works for me.

    If I tackled it again, I'd probably have the user-side script connect to a service (JSON-DB perhaps) and let the sysop connect to it from some client application. The sysop-client could be a desktop application, part of the web interface, an IRC bot module, even a mobile app I guess.

    I wouldn't waste time making something designed only to run on the BBS host, since a lot of us now run our boards on headless systems (Raspberry Pi, VPS, some dusty old Dell workstation in the corner). Jumping in front of the keyboard and screen attached to the BBS server isn't an option for everyone.

    Yeah, a desktop and/or mobile app might be a good solution these days. I do have a keyboard & monitor on my BBS machine, but usually I leave the monitor turned off, as I have another desktop I use as my main PC.

    What I don't remember is if it's possible to "break into chat" when the user is sitting at a prompt in the typical command shell. I vaguely recall something about using the "node sync" event for this.

    All that having been said, I don't even think a sysop pager / chat tool is all that useful. There are plenty of alternatives. It's a part of the classic experience, so maybe worthwhile from that perspective.

    Back in the day I talked to some of my BBS users after they paged (or not) and breaking into chat. IceChat was a nice chat door too, and it also had some 'fun' features, like simulating line noise (which would print random charcaters on the screen somewhere).

    With Synchronet, if you break into chat with a user, I don't think it will open
    the chat for them until they press a key, so they might not know you opened a chat when they're idling on the BBS.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 13:33:31
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:39 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:01 am

    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both
    from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS
    machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's
    JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the
    BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user
    runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the
    sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).

    have you tried or going to try writing one?

    I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've
    mentioned in Synchronet's JavaScript model.

    Nightfox

    bring it up to dm about it maybe he will find a fix for it.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 16, 2019 14:14:14
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:33 pm

    I thought about it, but I don't know of a way around the issues I've
    mentioned in Synchronet's JavaScript model.

    bring it up to dm about it maybe he will find a fix for it.

    Some of the things (such as perhaps not being able to accept input from both the BBS machine and the remote user at the same time) are probably by design and not bugs that need to be "fixed".

    I'm not sure how much time I'd have to create a new mod like that right now, but it would be interesting to see.. And as echicken said, there may be better
    solutions, which might allow the sysop to chat with a user on a remote machine.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to echicken on Friday, August 16, 2019 14:16:38
    Re: Re: chat
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:46 pm

    I wouldn't waste time making something designed only to run on the BBS host, since a lot of us now run our boards on headless systems (Raspberry Pi, VPS, some dusty old Dell workstation in the corner). Jumping in front of the keyboard and screen attached to the BBS server isn't an option for everyone.

    I often remote desktop to my BBS machine to do work on SBBS mods on the machine, update nodelists, etc.. So even if you have a headless machine, it could still be potentially useful to have something you can run directly on that machine, if it's set up for some kind of remote desktop (VNC, TeamViewer, Windows Remote Desktop, etc.).

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:22:50
    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:57 pm


    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.


    maybe your knowledge of the trident series 65 is taking up your entire brain capacity.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Netsurge on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:23:23
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:46 am

    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupi

    What does an audio console have to do with Synchronet or bbsing in general?


    he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:23:51
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:33 pm


    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from th remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS machine. I'm n sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript model. Also, normally


    we need to get users to chat with first.
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:34:23
    Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:22 pm

    Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Thu Aug 15 2019 08:57 pm


    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me stupid.


    maybe your knowledge of the trident series 65 is taking up your entire brain
    capacity.

    no just some of it sadly to say.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:35:29
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Netsurge on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:23 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Fri Aug 16 2019 01:46 am

    when you know how to use a trident series 65 then you can call me
    stupi

    What does an audio console have to do with Synchronet or bbsing in
    general?


    he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat

    you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:07:00
    On 08-16-19 14:16, Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-

    I often remote desktop to my BBS machine to do work on SBBS mods on the machine, update nodelists, etc.. So even if you have a headless
    machine, it could still be potentially useful to have something you can run directly on that machine, if it's set up for some kind of remote desktop (VNC, TeamViewer, Windows Remote Desktop, etc.).

    I manage my systems using SSH. A client/server interface would be more useful to me than a local one, because I don't use the GUI locally on the BBS machine.
    That would still work locally too, by connecting to the server side on 127.0.0.1 or ::1.



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  • From Immortal@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 20:04:24
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:33 pm

    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on the BBS machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on the BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless the sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).

    I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway. A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and speakerless? On a system
    running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be accessed? Not to mention we get
    barely any calls anyway. Just leave a message on the BBS or send an email and
    it'll get sent to my phone.

    Immortal

    ... You know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the cake.

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 00:08:47
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm

    he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat

    you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.


    shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's all i'm good for!
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Immortal on Saturday, August 17, 2019 05:48:46
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Immortal to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 08:04 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:33 pm

    A sysop-user chat program would have to be able to accept input both
    from the remote console (from the user) and from the sysop on
    the
    BBS machine. I'm not sure if that can be done with Synchronet's
    JavaScript model. Also, normally, a separate window is created on
    the
    BBS machine for the sysop to interact with the user, but when a user
    runs a JavaScript door, there isn't a separate window (unless
    the
    sysop selects "spy on user" with the SBBS control panel).

    I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway. A
    sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but
    is
    rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and speakerless?
    On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be
    accessed? Not to mention we get barely any calls anyway. Just leave a
    message on the BBS or send an email and it'll get sent to my
    phone.

    Immortal

    ... You know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the cake.

    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i enjoy the old fashioned way of computer communication.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Saturday, August 17, 2019 05:50:23
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:08 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm

    he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat

    you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.


    shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's all
    i'm good for!

    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.

    $ The Millionaire $
    --- SBBSecho 3.08-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Immortal on Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:14:13
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Immortal to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 08:04 pm

    I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway. A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and speakerless?

    You could remote desktop to your BBS machine.

    On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be accessed? Not to

    That's true..

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 13:25:02
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Immortal on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:48 am


    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.



    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
    because you cant get one together after all these years
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 13:25:26
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:50 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:08 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm

    he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in text.dat

    you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.


    shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's al i'm good for!

    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.

    transistor
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:08:12
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Immortal on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:48 am

    I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway.
    A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is
    rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and
    speakerless? On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even
    be accessed? Not to mention we get barely any calls anyway. Just

    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i enjoy the old fashioned way of computer communication.

    Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBS software
    now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc., and there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machine without having a screen
    on all the time. Some people these days even run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although we can remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to have a sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.

    I think it would be kinda cool to be able to chat with a user on a different machine than the BBS is running on. That's something that we couldn't really do back in the old BBS days. Like you, I run a BBS because I enjoy the old-fashioned BBS ways sometimes, but we are also able to do things these days that we couldn't do back then.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to MRO on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:09:15
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm

    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
    i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.

    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
    because you cant get one together after all these years

    You always complain that the only users we have are sysops, and you still find a way to complain when we have a user that isn't a sysop (yet, anyway)..

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:44:14
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Immortal on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:48 am


    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because i
    enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.



    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
    because you cant get one together after all these years

    you know its really funny you saying that since you dont contribute to synchronet except bully people here. are you really that bored?

    $ The Millionaire $
    --- SBBSecho 3.08-Linux
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:45:30
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:50 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:08 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:35 pm

    he should just imagine each of those buttons is a line in
    text.dat

    you wouldnt last 5 minutes in a control room.


    shows how much you know. i've been told i'm a button pusher and that's
    al i'm good for!

    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.

    transistor

    no i meant a component on the mixing console.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:48:43
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:08 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Immortal on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:48 am

    I'm not really sure why we would need such a program anymore anyway.
    A sysop-user chat program was nice to have back in the DOS days but is
    rather pointless in 2019. How many systems are headless and
    speakerless? On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even
    be accessed? Not to mention we get barely any calls anyway. Just

    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
    i enjoy the old fashioned way of computer communication.

    Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBS
    software now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc.,
    and there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machine
    without having a screen on all the time. Some people these
    days
    even run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although we
    can remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to
    have a sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.

    I think it would be kinda cool to be able to chat with a user on a different
    machine than the BBS is running on. That's something that
    we
    couldn't really do back in the old BBS days. Like you, I run a BBS because
    I enjoy the old-fashioned BBS ways sometimes, but we are also
    able to do things these days that we couldn't do back then.

    Nightfox

    true but when internet became more affordable people dismantled their bbses with dialup modems and start doing other things internet wise like me. i use an
    ipad with apps on it.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:49:42
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:09 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm

    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
    i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.

    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs because you cant get one together after all these years

    You always complain that the only users we have are sysops, and you still
    find a way to complain when we have a user that isn't a sysop
    (yet, anyway)..

    Nightfox

    well said man.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 07:44:00
    On 08-17-19 11:14, Nightfox wrote to Immortal <=-

    You could remote desktop to your BBS machine.

    That doesn't have the required interactivity. For example, in the DOS days, the BBS was all that was on the console screen, so any sysop pages were immediately visible (and audible if you had sound enabled). With remote desktop solutions (RDP, VNC, etc), you _may_ (I have seen RDP do this in some limited circumstances) get audio, but the video content can't interrupt your viewing like the old fashioned single tasking BBS could.

    What would suit today's environment better is a client-server console interface, where the console is actually running on a client machine over the network. The console client can then support audio, flashing tray or taskbar icons, popups, whatever attention grabbing method you choose to alert you that there's a user paging you.

    It would also be user to pick up IMs. I receive IMs, but never while I'm actually viewing my BBS session, so I can't reply (the remote user is long gone).

    On a system running sbbs as a daemon how would it even be accessed? Not to

    That's true..

    Via a socket. :)


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Saturday, August 17, 2019 16:32:03
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 07:44 am

    You could remote desktop to your BBS machine.

    That doesn't have the required interactivity. For example, in the DOS days, the BBS was all that was on the console screen, so any sysop pages were immediately visible (and audible if you had sound enabled). With remote desktop solutions (RDP, VNC, etc), you _may_ (I have seen RDP do this in some limited circumstances) get audio, but the video content can't interrupt your viewing like the old fashioned single tasking BBS could.

    I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS machine that way. I've done that before.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 18:11:08
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:48 pm

    Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBS
    software now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc., and
    there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machine
    without having a screen on all the time. Some people these days even
    run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although
    we can remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to have a
    sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.

    true but when internet became more affordable people dismantled their bbses with dialup modems and start doing other things internet wise like me. i use an ipad with apps on it.

    But now some people are BBSing again and we also have newer internet technologies too.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 18:42:27
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:11 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:48 pm

    Well the technology is a little bit different these days. We have BBS
    software now that also offers interfaces via web, FTP, NNTP, etc., and
    there are more peopole these days who run a BBS on a dedicated machine
    without having a screen on all the time. Some people these days even
    run a BBS on a remote server that's not in their home.. So although
    we can remote desktop to our BBS machine, it could be useful to have a
    sysop-user chat program that works a little differently.

    true but when internet became more affordable people dismantled their
    bbses with dialup modems and start doing other things internet
    wise like me. i use an ipad with apps on it.

    But now some people are BBSing again and we also have newer internet
    technologies too.

    Nightfox

    hope bbses never die. it was my first time back in 1983 when i got my first taste of bbsing and never stopped looking back since.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 22:20:26
    On 2019 Aug 16 09:00:10, you wrote to Netsurge:

    it shows that im not completely stupid.

    stupidity and ignorance are two different things... no one here has called you stupid AFAIK...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... Famous last words: "Watch me goose that sleeping dragon!"
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Saturday, August 17, 2019 19:47:35
    Re: chat
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:20 pm




    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 23:04:58
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:09 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 01:25 pm

    then why even bother running a bbs for in the first place? me, because
    i enj the old fashioned way of computer communication.

    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs because you cant get one together after all these years

    You always complain that the only users we have are sysops, and you still fi a way to complain when we have a user that isn't a sysop (yet, anyway)..



    i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts here.

    i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 23:05:51
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:44 pm


    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs
    because you cant get one together after all these years

    you know its really funny you saying that since you dont contribute to synchronet except bully people here. are you really that bored?


    i have contributed a lot of my time, hardwork and money to the bbsing community since 1997.

    i'm not bullying anybody. i'm just saying you're a waste of space.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Saturday, August 17, 2019 23:06:14
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm

    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.

    transistor

    no i meant a component on the mixing console.

    resistor.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 23:07:33
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Sat Aug 17 2019 04:32 pm

    this in some limited circumstances) get audio, but the video content ca interrupt your viewing like the old fashioned single tasking BBS could.

    I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS machine that way. I've done that before.



    i use syncchat. if i want to talk to a user i send them a msg to meet there, or i hijack their session via synchronet and push the button for chat.


    i dont need or want an external chat program beeping or blipping.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:30:00
    On 08-17-19 16:32, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required
    interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS machine that way. I've done that before.

    And what do you see when it's minimised? Can it pop up dialogs to tell you you've been paged? We no longer live on single tasking DOS machines. :)


    ... Sector not found. Kill Program? (Y)es, (N)o, (S)crew it
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 05:17:56
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:05 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:44 pm


    that's funny because you are the only one here not running a bbs because you cant get one together after all these years

    you know its really funny you saying that since you dont contribute to
    synchronet except bully people here. are you really that bored?


    i have contributed a lot of my time, hardwork and money to the bbsing
    community since 1997.

    i'm not bullying anybody. i'm just saying you're a waste of space.

    well i ran my first bbs in 1989. yes i was a great sysop and user as well. had a big rep on a lot of dialup bbses in my community back then.

    $ The Millionaire $
    --- SBBSecho 3.08-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Ernest J Gainey Iii@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 13:56:05
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm

    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
    transistor
    no i meant a component on the mixing console.
    resistor.

    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
    ---
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:04:12
    On 2019 Aug 17 19:47:34, you wrote to me:

    @COLS: 53
    Re: chat
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:20 pm




    $ The Millionaire $
    --- SBBSecho 3.08-Linux
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    did you try to say something? the above is all that arrived here...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Gajan Kristnaskon kaj Felican Novan Jaron." - Esperanto Christmas
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 10:57:31
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:07 pm

    i use syncchat. if i want to talk to a user i send them a msg to meet there, or i hijack their session via synchronet and push the button for chat.

    i dont need or want an external chat program beeping or blipping.

    You don't have to have an external chat program page you. Back in the 90s, I used to have IceChat set up as an external door that RemoteAccess would run when I broke into chat with the user. It didn't have to be used for paging me first.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:00:45
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:30 pm

    I'm not sure what you mean about not having the required
    interactivity.. My idea with the remote desktop was that you can
    still break into chat with the user and talk to them on the BBS
    machine that way. I've done that before.

    And what do you see when it's minimised? Can it pop up dialogs to tell you you've been paged? We no longer live on single tasking DOS machines. :)

    No, there are no pop-up dialogs. But normally, when a user pages you, it plays
    a sound rather than showing a pop-up. So if you want to be able to hear those
    sounds, you can leave your PC speakers on. Also, some remote desktop software
    forwards the remote PC's sounds to your local PC, so even when it's minimized,
    you could hear the user's page sounds.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:02:11
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:04 pm

    i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts here.

    i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.

    Cool story, mro.

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:27:06
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Ernest J Gainey Iii to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 01:56 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm

    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
    transistor
    no i meant a component on the mixing console.
    resistor.

    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...

    well we used to set our vu meters at 0dB@250nW.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:28:09
    Re: chat
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 18 2019 02:04 pm


    On 2019 Aug 17 19:47:34, you wrote to me:

    @COLS: 53
    Re: chat
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:20 pm




    $ The Millionaire $
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    did you try to say something? the above is all that arrived here...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would
    set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Gajan Kristnaskon kaj Felican Novan Jaron." - Esperanto Christmas

    ya but the message screwed up for some reason sorry.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:29:35
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 10:57 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:07 pm

    i use syncchat. if i want to talk to a user i send them a msg to meet
    there, or i hijack their session via synchronet and push the
    button for chat.

    i dont need or want an external chat program beeping or blipping.

    You don't have to have an external chat program page you. Back in the 90s,
    I used to have IceChat set up as an external door that
    RemoteAccess would run when I broke into chat with the user. It didn't have
    to be used for paging me first.

    Nightfox

    yeah i miss those days nf. jeremy landvoigt had some high quality programs he designed.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:30:40
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 11:02 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:04 pm

    i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts
    here.

    i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.

    Cool story, mro.

    ?????

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:23:08
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Ernest J Gainey Iii to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 01:56 pm

    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
    transistor
    no i meant a component on the mixing console.
    resistor.

    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...


    i am starting at the beginning and working my way up incase this goes on for years.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:23:45
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 11:02 am

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:04 pm

    i'm not complaining, captain autistic. just pointing out some facts her

    i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.

    Cool story, mro.


    glad you liked it.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:46:36
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:27 pm


    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...

    well we used to set our vu meters at 0dB@250nW.


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 18, 2019 13:28:22
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:30 pm

    i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an askhole.

    Cool story, mro.

    ?????

    That was sarcasm.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:04:50
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 18 2019 02:46 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:27 pm


    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...

    well we used to set our vu meters at 0dB@250nW.


    that doesnt mean shit if you dont have the correct impedance to the circuit.

    then you know nothing about eecording engineering then, talkhole.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:08:37
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 18 2019 01:28 pm

    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:30 pm

    i wouldnt call millionaire a user or a sysop. i said he's an
    askhole.

    Cool story, mro.

    ?????

    That was sarcasm.

    Nightfox

    ya dark sarcasm for dark(evil) people.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From Ernest J Gainey Iii@1:103/705 to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 18:41:11
    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Sun Aug 18 2019 02:23 pm

    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...
    i am starting at the beginning and working my way up incase this goes on for years.

    Gotcha ;)
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 18, 2019 17:42:31
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 02:08 pm

    ya dark sarcasm for dark(evil) people.

    What? Not sure I see the connection between sarcasm and evil.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Monday, August 19, 2019 17:24:00
    On 08-18-19 11:00, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    No, there are no pop-up dialogs. But normally, when a user pages you,
    it plays a sound rather than showing a pop-up. So if you want to be

    Not much good if the BBS is in a different room. Also, for me, that's not the most appropriate place for sounds anyway. I probably have them disabled. :)

    able to hear those sounds, you can leave your PC speakers on. Also,
    some remote desktop software forwards the remote PC's sounds to your
    local PC, so even when it's minimized, you could hear the user's page sounds.

    I know RDP can do it with some setups, but again, that's not universal. That assumes a Windows host. I run Linux for the BBS on a Pi


    ... An idea is a curious thing. It won't work unless you do.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Monday, August 19, 2019 17:39:00
    On 08-18-19 13:56, Ernest J Gainey Iii wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm

    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
    transistor
    no i meant a component on the mixing console.
    resistor.

    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...

    fader, pan pot?


    ... The trouble with facts is that there are so many of them.
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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to Tony Langdon on Monday, August 19, 2019 10:10:50
    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...

    fader, pan pot?

    Power Switch lol

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://diskshop.ca/scinet

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Monday, August 19, 2019 09:42:33
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Tony Langdon to Ernest J Gainey Iii on Mon Aug 19 2019 05:39 pm


    Re: Re: chat
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:06 pm

    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 02:45 pm
    ok name me one component and i'll believe you then.
    transistor
    no i meant a component on the mixing console.
    resistor.

    I would have gone with knob, slider, switch or button...

    fader, pan pot?


    ... The trouble with facts is that there are so many of them.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51

    those are good ones. gain, remix, eq, sends
    output buss assignments, stereo buss

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Monday, August 19, 2019 09:52:16
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Mon Aug 19 2019 05:24 pm

    I know RDP can do it with some setups, but again, that's not universal. That assumes a Windows host. I run Linux for the BBS on a Pi

    RDP is available for Linux too. We use RDP to remote to some Linux machines where I work.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Monday, August 19, 2019 16:46:00
    Tony,

    ... Sector not found. Kill Program? (Y)es, (N)o, (S)crew it

    Really. Sounds like a Windows utility. <BG>

    Daryl

    ===
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 20:40:00
    On 08-19-19 09:42, The Millionaire wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    those are good ones. gain, remix, eq, sends
    output buss assignments, stereo buss

    Cool. :)


    ... That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 20:55:00
    On 08-19-19 09:52, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: chat
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Mon Aug 19 2019 05:24 pm

    I know RDP can do it with some setups, but again, that's not universal. That assumes a Windows host. I run Linux for the BBS on a Pi

    RDP is available for Linux too. We use RDP to remote to some Linux machines where I work.

    Still not a solution for me.


    ... If a program calls another program a little bugger, isn't it an insult?
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 20:57:00
    On 08-19-19 16:46, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    ... Sector not found. Kill Program? (Y)es, (N)o, (S)crew it

    Really. Sounds like a Windows utility. <BG>

    Haha :D


    ... 98% of all statistics disprove the other 98%!
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 02:25:00
    Tony,

    Not much good if the BBS is in a different room. Also, for me, that's not t TL>most appropriate place for sounds anyway. I probably have them disabled. :)

    I originally would mute the speakers, but sometimes, sounds would come through. When one of the legacy doors does its add-on once a week during nightnly maintenance, it causes a shrill noise to come over the
    speakers, even with the headset mic in. With Windows 7, I had to do a
    reboot to kill the noise. With Windows 10, I just logged back in (the
    screen saver had kicked in), and the noise went away.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 18:20:00
    On 08-20-19 02:25, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    Not much good if the BBS is in a different room. Also, for me, that's not

    most appropriate place for sounds anyway. I probably have them disabled.
    )

    I originally would mute the speakers, but sometimes, sounds would
    come through. When one of the legacy doors does its add-on once a week during nightnly maintenance, it causes a shrill noise to come over the speakers, even with the headset mic in. With Windows 7, I had to do a reboot to kill the noise. With Windows 10, I just logged back in (the screen saver had kicked in), and the noise went away.

    I just use Linux. :D


    ... Where quality is just a word we like to use.
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Thursday, August 22, 2019 17:10:00
    Tony,

    I just use Linux. :D

    You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Friday, August 23, 2019 09:49:44
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Daryl Stout to TONY LANGDON on Thu Aug 22 2019 05:10 pm

    I just use Linux. :D

    You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>

    It could be either penguins or gnus.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 23, 2019 16:02:18
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Daryl Stout to TONY LANGDON on Thu Aug 22 2019 05:10 pm

    It could be either penguins or gnus.

    Nightfox

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    $ The Millionaire $

    What about pens or guns? :-P
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Friday, August 23, 2019 17:02:01
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 2019 04:02 pm

    It could be either penguins or gnus.

    What about pens or guns? :-P

    Linux doesn't use pens or guns as its mascot/logo. The penguin is the mascot of Linux, and there's also the GNU Linux project.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Friday, August 23, 2019 18:15:34
    Re: Re: chat
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 2019 04:02 pm

    Linux doesn't use pens or guns as its mascot/logo. The penguin is the mascot of Linux, and there's also the GNU Linux project.

    Nightfox

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    $ The Millionaire $

    It was a sarcastic remark.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:29:00
    On 08-22-19 17:10, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    I just use Linux. :D

    You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>

    You should know running won't do you any good around me. :P


    ... Does Micro$oft refer to Bill Gate's penis?
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Monday, August 26, 2019 18:50:00
    I just use Linux. :D

    You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>

    It could be either penguins or gnus.

    Well, you can paddle your own g-nu...or no gnus is good gnus. <G>

    Yes, I'm in a nether mood right now, bordering on a breakdown. After
    being my Mom's caregiver for over 2 years...now dealing with her death, funeral, and all the comes with it afterwards, I'm ready to snap.

    I was hoping for a 10 day train trip for ham radio deal in
    mid-September, but after storm damage in June (the money saved for it,
    paid the 10 day hotel bill), and now I have to have a procedure done the
    week of the event, means the trip wasn't meant to be.

    The insurance company said "since the house had running water, and no
    other damage, it was still livable". However, with no power or air conditioning, inside temperatures were over 100 degrees...people die in
    that every day. To them, it's catastrophic, if they have to pay a
    claim...even if it's the first one in 25 years.

    Daryl
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Monday, August 26, 2019 18:25:00
    Tony,

    I just use Linux. :D

    You have a fetish for penguins, I see. <g,d,r>

    You should know running won't do you any good around me. :P

    So much for "TAG!! YOU'RE IT!!". :P

    ... Does Micro$oft refer to Bill Gate's penis?

    It's just a big phallacy. <BG>

    Daryl
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 09:41:40
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Mon Aug 26 2019 06:50 pm

    Yes, I'm in a nether mood right now, bordering on a breakdown. After
    being my Mom's caregiver for over 2 years...now dealing with her death, funeral, and all the comes with it afterwards, I'm ready to snap.

    I was hoping for a 10 day train trip for ham radio deal in
    mid-September, but after storm damage in June (the money saved for it, paid the 10 day hotel bill), and now I have to have a procedure done the week of the event, means the trip wasn't meant to be.

    The insurance company said "since the house had running water, and no other damage, it was still livable". However, with no power or air conditioning, inside temperatures were over 100 degrees...people die in that every day. To them, it's catastrophic, if they have to pay a claim...even if it's the first one in 25 years.

    Sorry to hear about your mom. Condolences to you and your family. And it sounds like you have a lot to deal with otherwise too. :/

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 07:47:00
    On 08-26-19 18:25, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    You should know running won't do you any good around me. :P

    So much for "TAG!! YOU'RE IT!!". :P

    Yeah, won't be for long. :D

    ... Does Micro$oft refer to Bill Gate's penis?

    It's just a big phallacy. <BG>

    Hahahaha


    ... My other processor is a Moulinex.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 08:06:00
    On 08-26-19 18:50, Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Yes, I'm in a nether mood right now, bordering on a breakdown. After being my Mom's caregiver for over 2 years...now dealing with her death, funeral, and all the comes with it afterwards, I'm ready to snap.

    Sounds like you can't take a trick. :( Somehow, take time to look after yourself. You need it.


    ... Let the meek inherit the Earth, I want the stars.
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Thursday, August 29, 2019 16:38:00
    Sorry to hear about your mom. Condolences to you and your family. And it N>sounds like you have a lot to deal with otherwise too. :/

    Thanks for the condolences. The BBS, ham radio, and square dancing,
    have been diversions, but they can only do so much.

    I'm long overdue for a good long cry...like the one I had 7 months
    after my wife died.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Thursday, August 29, 2019 16:38:00
    Tony,

    Yes, I'm in a nether mood right now, bordering on a breakdown. After being my Mom's caregiver for over 2 years...now dealing with her death, funeral, and all the comes with it afterwards, I'm ready to snap.

    Sounds like you can't take a trick. :( Somehow, take time to look after TL>yourself. You need it.

    I feel like the ol' boys on Hee Haw -- if it weren't for bad luck, I'd
    have none.

    I need a good long cry in the worst way...and like it was 7 months
    after I lost my XYL (wife) 12 1/2 years ago...it'll be done alone. :'(

    Somedays, except for doing the weather data on the BBS, I do little
    else with the BBS.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Friday, August 30, 2019 18:22:00
    On 08-29-19 16:38, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I need a good long cry in the worst way...and like it was 7 months
    after I lost my XYL (wife) 12 1/2 years ago...it'll be done alone. :'(

    Be better to deal with that sooner, rather than later. Mental health is very important, and too many men neglect it for stupid, cultural reasons. Yes, I am being blunt here, deliberately.

    Somedays, except for doing the weather data on the BBS, I do little
    else with the BBS.

    I spend my time reading and writing mail. ;)


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Friday, August 30, 2019 09:30:32
    Re: Re: chat
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Thu Aug 29 2019 04:38 pm

    Thanks for the condolences. The BBS, ham radio, and square dancing,
    have been diversions, but they can only do so much.

    I'm long overdue for a good long cry...like the one I had 7 months
    after my wife died.

    Sometimes you just have to do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to TONY LANGDON on Saturday, August 31, 2019 12:06:00
    Tony,

    Be better to deal with that sooner, rather than later. Mental health is ver TL>important, and too many men neglect it for stupid, cultural reasons. Yes, I TL>being blunt here, deliberately.

    As long as I don't have to send you a dollar two ninety-eight for the
    shrink consultation fee. <g,d,r>

    Somedays, except for doing the weather data on the BBS, I do little else with the BBS.

    I spend my time reading and writing mail. ;)

    ... Good: Your uncle leaves you a fortune. Bad: It's counterfeit.

    Like where a mother tells her daughter that she's going to leave her
    all this wealth...then tells her it's in the game on Facebook, and dies immediately after that. <G>

    Or the one where the preacher said he wanted to die between two
    important political figures. So, they got those 2 individuals on each
    side of him, and asked if he wanted anything else. He replied "I'm now
    at peace. I can die like Jesus did...between 2 theives!!". And with
    that, he was gone. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, August 31, 2019 12:08:00
    Thanks for the condolences. The BBS, ham radio, and square dancing,
    have been diversions, but they can only do so much.

    I'm long overdue for a good long cry...like the one I had 7 months
    after my wife died.

    Sometimes you just have to do that.

    Amd, I won't need onions to help me get started.

    Years ago, in the Crock comic strip, the Legion Commander was
    apparently sobbing apologies to all the men for the way he had treated
    them over the years.

    When it came dinner time, the cook told them "No soup for a week.
    Someone stole all of our onions". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Sunday, September 01, 2019 15:29:00
    On 08-31-19 12:06, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    As long as I don't have to send you a dollar two ninety-eight for the shrink consultation fee. <g,d,r>

    You still haven't learnt! No point running from me. :P

    Like where a mother tells her daughter that she's going to leave her
    all this wealth...then tells her it's in the game on Facebook, and dies immediately after that. <G>

    Haha

    Or the one where the preacher said he wanted to die between two important political figures. So, they got those 2 individuals on each
    side of him, and asked if he wanted anything else. He replied "I'm now
    at peace. I can die like Jesus did...between 2 theives!!". And with
    that, he was gone. <G>


    That'd be about right. ;)


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