• Web Console

    From Grease@1:103/705 to All on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 21:44:37
    Hello!
    I have just got back into BBSing. I am an old SysOp from the dial up days and going through the learning curve of internet BBSing. I used to run Synch back in the late 80's and early 90's, before life got in the way. I've got Synch back up and can log on with SyncTERM and haven't started any customization yet.
    I do have a couple of questions:

    1) I'm doing this through Manjaro Linux. I am trying to log onto the BBS through firefox locally, I get some sort of tp-link technologies log in page. When I try through work, it can't resolve the address. Does the Browser login only work with windows?

    2) I am looking at me terminal and I am getting this login:
    9/25 21:24:34 term 0069 SSH connection accepted from 222.186.52.124 port 62458 9/25 21:24:37 term 0069 SSH session establishment failed

    I am getting this from different addresses. Do I have something set up wrong and I am not letting someone in?

    Thanks,
    Grease

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Grease on Thursday, September 26, 2019 02:51:24
    Re: Web Console
    By: Grease to All on Wed Sep 25 2019 09:44 pm

    Hello!
    I have just got back into BBSing. I am an old SysOp from the dial up days and going through the learning curve of internet BBSing. I used to run Synch back in the late 80's and early 90's, before life got in the way. I've got Synch back up and can log on with SyncTERM and haven't started any customization yet. I do have a couple of questions:

    1) I'm doing this through Manjaro Linux. I am trying to log onto the BBS through firefox locally, I get some sort of tp-link technologies log in page.

    That sounds like a router hairpinning issue. What happens when you try to goto http://localhost locally?

    When I try through work, it can't resolve the address.

    Are you sure that's the error? The address resolves from here:

    $ host darkmatt.synchro.net
    darkmatt.synchro.net has address 69.39.53.115

    Now, nmap is reporting that your system isn't responding:

    $ nmap darkmatt.synchro.net

    Starting Nmap 7.40 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-09-26 02:46 PDT
    Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn
    Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.15 seconds

    This page may be helpful for you to determine if your BBS servers/services are actually visible / usable on the public Internet: http://vert.synchro.net/scanmyports.ssjs

    Does the Browser login only work with windows?

    No. There is very little in Synchronet that "only works with Windows".

    2) I am looking at me terminal and I am getting this login:
    9/25 21:24:34 term 0069 SSH connection accepted from 222.186.52.124 port 62458 9/25 21:24:37 term 0069 SSH session establishment failed

    I am getting this from different addresses. Do I have something set up wrong and I am not letting someone in?

    Looks like a port-scanner / drive-by pen-tester. You can ignore them.

    digital man

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  • From Grease@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thursday, September 26, 2019 21:43:08
    Re: Web Console
    By: Digital Man to Grease on Thu Sep 26 2019 02:51 am

    1) I'm doing this through Manjaro Linux. I am trying to log onto the BBS through firefox locally, I get some sort of tp-link technologies log in page.

    That sounds like a router hairpinning issue. What happens when you try to goto http://localhost locally?


    I did the localhost, it works! So it must be something from between me and the outside world.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Grease on Friday, September 27, 2019 09:43:03
    Re: Web Console
    By: Grease to Digital Man on Thu Sep 26 2019 09:43 pm

    Re: Web Console
    By: Digital Man to Grease on Thu Sep 26 2019 02:51 am

    1) I'm doing this through Manjaro Linux. I am trying to log onto the BBS through firefox locally, I get some sort of tp-link technologies log in page.

    That sounds like a router hairpinning issue. What happens when you try to goto http://localhost locally?


    I did the localhost, it works! So it must be something from between me and the outside world.

    But you said you couldn't access the web server from the same computer when using your public hostname. That sounds like your router doesn't know how to route back to your internal computer packets sent to your public IP address. This router feature is known as hairpinning and not all routers support it. It doesn't really have anything to do with anyone else on the Internet being able to access your web server. That would be a separate issue.

    digital man

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  • From Lupine Furmen@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Friday, September 27, 2019 19:50:08
    Re: Web Console
    By: Digital Man to Grease on Fri Sep 27 2019 09:43:03

    But you said you couldn't access the web server from the same computer when using your public hostname. That sounds like your router doesn't know how to route back to your internal computer packets sent to your public IP address. This router feature is known as hairpinning and not all routers support it. It doesn't really have anything to do with anyone else on the Internet being able to access your web server. That would be a separate issue.

    Could also be his ISP not allowing it. I used to be with Comcast, and they didn't allow hairpinning. Now have Google Fiber and there is no problem what-so-ever. :)


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Lupine Furmen on Friday, September 27, 2019 23:25:23
    Re: Web Console
    By: Lupine Furmen to Digital Man on Fri Sep 27 2019 07:50 pm

    Re: Web Console
    By: Digital Man to Grease on Fri Sep 27 2019 09:43:03

    But you said you couldn't access the web server from the same computer when using your public hostname. That sounds like your router doesn't know how to route back to your internal computer packets sent to your public IP address. This router feature is known as hairpinning and not all routers support it. It doesn't really have anything to do with anyone else on the Internet being able to access your web server. That would be a separate issue.

    Could also be his ISP not allowing it. I used to be with Comcast, and they didn't allow hairpinning. Now have Google Fiber and there is no problem what-so-ever. :)

    That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps what you mean is the router supplied by the ISP didn't support hairpinning. A hairpinned packet never leaves your premises.

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Digital Man on Saturday, September 28, 2019 19:55:00
    On 09-27-19 23:25, Digital Man wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-

    That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps what you mean is the router
    supplied by the ISP didn't support hairpinning. A hairpinned packet
    never leaves your premises.

    You beat me to it. :)


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  • From Lupine Furmen@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 02, 2019 00:29:16
    Re: Web Console
    By: Digital Man to Lupine Furmen on Fri Sep 27 2019 23:25:23

    That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps what you mean is the router supplied by the ISP didn't support hairpinning. A hairpinned packet never leaves your premises.

    That is what I was told that it's called. I was trying to test my web server by using my domain name and I was not able to connect back to the same IP I was trying to connect FROM.


    -Dallas Vinson
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    SSH: loybbs.net:23222
    Before the Web - telnet: loybbs.net:23232
    Legends of Yesteryear - telnet: loybbs.net:23322

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Lupine Furmen on Wednesday, October 02, 2019 20:25:57
    Re: Web Console
    By: Lupine Furmen to Digital Man on Wed Oct 02 2019 12:29 am

    Re: Web Console
    By: Digital Man to Lupine Furmen on Fri Sep 27 2019 23:25:23

    That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps what you mean is the router supplied by the ISP didn't support hairpinning. A hairpinned packet never leaves your premises.

    That is what I was told that it's called. I was trying to test my web server by using my domain name and I was not able to connect back to the same IP I was trying to connect FROM.

    Right, that is called hairpinning. But it has nothing to do with your ISP.

    digital man

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