• Message to all

    From Joe Schweier@1:342/200 to ALl on Wednesday, July 08, 2020 09:27:18
    If I want to write a message to "ALL"... what do I have to do in WINS to send a message to all the users...


    Thanx
    Joe

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  • From IRONMAN@1:123/1970 to Joe Schweier on Wednesday, July 08, 2020 13:23:28
    In the TO: field send to: All

    Exmple:

    TO: All
    Subject: Test Message


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  • From Joe Schweier@1:342/200 to IRONMAN on Wednesday, July 08, 2020 15:10:48
    In the TO: field send to: All

    Exmple:

    TO: All
    Subject: Test Message

    All just leaves a message posted to ALL..... I want to carbon copy the same message to every user.

    Thanx anyway...

    Joe

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Joe Schweier on Monday, July 13, 2020 23:54:00
    >If I want to write a message to "ALL"... what do I have to do in WINS to sen
    >message to all the users...


    "All" usually sends the message to "All."
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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to Robert Wolfe on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 09:04:52
    On 13 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

    >If I want to write a message to "ALL"... what do I have to do in WINS t
    >message to all the users...


    "All" usually sends the message to "All."

    Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over 2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3 or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much money over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spend an
    other dime so that I can cc a message to all my users.

    Anyway, Thanx

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  • From RON PETERS@1:123/140 to IB JOE on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 19:35:10
    Joe

    I read the Santronics Lists I did see your message.

    As you were told you can use a Distribution Group to send a private
    message to all users you do not need wcReports.

    Regards

    Ron
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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to RON PETERS on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 19:28:19
    On 15 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

    Joe

    I read the Santronics Lists I did see your message.

    As you were told you can use a Distribution Group to send a private message to all users you do not need wcReports.


    I thought Hector added the feature a while back.... and I asked and I've had
    no response...
    Anyway, good enough!!

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ib Joe on Friday, July 17, 2020 11:19:26
    "All" usually sends the message to "All."

    Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like
    write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to
    all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a
    message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I
    would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang
    Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over
    2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3
    or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spe other dime so
    that I can cc a message to all my users.

    So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user on your system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module to me. But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this feature built in.


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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to Robert Wolfe on Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:49:12
    On 17 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

    "All" usually sends the message to "All."

    Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like
    write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to
    all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a
    message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over
    2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3
    or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spe other dime so
    that I can cc a message to all my users.

    So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user on your system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module to me. But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this feature built in.

    I know most, if not all, other packages have that built into the package.
    Most of these packages are free, and even under development as well. I just paid a few hundred dollars to get the latest version, up to speed on the
    AUP... whatever...
    I am a hobbiest. I really don't care about all the extended features some people may want to use.... I have always leaned towards the terminal side. I may just keep WINServer as a game server, I have a load of wcx games registered.... Not sure exactly what do do... we'll see ... Mystic has everything I want, and more, but I talked myself out of that and paid money Santronics...

    fTelnet kicking my ass like it's 2020 for the rest of my life... learning some Linux along the way... installed apache web server on my pi to see if I'd get the same error with a different web server.... and YES I did... piss me off.

    More to come....:)

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    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From RON PETERS@1:123/140 to IB JOE on Thursday, July 16, 2020 21:54:54
    Hello Joe

    Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ib Joe on Friday, July 17, 2020 21:38:41
    So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user
    system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module
    But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this fea
    built in.

    I know most, if not all, other packages have that built into the
    package. Most of these packages are free, and even under development
    as well. I just paid a few hundred dollars to get the latest
    version, up to speed on the AUP... whatever...
    I am a hobbiest. I really don't care about all the extended
    features some people may want to use.... I have always leaned
    towards the terminal side. I may just keep WINServer as a game
    server, I have a load of wcx games registered.... Not sure exactly
    what do do... we'll see ... Mystic has everything I want, and more,
    but I talked myself out of that and paid money Santronics...

    Yeah, I understand completely. I lean more toward the ANSI side of the BBS myself, which is why I put totally no work into the HTML side of my WINServer system.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ron Peters on Friday, July 17, 2020 21:41:16
    As you were told you can use a Distribution Group to send a private
    message to all users you do not need wcReports.

    So is this a feature built into WINServer itself (as I do not recall seeing such a feature built in, unless I overlooked it because I do not use that feature) or are you referring to wcListServe? If the latter, that's an additional package that one has to pay for.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ron Peters on Friday, July 17, 2020 21:42:02
    Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.

    Where?


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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to RON PETERS on Thursday, July 16, 2020 22:56:28
    On 16 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

    Hello Joe

    Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.

    Interesting.... and you do it how??

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
    -= JoesBBS.Com =-

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  • From RON PETERS@1:123/140 to IB JOE on Friday, July 17, 2020 08:41:04
    Hi Joe

    This is a cut and paste of the reply sent to you in the Santronics List:

    It would probably be best to follow it up there should you need to do
    so.

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    Messages to ALL are not permitted in Conference: #0 via the
    ANSI/Terminal interface.

    Conference 0 is intended for Private EMail and To "ALL" Opens up the
    risks of SPAM and Private Messages accidentally being sent to ALL.

    The Capitalized "ALL" can be used in other Conferences as a valid Public
    "TO ALL" message Address.

    If you have a small user base you can create a Group Distribution List
    and use it in association with Any Conference.

    For Example:

    A plain text file Group List:

    \wcat\disp\group1.lst

    comprising a name on each line

    Bob Brown
    Jane Doe
    John Smith

    Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1

    Which would send a CC Copy to users in the Distribution List Group 1

    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to RON PETERS on Friday, July 17, 2020 10:27:05
    On 17 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

    Hi Joe

    This is a cut and paste of the reply sent to you in the Santronics List:

    It would probably be best to follow it up there should you need to do
    so.

    ---- Cut from SSI ----

    Messages to ALL are not permitted in Conference: #0 via the
    ANSI/Terminal interface.

    Conference 0 is intended for Private EMail and To "ALL" Opens up the
    risks of SPAM and Private Messages accidentally being sent to ALL.

    The Capitalized "ALL" can be used in other Conferences as a valid Public "TO ALL" message Address.

    If you have a small user base you can create a Group Distribution List
    and use it in association with Any Conference.

    For Example:

    A plain text file Group List:

    \wcat\disp\group1.lst

    comprising a name on each line

    Bob Brown
    Jane Doe
    John Smith

    Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1

    Which would send a CC Copy to users in the Distribution List Group 1

    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.


    Tried it again... and a message to ALL in a local area, not area 0, is
    nothing more than a message addressed to ALL.

    BBS software that hasn't been worked on since the early 90's had that feature...

    I know that the terminal side of WINServer is a little lite on features,
    unless you knoqw how to program in wcBasic, se're stuck. WINServer should
    have a message to "ALL" built into it and as well an ability to let the users have a signature file... on the terminal side.

    I got my ass kicked on 2 projects... adding the ssl certificates to the web server... not hard if you knew what to do... and as well I had issues with fTelnet

    Anyway, that's behind me...

    :)

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    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to Robert Wolfe on Saturday, July 18, 2020 08:40:46
    On 17 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

    "All" usually sends the message to "All."

    Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like
    write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to
    all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a
    message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over
    2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3
    or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spe other dime so
    that I can cc a message to all my users.

    So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user on your system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module to me. But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this feature built in.



    Yes

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ib Joe on Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:26:29
    On 16 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

    Hello Joe

    Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.

    Interesting.... and you do it how??

    This is what I would like to know.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ron Peters on Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:28:56
    Hi Joe

    This is a cut and paste of the reply sent to you in the Santronics
    List:
    It would probably be best to follow it up there should you need to do
    so.


    [...]

    A plain text file Group List:

    \wcat\disp\group1.lst

    comprising a name on each line

    Bob Brown
    Jane Doe
    John Smith

    Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1


    [...]

    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to
    completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

    This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up with some wcCODE to help out this this process :)


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  • From ib joe@1:342/201 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 05:46:35
    On 19 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...
    [...]

    A plain text file Group List:

    \wcat\disp\group1.lst

    comprising a name on each line

    Bob Brown
    Jane Doe
    John Smith

    Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1


    [...]

    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to
    completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

    This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up with some wcCODE to help out this this process :)


    Keep me posted...

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
    -= JoesBBS.Com =-

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ib Joe on Friday, July 24, 2020 18:36:01
    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

    This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up w
    wcCODE to help out this this process :)


    Keep me posted...

    I saved the original message Hector sent. I have not had a chance to start on anything yet as real life has been keeping me quite busy of late :) But, will probably try and get something started this weekend if at all possible.


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  • From Ib Joe@1:342/201 to Robert Wolfe on Thursday, July 23, 2020 21:10:20
    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

    This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up w wcCODE to help out this this process :)


    Keep me posted...

    I saved the original message Hector sent. I have not had a chance to start on
    anything yet as real life has been keeping me quite busy of late :) But, will
    probably try and get something started this weekend if at all possible.


    It would be good to see this. I finally fixed my issue with the message
    tag going into the from field... piss me off... the hours and hours that
    went into that.

    I understand how powerful the WINServer package is... but the terminal
    side is stuck in the 90's ... most if not all BBS packages have the
    SysOp message to all.... Signature files as well... Anyway, it is just
    a hobby

    You have a program that I would like to get a copy of... and that's the program that asks you a math question as you login.. Did you write that
    or is it something you found??

    Thanx

    Joe



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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ib Joe on Sunday, July 26, 2020 00:00:00

    It would be good to see this. I finally fixed my issue with the
    message tag going into the from field... piss me off... the hours
    and hours that went into that.


    I can understand that all too, too well.

    I understand how powerful the WINServer package is... but the
    terminal side is stuck in the 90's ... most if not all BBS packages
    have the SysOp message to all.... Signature files as well...
    Anyway, it is just a hobby

    Actually, I made a modification to the line editor on my WINS system that will let you add (optionally) taglines to the end of messages, the same modification could be "modified" to add signature files as well easily enough. However, this was done modifying the EDITOR.WCC file which is part of the optional wcBASIC Plus Pack.


    You have a program that I would like to get a copy of... and that's
    the program that asks you a math question as you login.. Did you
    write that or is it something you found??


    Actually, I wrote the modification myself based on an idea presented by Matt Munson on Inland Utopia BBS. Unfortunately, like the previously mentioned editor modification, it, too, requires the wcBASIC Plus Pack in order for the modification to be placed where it is.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ib Joe on Friday, August 14, 2020 16:17:10
    wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

    This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up w wcCODE to help out this this process :)


    Keep me posted...

    I saved the original message Hector sent. I have not had a chance to sta
    on
    anything yet as real life has been keeping me quite busy of late :) But,
    will
    probably try and get something started this weekend if at all possible.


    It would be good to see this. I finally fixed my issue with the message tag going into the from field... piss me off... the hours and hours that went into that.

    I understand how powerful the WINServer package is... but the terminal
    side is stuck in the 90's ... most if not all BBS packages have the
    SysOp message to all.... Signature files as well... Anyway, it is just
    a hobby

    You have a program that I would like to get a copy of... and that's the program that asks you a math question as you login.. Did you write that
    or is it something you found??

    Thanx

    Joe



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    Yeah, planning on adding optional signature file usage on my bbs in the message areas soon.

    ... I visited cyberspace and all I got was this lousy tagline
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Robert Wolfe on Saturday, August 15, 2020 08:26:27
    Joe



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    Yeah, planning on adding optional signature file usage on my bbs in the message areas soon.

    Thanx... I went the way of Mystic BBS though.... I have run WC5 for years.... Ths time around I have come to the oppinion that the terminal side of WINS is stuck in the 80s and 90s. I spent a couple hundred dollars to blow life back into the BBS... paid for AUP and had install disks mailed to me.

    And I went with the BBS program that I talked myself out of when I sent Santronics my 200 bucks.

    I'll set my WINServer up as some kind of door server because of all the games
    I have registered for it.

    :)

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    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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